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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Jan 12, 2018 15:32:39 GMT -5
I'd say you're 100% incorrect about that assumption. When I read the fight, and noticed the ending, the first thing I thought was bullshit, rather than who the fuck won. Even ask Justin. I was voicing with him when I read it. I don't care who's fighter it is. When I went back and looked at the ten fights that ended in bullshit, one of them benefited one of my fighters and I commented that there should be a rematch for that fight. I honestly don't think I'm wrong here. You may not care about the fighters yourself, but I guaran-damn-tee you, if roles were reversed, and I complained about Rory losing on a call like that, I'd be told: "Too bad. Upgrade your fighters better.". It's happened before... and judging by Justin bringing up the Carano/D'Alelio thing, which was completely different than this btw, I know I'm right to not take a rematch. I've lost this way too... It sux. But it's still what happened. I don't owe anyone anything here. Well I would back you up. I'd say they owe you a rematch.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jan 12, 2018 15:57:16 GMT -5
I honestly don't think I'm wrong here. You may not care about the fighters yourself, but I guaran-damn-tee you, if roles were reversed, and I complained about Rory losing on a call like that, I'd be told: "Too bad. Upgrade your fighters better.". It's happened before... and judging by Justin bringing up the Carano/D'Alelio thing, which was completely different than this btw, I know I'm right to not take a rematch. I've lost this way too... It sux. But it's still what happened. I don't owe anyone anything here. Well I would back you up. I'd say they owe you a rematch. That's great... And I do thank you for that. But at the end of the day, I've still gotta look out for myself too, cuz almost no one else will. It sux that this was against Fitchy too cuz I'm a bit torn, but, at the same time, Phoenix FC is in a position to do some damage again, GP-wise as well as in title tournaments. Why potentially sacrifice a win when I don't have to? Makes no sense.
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Jan 12, 2018 17:14:22 GMT -5
Idk... I feel like irl mma that stoppage would be really controversial and a rematch would have happened.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jan 12, 2018 17:21:41 GMT -5
Idk... I feel like irl mma that stoppage would be really controversial and a rematch would have happened. Not disputing that in the slightest. Just saying wins are wins. We could rehash the whole IRL Rousey over D'Alelio BS too... Doesn't change the fact Sarah lost cuz of a stupid ref and a bad technical rule.
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Post by The Sandmen on Jan 12, 2018 18:38:13 GMT -5
Idk... I feel like irl mma that stoppage would be really controversial and a rematch would have happened. Not disputing that in the slightest. Just saying wins are wins. We could rehash the whole IRL Rousey over D'Alelio BS too... Doesn't change the fact Sarah lost cuz of a stupid ref and a bad technical rule. We could rehash that, and just like several years ago, you would still be wrong in your conclusion. Sarah D'Alelio SAID he "went 'ahhhh"". That is a verbal submission. By the rules of MMA, that is a submission, which she ADMITTED TO, and she lost. Plain. Simple. Done. Again.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jan 12, 2018 19:19:33 GMT -5
Not disputing that in the slightest. Just saying wins are wins. We could rehash the whole IRL Rousey over D'Alelio BS too... Doesn't change the fact Sarah lost cuz of a stupid ref and a bad technical rule. We could rehash that, and just like several years ago, you would still be wrong in your conclusion. Sarah D'Alelio SAID he "went 'ahhhh"". That is a verbal submission. By the rules of MMA, that is a submission, which she ADMITTED TO, and she lost. Plain. Simple. Done. Again. Again. Bad rule. Bad ref. Ahh or grunting shouldn't be a verbal submission. But thanks for helping my point here. 👍
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Post by The Sandmen on Jan 12, 2018 20:16:22 GMT -5
It's been in the rules of unified MMA since the dawn of unified MMA. Screaming stops a fight. It is a verbal submission. Just because you do not understand the rules does not make the ref bad.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jan 12, 2018 20:28:32 GMT -5
It's been in the rules of unified MMA since the dawn of unified MMA. Screaming stops a fight. It is a verbal submission. Just because you do not understand the rules does not make the ref bad. 1) You know Muzagatti sux ass. 2) You know there's a difference Ahh & AAHHHH. And 3) Rousey telling the idiot ref 'I got it' doesn't help either; against the rules too. But again, based on your assessment here, you helped. So thanks... You're still a dick.
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Jan 12, 2018 21:51:06 GMT -5
Doesn't that make the ref better if he knows to stop the fight by a lesser known rule?
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jan 13, 2018 3:47:27 GMT -5
Doesn't that make the ref better if he knows to stop the fight by a lesser known rule? Now you're aruing against your own argument. lol
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Jan 13, 2018 9:07:34 GMT -5
Doesn't that make the ref better if he knows to stop the fight by a lesser known rule? Now you're aruing against your own argument. lol I am not. My argument is a non tap shouldn't end a fight at the five minute mark. A fighter going "ahhh" in the middle of the round is different.
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Post by The Rocketmen on Jan 13, 2018 9:53:14 GMT -5
I see all sides, and my ruling is...
ah, split decision.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jan 13, 2018 15:43:24 GMT -5
Now you're aruing against your own argument. lol I am not. My argument is a non tap shouldn't end a fight at the five minute mark. A fighter going "ahhh" in the middle of the round is different. No it's not. Cuz how do we know Fitchy didn't say ahh at the end either? It's a fucking computer program. lol
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Post by The Sandmen on Jan 13, 2018 17:07:47 GMT -5
We know because it did not say he did. But it did specifically say the Fitch did NOT tap, and the time definitely did expire. Furthermore, the finish was not ruled a technical submission, as it would have been if it was stopped from a scream.
#BasicMMA101
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Jan 13, 2018 17:28:28 GMT -5
We know because it did not say he did. But it did specifically say the Fitch did NOT tap, and the time definitely did expire. Furthermore, the finish was not ruled a technical submission, as it would have been if it was stopped from a scream. #BasicMMA101 Will the matchmaker of ManMMA be giving Fitch a rematch?
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