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Post by The Sandmen on Aug 7, 2016 14:22:31 GMT -5
The Sandmen release: Justin Gaethje (0-2)
The Sandmen claim: Eddie Alvarez (10-16)
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Aug 8, 2016 0:49:24 GMT -5
naww bro i claimed him first just forgot to click post brah f u he mine now
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Post by The Rocketmen on Aug 8, 2016 7:41:30 GMT -5
not sure that's how it works, but dammit I support it! lol
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Aug 27, 2016 22:22:49 GMT -5
The Sandmen release: Justin Gaethje (0-2) The Sandmen claim: Eddie Alvarez (10-16) Gathje actually has to have one more fight before you can outright release him actually... if this is a serious Add/Drop that is.
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Post by The Rocketmen on Aug 27, 2016 22:53:04 GMT -5
The Sandmen release: Justin Gaethje (0-2) The Sandmen claim: Eddie Alvarez (10-16) Gathje actually has to have one more fight before you can outright release him actually... if this is a serious Add/Drop that is. That would have been relevant 19 days ago.
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Post by The Sandmen on Aug 27, 2016 23:02:34 GMT -5
Yeah, I was waiting for xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club to hop on that one, to be honest, but then I remembered this: Complete FAQ Anything else I should know?I guess just that this site operates very much on a "Spirit of the Law" over "Letter of the Law" system. In a nutshell, that means that the INTENT of a rule outweighs any oversights or omissions in the WORDING of the rule. (i.e. If a rule says "You can't upgrade your guy past 85", that does not mean you can upgrade your women to 100 just because they were not specifically included in the literal wording of the rule.) For the most part, I try to cover all loopholes, but sometimes unforeseen stuff comes up. In those cases, we look at WHY a rule exists, and remain consistent with the WHY more than the HOW of its wording. This avoids silly loopholes that can ruin the site, and also maintains the fun and integrity of the game as a whole for everyone. The spirit of this rule when it came in was to stop people (Mike, at the time, haha) from making me create guys, have one fight, then release them for a new guy I had to create. It was strictly a "I'm not creating 100 guys a season, it's a waste of my time" rule. In this case, it was my own fighter, created by me, for me, and having him in the league and having to book him made me unhappy. So I swapped him, no one was affected other than me, and no one cared (for 19 days ).
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Aug 28, 2016 19:43:52 GMT -5
Gathje actually has to have one more fight before you can outright release him actually... if this is a serious Add/Drop that is. That would have been relevant 19 days ago. 19 mins or 19 days... it doesn't matter. "Rules are rules", as Sandman continually says all the time unless a rule is preventing him from doing something he wants to do. I had this very conversation with him the first week I was "staff" and he wanted to drop a male for a female or something that wasn't allowed by the rules... His words: "Oh, I can just change that so I can do it... That's not a problem." Ummm... Yah, that's big fat problem when the site admin refuses to adhere to the rules set out on the site... makes you wonder what the hell else he's doing that's shady as fuck! lol Yeah, I was waiting for xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club to hop on that one, to be honest, but then I remembered this: Complete FAQ Anything else I should know?I guess just that this site operates very much on a "Spirit of the Law" over "Letter of the Law" system. In a nutshell, that means that the INTENT of a rule outweighs any oversights or omissions in the WORDING of the rule. (i.e. If a rule says "You can't upgrade your guy past 85", that does not mean you can upgrade your women to 100 just because they were not specifically included in the literal wording of the rule.) For the most part, I try to cover all loopholes, but sometimes unforeseen stuff comes up. In those cases, we look at WHY a rule exists, and remain consistent with the WHY more than the HOW of its wording. This avoids silly loopholes that can ruin the site, and also maintains the fun and integrity of the game as a whole for everyone. The spirit of this rule when it came in was to stop people (Mike, at the time, haha) from making me create guys, have one fight, then release them for a new guy I had to create. It was strictly a "I'm not creating 100 guys a season, it's a waste of my time" rule. In this case, it was my own fighter, created by me, for me, and having him in the league and having to book him made me unhappy. So I swapped him, no one was affected other than me, and no one cared (for 19 days ). You're god damn right I was going to jump on this one. It doesn't matter if it was 19 days later, you know how busy I've been with work and this was the first I saw of it. And as I stated above, we had this conversation before. This is shady shit man, and abuse of your power on this site. Follow your own damn rules as you expect us to do. Pretty simple equation. You can't just change a rule because it's preventing you from doing something... That's exactly what the rule is there to do, it doesn't matter what the "spirit" behind it is. What kind of crap is that? How can you expect anyone to follow any rules on this site if you can't yourself? But just turn around and change it to suit your own selfish purposes. Talk about a double standard, Batman.
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Post by The Sandmen on Aug 29, 2016 1:45:07 GMT -5
You have to look at rules this way - "why is the rule here, and who does it affect?" This particular rule was put in place because it affected me. And only me. I put a rule in because I was tired of creating people on someone's whim. Creating that person wasted my time. That was 100% of the reason the rule was made. I would rather be simming then creating 20 people a season to just fight one fight. Here, again, literally no one was affected, so the move was made.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Aug 29, 2016 10:39:15 GMT -5
You have to look at rules this way - "why is the rule here, and who does it affect?" This particular rule was put in place because it affected me. And only me. I put a rule in because I was tired of creating people on someone's whim. Creating that person wasted my time. That was 100% of the reason the rule was made. I would rather be simming then creating 20 people a season to just fight one fight. Here, again, literally no one was affected, so the move was made. All of that is irrelevant Justin. It doesn't matter who a rule is "supposed to affect", you can't just arbitrarily a change rule because it doesn't suit YOU anymore for selfish reasons like this. That's bad administration, especially you're trying to enforce other sanctions and "rules" you start putting into play mid-season when the protocol has always been that new rules or changes are implemented in the off-season, but you don't even acknowledge that aspect of it anymore either... "Nope. I'm doing it now." which is BS, and really isn't fair to anyone else in the league when you're bending, breaking and changing the rules of the site on a whim to suit yourself all the time instead of following your own guidelines/protocol you set out in the first place. It's ridiculous man... and you know it.
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Post by The Sandmen on Aug 29, 2016 11:15:03 GMT -5
All of that is irrelevant Justin. It doesn't matter who a rule is "supposed to affect", you can't just arbitrarily a change rule because it doesn't suit YOU anymore for selfish reasons like this. That's bad administration, Wrong. It's how the actual, legal law in the real world works. It's what stops 3rd-time offenders from going to jail for life for stealing a loaf of bread to feed their starving families. "Letter of the law vs. Spirit of the law". Google it.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Aug 30, 2016 11:13:55 GMT -5
All of that is irrelevant Justin. It doesn't matter who a rule is "supposed to affect", you can't just arbitrarily a change rule because it doesn't suit YOU anymore for selfish reasons like this. That's bad administration, Wrong. It's how the actual, legal law in the real world works. It's what stops 3rd-time offenders from going to jail for life for stealing a loaf of bread to feed their starving families. "Letter of the law vs. Spirit of the law". Google it. No, Justin, you're wrong, and so full of shit, I can smell you from here man... Then you wonder why it's even possible that I don't trust you and that you're on the up'n'up on everything around here. It's shit like this that's a prime example man. You're shady as fuck when you pull shit like this and there's no telling what else that you're being shady about either. The sky's the limit when you'll be so selfish as to bend or break a site rule for yourself and not extend that to anyone else on the site. Who's actually capped? Who's not? Why do certain rules only really target, effectively, 2 specific members of the site? It's all part and parcel... How do you live with yourself being such a piece of living shit man? It's astounding.
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Post by The Rocketmen on Aug 30, 2016 11:26:22 GMT -5
I heard he killed JFK.
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Post by The Mighty Ducks on Aug 30, 2016 11:30:02 GMT -5
I heard he was the human bomb on the plan on 9/11
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Post by The Sandmen on Aug 30, 2016 15:11:09 GMT -5
...I am guessing he didn't google "Spirit of the law". Meh well. You can lead a fella to information, but you can't make him read it or understand it for him. Basic legal principle that has been imperative and around for centuries is apparently garbage when Justin applies it to a sim site, lol.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Aug 31, 2016 11:03:57 GMT -5
...I am guessing he didn't google "Spirit of the law". Meh well. You can lead a fella to information, but you can't make him read it or understand it for him. Basic legal principle that has been imperative and around for centuries is apparently garbage when Justin applies it to a sim site, lol. No, it's garbage because 1) this isn't the legal system AND 2) you only ever use it to your own advantage, when you see fit to do so. What's the point of having, or even following, ANY of your frickin' rules, if you don't even do it yourself man? You just change it for yourself but no one else can ever do that. That's abuse of your administrative power, any way you slice it... I mean, I found the "spirit" behind your BS new FiD numbers to be bias, and specifically targeted towards 2 members of the site that you have issues with on a regular basis. By your assessment here, I can choose to ignore it and not adhere to it, especially now with the new team that's come in, spreading out the rosters around even further, and now makes that new FiD system irrelevant, because what it's trying to prevent something shouldn't exist anymore with the new numbers in the league, not that it ever really did, since you even said yourself that the average differential was 1 fighter and was why you felt you had to do something about it when you really didn't.
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