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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Sept 13, 2019 16:28:01 GMT -5
Maybe... But how many times have they actually fought in between too? I also really don't understand what this sick pleasure is that you guys seem to get out of being jerks to me like this is. Just cuz I don't agree with you? Why do you even give a shit what I think? In between both Lesnar's wins, Cro Cop won 4 times, and why is pointing out facts being jerks to you? Quit being so butthurt by everything. We all give each other shit all the time. Roll with it, and you'll have more fun here. 4 times in 10 seasons is nothing, especially when it's an one extreme dynamic vs. another. Like I said, once I see him vs. a JDS, Velazquez or that ilk, maybe I'll see some vast improvements over what I had him at before. But, thus far, since being back, all I've noticed, that's a somewhat significant improvement, is his dodging and opponents aren't hitting him as effectively. Which is great... I never said it wasn't. I'm glad Brock's doing well again. Yet, because I've said that I don't see a big difference in him at all since I had him, I get chastised and ridiculed for it, to the point that Byron somehow thought I was taking some sort of a shot at him when this came up before, and I wasn't. That's what I have a problem with... Not with anyone showing any sort of facts they believe they have to back up their points. It's in how it's presented, and this is twice now that it's been Rocketmen trying to stir shit up here. It's just needless... Especially after mentioning what my own personal criteria would be for seeing a vast improvement in Brock after having him on my team for so long. There's nothing wrong with that, nor is there anything wrong with you guys seeing some vast improvement in him either. I don't give a shit who's right or wrong, but that's what the discussions turn into instead of just talking about the fighters or the fights.
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Sept 13, 2019 16:32:25 GMT -5
In between both Lesnar's wins, Cro Cop won 4 times, and why is pointing out facts being jerks to you? Quit being so butthurt by everything. We all give each other shit all the time. Roll with it, and you'll have more fun here. Like I said, once I see him vs. a JDS, Velazquez or that ilk, maybe I'll see some vast improvements over what I had him at before. But, thus far, since being back, all I've noticed, that's a somewhat significant improvement, is his dodging and opponents aren't hitting him as effectively. Shows how much attention you're paying. He beat JDS last card, and the most recent GP .. it's just Cain he can't beat hehe
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Post by The Rocketmen on Sept 13, 2019 16:37:00 GMT -5
That's what I have a problem with... Not with anyone showing any sort of facts they believe they have to back up their points. It's in how it's presented, and this is twice now that it's been Rocketmen trying to stir shit up here. haha I stirred shit up? How? You said Brock beat him recently, I literally pointed out that "recently" was a literal 5 real life years ago. That's not stirring anything up. That's you saying "he beat him recently" me going "ok" looking at fight history and going "it happened 5 years ago". No malice. No shit disturbing. It's like if you said "Doug Gilmour was traded to the Leafs recently" and I say "it happened in 2003" and you saying "oh Mike's stirring shit up!" Ricockulous.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Sept 13, 2019 16:48:30 GMT -5
Like I said, once I see him vs. a JDS, Velazquez or that ilk, maybe I'll see some vast improvements over what I had him at before. But, thus far, since being back, all I've noticed, that's a somewhat significant improvement, is his dodging and opponents aren't hitting him as effectively. Shows how much attention you're paying. He beat JDS last card, and the most recent GP .. it's just Cain he can't beat hehe That's true too... I had forgotten about that already. lol That was interesting. 👍 And wouldn't be so sure about him not being able to beat Cain. Some of the best fights in ManMMA have been between those two IMO; some of my favorites anyways... ☺ The other thing is that I haven't exactly looked to see what changes Byron has made to him either. What I do know for certain is that I was having a helluva time trying to find the attributes to pull out of him to add any tweaks for him.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Sept 13, 2019 17:01:40 GMT -5
haha I stirred shit up? How? You said Brock beat him recently, I literally pointed out that "recently" was a literal 5 real life years ago. No... Have a look back man. No where once did I say he beat Cro Cop recently. I don't know where you pulled that out of... So yes, as I said, you're just stirring shit up for the sake of it and I don't appreciate it. I never did. Simple as that.
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Post by The Rocketmen on Sept 13, 2019 17:13:13 GMT -5
haha I stirred shit up? How? You said Brock beat him recently, I literally pointed out that "recently" was a literal 5 real life years ago. No... Have a look back man. No where once did I say he beat Cro Cop recently. I don't know where you pulled that out of... So yes, as I said, you're just stirring shit up for the sake of it and I don't appreciate it. I never did. Simple as that. K, but...does it really count if the last time that happened was in 2015? Wasn't that long ago. lol I was only gone for a few months not for 4 years. 😜 Plus, as you alluded to, Brock shut down Mirko's kicks, which he's done to him before. It wasn't that long ago. It was literally 5 years ago. The site is like closing in on 8 years old? So it's literally more than half the age of the site ago.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Sept 13, 2019 17:29:11 GMT -5
Wasn't that long ago. lol I was only gone for a few months not for 4 years. 😜 Plus, as you alluded to, Brock shut down Mirko's kicks, which he's done to him before. That really wasn't that long ago... And honestly, all you had to say was "Well actually, this was the last time Brock beat Cro Cop"; Bam.. Done. Instead of the smug response of: "I'll just leave this here". That is actually shit disturbing man, and just accentuates my point of how these discussions turn from actual discussions into "I'm right... No, I'm right." BS, and just become pissing matches instead of being fun. I know you're fully capable of disagreeing with me without being disrespectful. I just don't understand why you don't or won't. This should be a fresh start for all of us, you know. At least that's how I'm trying to view it until I see stuff like that, then I'm not so sure... If you know what I mean.
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Post by The Rocketmen on Sept 13, 2019 17:53:10 GMT -5
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Post by The Sandmen on Sept 13, 2019 18:03:48 GMT -5
That is actually shit disturbing man, and just accentuates my point of how these discussions turn from actual discussions into "I'm right... No, I'm right." BS, and just become pissing matches instead of being fun. Someone telling you you have made a mistake/oversight is not someone telling you they are right. There was no argument here - there were no 2 sides. You made a statement, it was corrected with facts. That is literally it. No one claiming to be "right". Just people letting you know the timeline of what you were saying was "not that long ago" was, factually, 5 years ago. After that point, some people expressed their opinion that 5 years ago is actually a long time ago.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Sept 13, 2019 18:51:18 GMT -5
That is actually shit disturbing man, and just accentuates my point of how these discussions turn from actual discussions into "I'm right... No, I'm right." BS, and just become pissing matches instead of being fun. Someone telling you you have made a mistake/oversight is not someone telling you they are right. There was no argument here - there were no 2 sides. You made a statement, it was corrected with facts. That is literally it. No one claiming to be "right". Just people letting you know the timeline of what you were saying was "not that long ago" was, factually, 5 years ago. After that point, some people expressed their opinion that 5 years ago is actually a long time ago. And then you chime in to keep dogpiling on me after all I did was explain where I was coming from, as if what you're saying makes any difference whatsoever to anything being said here. More disrespect... Why? 5 years is a long time in real life... Sure. However, when they've only fought 3-4 times in that stretch, that's not really that long at all in terms of being strictly between these two particular fighters. It's not like these guys were fighting each other exclusively for 5 years, and Brock's lost 50 fights to Cro Cop in that span, yet all your arguments make it sound like that's the case. They've fought others... Both winning and losing. So what if I don't see much of a difference in him as you claim to? In the grand scheme of things, what difference does it make that people have to go out of their way, just to try and make others look foolish when we're all supposed to be here having fun, not to be assholes to each other? I honestly don't see much of a difference yet and that's based out of my own experience with the fighter. That's it. No amount of any of you trying to convince me otherwise with this stat or that stat, is going to change my mind until I do see it myself. I don't even know why you guys bother, other than to be shit disturbers. lol It does get tedious from my side too. So let's just agree to disagree, and move on.
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Sept 13, 2019 19:45:28 GMT -5
Someone telling you you have made a mistake/oversight is not someone telling you they are right. There was no argument here - there were no 2 sides. You made a statement, it was corrected with facts. That is literally it. No one claiming to be "right". Just people letting you know the timeline of what you were saying was "not that long ago" was, factually, 5 years ago. After that point, some people expressed their opinion that 5 years ago is actually a long time ago. And then you chime in to keep dogpiling on me after all I did was explain where I was coming from, as if what you're saying makes any difference whatsoever to anything being said here. More disrespect... Why? 5 years is a long time in real life... Sure. However, when they've only fought 3-4 times in that stretch, that's not really that long at all in terms of being strictly between these two particular fighters. It's not like these guys were fighting each other exclusively for 5 years, and Brock's lost 50 fights to Cro Cop in that span, yet all your arguments make it sound like that's the case. They've fought others... Both winning and losing. So what if I don't see much of a difference in him as you claim to? In the grand scheme of things, what difference does it make that people have to go out of their way, just to try and make others look foolish when we're all supposed to be here having fun, not to be assholes to each other? I honestly don't see much of a difference yet and that's based out of my own experience with the fighter. That's it. No amount of any of you trying to convince me otherwise with this stat or that stat, is going to change my mind until I do see it myself. I don't even know why you guys bother, other than to be shit disturbers. lol It does get tedious from my side too. So let's just agree to disagree, and move on. Wtf dude. If pointing out facts and you being wrong makes you feel foolish, then get a new hobby, because it's exhausting when you bitch and moan about all this shit and make claims of disrespect and dogpiling, and everyone here has been civil.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Sept 13, 2019 20:29:49 GMT -5
And then you chime in to keep dogpiling on me after all I did was explain where I was coming from, as if what you're saying makes any difference whatsoever to anything being said here. More disrespect... Why? 5 years is a long time in real life... Sure. However, when they've only fought 3-4 times in that stretch, that's not really that long at all in terms of being strictly between these two particular fighters. It's not like these guys were fighting each other exclusively for 5 years, and Brock's lost 50 fights to Cro Cop in that span, yet all your arguments make it sound like that's the case. They've fought others... Both winning and losing. So what if I don't see much of a difference in him as you claim to? In the grand scheme of things, what difference does it make that people have to go out of their way, just to try and make others look foolish when we're all supposed to be here having fun, not to be assholes to each other? I honestly don't see much of a difference yet and that's based out of my own experience with the fighter. That's it. No amount of any of you trying to convince me otherwise with this stat or that stat, is going to change my mind until I do see it myself. I don't even know why you guys bother, other than to be shit disturbers. lol It does get tedious from my side too. So let's just agree to disagree, and move on. Wtf dude. If pointing out facts and you being wrong makes you feel foolish, then get a new hobby, because it's exhausting when you bitch and moan about all this shit and make claims of disrespect and dogpiling, and everyone here has been civil. Once again.. It's the way in which it was presented, not the fact that it was pointed out. Like I said, we can disagree on points, and point things out without being disrespectful, and the way Rocketmen posted that was passive aggressive, not civil. He might as well have just said: "You're stupid cuz...". Just as I have to watch what and how I say things, so should everyone else when interacting with me too. It's only fair.
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Post by The Rocketmen on Sept 13, 2019 21:00:14 GMT -5
Wtf dude. If pointing out facts and you being wrong makes you feel foolish, then get a new hobby, because it's exhausting when you bitch and moan about all this shit and make claims of disrespect and dogpiling, and everyone here has been civil. Like I said, we can disagree on points, and point things out without being disrespectful, and the way Rocketmen posted that was passive aggressive, not civil. He might as well have just said: "You're stupid cuz...".I agree. Saying that would have been disrespectful. So it's a good thing I didn't say that? Just as I have to watch what and how I say things, so should everyone else when interacting with me too. It's only fair. Maybe you need to learn how to read things and stop assuming there is malice? What I bolded above is such a noteworthy thing, because you are specifically highlighting that interacting with you is tricky, and it shouldn't be. Everyone is trying to have fun. As Justin pointed out earlier, the only opinions cast in this entire thread was that "5 years is a long time ago for a site that is only 8 years old." That's it. The only time anyone got uppity in this thread is when you suggested that I've somehow been doing stuff on the site to antagonize you, and I've basically done everything I could to just ignore your presence entirely here. We went from you coming back to the site and getting upset at me because I said "diamonds are forever" to now you creating a fake moment in which I was an asshole and said you're stupid, when that conversation never even existed. That writer's tone you've assumed on to anything I write is entirely on you. You think I am being an asshole because you think I am an asshole. That's all that is. That's fine. You can feel that way about me, it literally does not affect my life in any way at all. Whether you like me or don't, it doesn't matter and it doesn't affect anything in my life other than the 12 seconds it took me to write this sentence. But since you seem to be incapable of letting a grudge go from 6 years ago, I'll just go back to pretending you don't exist again. Best of luck to your team, hope you have a great time on this site and build some good fighters.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Sept 13, 2019 21:11:43 GMT -5
Like I said, we can disagree on points, and point things out without being disrespectful, and the way Rocketmen posted that was passive aggressive, not civil. He might as well have just said: "You're stupid cuz...".I agree. Saying that would have been disrespectful. So it's a good thing I didn't say that? Just as I have to watch what and how I say things, so should everyone else when interacting with me too. It's only fair. Maybe you need to learn how to read things and stop assuming there is malice? What I bolded above is such a noteworthy thing, because you are specifically highlighting that interacting with you is tricky, and it shouldn't be. Everyone is trying to have fun. As Justin pointed out earlier, the only opinions cast in this entire thread was that "5 years is a long time ago for a site that is only 8 years old." That's it. The only time anyone got uppity in this thread is when you suggested that I've somehow been doing stuff on the site to antagonize you, and I've basically done everything I could to just ignore your presence entirely here. We went from you coming back to the site and getting upset at me because I said "diamonds are forever" to now you creating a fake moment in which I was an asshole and said you're stupid, when that conversation never even existed. That writer's tone you've assumed on to anything I write is entirely on you. You think I am being an asshole because you think I am an asshole. That's all that is. That's fine. You can feel that way about me, it literally does not affect my life in any way at all. Whether you like me or don't, it doesn't matter and it doesn't affect anything in my life other than the 12 seconds it took me to write this sentence. But since you seem to be incapable of letting a grudge go from 6 years ago, I'll just go back to pretending you don't exist again. Best of luck to your team, hope you have a great time on this site and build some good fighters. No fake moment bud... And I could literally say the same things about you too. Plus share many of the same sentiments as it pertains to not affecting my life either. You didn't have to chime in, in that tone, just as I didn't have to respond it either. We did... We've now discussed it. It's over. I'm good with that.
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Sept 13, 2019 21:15:58 GMT -5
I agree. Saying that would have been disrespectful. So it's a good thing I didn't say that? Maybe you need to learn how to read things and stop assuming there is malice? What I bolded above is such a noteworthy thing, because you are specifically highlighting that interacting with you is tricky, and it shouldn't be. Everyone is trying to have fun. As Justin pointed out earlier, the only opinions cast in this entire thread was that "5 years is a long time ago for a site that is only 8 years old." That's it. The only time anyone got uppity in this thread is when you suggested that I've somehow been doing stuff on the site to antagonize you, and I've basically done everything I could to just ignore your presence entirely here. We went from you coming back to the site and getting upset at me because I said "diamonds are forever" to now you creating a fake moment in which I was an asshole and said you're stupid, when that conversation never even existed. That writer's tone you've assumed on to anything I write is entirely on you. You think I am being an asshole because you think I am an asshole. That's all that is. That's fine. You can feel that way about me, it literally does not affect my life in any way at all. Whether you like me or don't, it doesn't matter and it doesn't affect anything in my life other than the 12 seconds it took me to write this sentence. But since you seem to be incapable of letting a grudge go from 6 years ago, I'll just go back to pretending you don't exist again. Best of luck to your team, hope you have a great time on this site and build some good fighters. No fake moment bud... And I could literally say the same things about you too. Plus share many of the same sentiments as it pertains to not affecting my life either. You didn't have to chime in, in that tone, just as I didn't have to respond it either. We did... We've now discussed it. It's over. I'm good with that. Well the way this is going, I assume you're not going to have a team again soon. I didn't fight for you to get your team back just to freak out about things that don't warrant you freaking out.
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