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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 22, 2013 22:36:16 GMT -5
How would you set up the 5? Like, what weight classes (cause different people develop different weight classes type deal ) Heavyweight Middleweight Lightweight Women's Openweight (Your choice) I do like that, but the problem with openweight is it basically becomes heavyweight. We've found in the past weight CAN play a factor and average HWs can beat above-average MWs/LWs. If it wasn't an absolute migraine to add that many extra fights I could be quite excited about that addition. As is, I like it (women+openweight), but am on the fence. What do others think (keeping in mind what I said about the openweight though). Oh, also, I know at least one team only has 5 fighters though, hahaha. What would he do if one was unable to compete?
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Post by xx - The Underdog Regime on Jul 22, 2013 22:57:49 GMT -5
Heavyweight Middleweight Lightweight Women's Openweight (Your choice) I do like that, but the problem with openweight is it basically becomes heavyweight. We've found in the past weight CAN play a factor and average HWs can beat above-average MWs/LWs. If it wasn't an absolute migraine to add that many extra fights I could be quite excited about that addition. As is, I like it (women+openweight), but am on the fence. What do others think (keeping in mind what I said about the openweight though). Oh, also, I know at least one team only has 5 fighters though, hahaha. What would he do if one was unable to compete? Weight can play a factor, so that could mean having a different fighter in your MW/LW division and putting your champ in the openweight part. Strategy. This is just to add emphasis on the Women's division some more, and it also emphasises that teams should have more fighters to better their odds in getting into the GP and winning it. If they stick with the 5 fighters, not to be completely rude and all, but they're shit outta luck.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jul 23, 2013 0:54:34 GMT -5
I don't mind if your best LW is a woman, to allow them in the GP. Fine by me, BUT personally, I'd rather a separate category for the women in the GP. They deserve it. Yes, it's more for Sandman to deal with for the GP, but better for the league, since we're trying to build the women's division anyways.
The other alternative is an ALL FEMALE Event (Yay, INVICTA!) that I will host, being that the card will take place in Vancouver, about mid season. Doesn't have quite the pinache of the GP, but still gives our girls their due. We'd have a one night tournament and the Main Event would be for the Women's title.
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 23, 2013 12:32:04 GMT -5
I'm not sure you fully understood the suggestion, PHX. Underdogs was suggesting adding Women and an openweight to the grand prix (5 fights per round, instead of 3). There is no simple way to JUST add women.
We don't have the schedule allowance to do an all-female event with 1 night tournament at this time, due to the N1C tournaments (and now with our women in the numbers I want, those will be more interesting now too).
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Jul 23, 2013 12:36:04 GMT -5
only way I see too add 5 fights would be women and the 5th fight being a fighter of persons choice any weight class vs but that be dumb as well all know hws usally tend 2 win like when we first started league
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 23, 2013 12:39:15 GMT -5
A-Tier MWs might be able to drop some B-level heavyweights. That is kind of the heart of Underdogs suggestion - GOOD, well-developed lighter weightclasses could take out average heavier classes.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jul 23, 2013 17:37:00 GMT -5
What, like a Light Heavyweight Class or a Welterweight Class? Something like that?
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Post by xx - The Underdog Regime on Jul 23, 2013 20:50:21 GMT -5
What, like a Light Heavyweight Class or a Welterweight Class? Something like that? No, it's still openweight, it's just that you'd put your better LW/MW in the openweight spot. Example: HW: Bork Laser (Best HW) MW: Vince McMahon (2nd or 3rd best MW) LW: Josh Matthews (Best LW) FF: Jessica Jaymes (Best FF) OW: Randal Orton (Best MW)
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jul 23, 2013 20:59:14 GMT -5
Yah, I see what you're saying, but Cannon's actually right, the open weight classes didn't really work all that well before... lol It's the reason we had an 0-10 Rickson Gracie.
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Post by xx - The Underdog Regime on Jul 23, 2013 21:04:55 GMT -5
Yah, I see what you're saying, but Cannon's actually right, the open weight classes didn't really work all that well before... lol It's the reason we had an 0-10 Rickson Gracie. If you guys are so worried about heavyweights being in the openweight fight, then we can make a rule that the OW spot has to be either a MW or LW.
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 23, 2013 22:44:05 GMT -5
Yah, I see what you're saying, but Cannon's actually right, the open weight classes didn't really work all that well before... lol It's the reason we had an 0-10 Rickson Gracie. To clarify, 8 of Rickson's first 10 losses were to MWs. But in the big "David vs. Goliath" event we had, I think there were like, 12 fights of HWs vs. LWs-esque fights, and only 2 lighter weight classes won. BUT. A LOT has happened since then and I MIGHT be open to trying this this year....WIth Phoenix helping with more stuff this season, I might be able to do some dellegating to focus on a longer GP sim. I will kinda think about it some, cause it would be a cool way to a) add strategy, as Under dogs said, with putting your best MW at openweight, as well as get the women in there, which I know PHX and I have wanted for about 4 seasons
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Post by Ferocity on Jul 25, 2013 20:00:24 GMT -5
I'm a little concerned about how many of us have 3 women? Is Phoenix loaning out some?
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 25, 2013 20:11:04 GMT -5
I'm a little concerned about how many of us have 3 women? Is Phoenix loaning out some? No one would be using 3 women. RIght now, the grand prix consists of: LW MW HW. TOtalling 3 fights. The proposition is to bump that up to: LW MW HW WOmen Open weight Totalling 5 fights. You only need 1 woman. If you want to toss a woman in the open weight...you can. BUt not necessary.
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Post by xx - Team GAP on Jul 26, 2013 2:01:40 GMT -5
I'm a little concerned about how many of us have 3 women? Is Phoenix loaning out some? No one would be using 3 women. RIght now, the grand prix consists of: LW MW HW. TOtalling 3 fights. The proposition is to bump that up to: LW MW HW WOmen Open weight Totalling 5 fights. You only need 1 woman. If you want to toss a woman in the open weight...you can. BUt not necessary. How about losing the open weight and only do an open weight as a decider... for example LW MW HW Women fight if it goes 2-2 then you go to the open weight choice as the decider.
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 26, 2013 9:01:51 GMT -5
How about losing the open weight and only do an open weight as a decider... for example LW MW HW Women fight if it goes 2-2 then you go to the open weight choice as the decider. Yes, I would prefer this, but because of the way the simulator is designed, it would be a simming nightmare unfortunately.
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