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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jan 2, 2014 17:32:12 GMT -5
REgardless of what you said there (TL;DNR), my chick beat your chick and that makes you grumpy. IT'S OVER NOW. TIME TO MOVE ON. That wasn't long, if you think it was then you're not only an asshole, but an idiot too... but that's not surprising on either count really considering the source. And your chick didn't beat my chick... the doctor won that fight, everyone else lost.
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Post by The Sandmen on Jan 2, 2014 20:53:13 GMT -5
Stopped reading again when the name calling started. You need to stop that if you want me to finish reading your posts, brother.
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Post by The Sandmen on Jan 2, 2014 21:09:20 GMT -5
here's the deal- it sucks that they can't just fight again like right now, but they can't. Deal with it. I would be pissed too, but I'd just try to make it so that she has a real chance against Carano next time and hope for the best.
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Post by xx - Team GAP on Jan 3, 2014 3:27:02 GMT -5
Point is.. what happened after the GSP-Hendricks fight? People screamed bloody murder that "there should be a rematch cause GSP shouldn't have won".. what happened after Weidman beat Silva? people screamed bloody murder for a rematch.. it happens in mma all the time that after a big fight and the result is unfavorable for the fans (not the fighter) that they decide a rematch is in the interest of the fans.. and they make more money on ppv's.. in this case the fans are screaming bloody murder and you are refusing.. even ferocity said "it sucks that they can't just fight again like right now" which means as a fan.. she would like to see the rematch(but the rules of the site prevents this from happening). So since your the big wig around here(much like dana white to ufc) you can make decisions based on what people want to see.. and we want to see a rematch. Really what do you have to lose? Your belt. thats it!
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Post by The Sandmen on Jan 3, 2014 9:11:39 GMT -5
Point is.. what happened after the GSP-Hendricks fight? People screamed bloody murder that "there should be a rematch cause GSP shouldn't have won".. what happened after Weidman beat Silva? people screamed bloody murder for a rematch.. it happens in mma all the time that after a big fight and the result is unfavorable for the fans (not the fighter) that they decide a rematch is in the interest of the fans.. and they make more money on ppv's.. in this case the fans are screaming bloody murder and you are refusing.. even ferocity said "it sucks that they can't just fight again like right now" which means as a fan.. she would like to see the rematch(but the rules of the site prevents this from happening). So since your the big wig around here(much like dana white to ufc) you can make decisions based on what people want to see.. and we want to see a rematch. Really what do you have to lose? Your belt. thats it! What we have to lose is there have been 49 fights here that have ended in a cut stoppage. Where do you want to draw the line? Should we rematch all 49 of those fights? Is it that this fight was 29 seconds long? Should we rematch all 29 second title fights? I am sure lots of people would like to see several of our 29 second title fights again (especially those who held the champ and would like to pad his/her record - Carano, Kaufman and Cyborg have several 30 second KO title fights). I have no problem with this as a belt holder, as I don't see D'Alelio as a threat, to be completely honest. But as a ManMMA administrator, I do see a threat in allowing people to bully their way into title rematches when the league had a problem with it. I refused to do it with Cannon when JDS lost the belt to Silva, and I refuse to do it now. My offer was conditional on no one caring. Someone cared. As far as I am concerned, to do it now would be a slap in the face to that member, who was pretty firm in her stance. And that is if we are ignoring Cannon's objection, which is just as unfair, as like him or not, he is a member of this site just as you or I.
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Post by xx - Team GAP on Jan 3, 2014 9:54:54 GMT -5
I have no problem with cannon or ferocity... and please don't make it a battle between us and them.. i discussed my point and i believe i made myself clear. I don't feel that fight was fair.. and it is because there was a cut stoppage so early in the fight that made it unfair.
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Post by The Sandmen on Jan 3, 2014 10:15:15 GMT -5
Okay, but what I am saying is this:
1) My offer on a rematch was conditional on no objections from the league; there were 2. A fair, mutually-agreed-upon opportunity was presented for a rematch under these conditions, but they were not met.
2) Where is the line? Right now, when a fight ends, that is the line. But once you open the floodgates to rematches here, you are opening them WIDE. Is it length? Arbitrary "not fair" reasoning (PHX has those every time his fighter loses)? Cut stoppages?
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jan 3, 2014 12:42:13 GMT -5
Point is.. what happened after the GSP-Hendricks fight? People screamed bloody murder that "there should be a rematch cause GSP shouldn't have won".. what happened after Weidman beat Silva? people screamed bloody murder for a rematch.. it happens in mma all the time that after a big fight and the result is unfavorable for the fans (not the fighter) that they decide a rematch is in the interest of the fans.. and they make more money on ppv's.. in this case the fans are screaming bloody murder and you are refusing.. even ferocity said "it sucks that they can't just fight again like right now" which means as a fan.. she would like to see the rematch(but the rules of the site prevents this from happening). So since your the big wig around here(much like dana white to ufc) you can make decisions based on what people want to see.. and we want to see a rematch. Really what do you have to lose? Your belt. thats it! What we have to lose is there have been 49 fights here that have ended in a cut stoppage. Where do you want to draw the line? Should we rematch all 49 of those fights? Is it that this fight was 29 seconds long? Should we rematch all 29 second title fights? I am sure lots of people would like to see several of our 29 second title fights again (especially those who held the champ and would like to pad his/her record - Carano, Kaufman and Cyborg have several 30 second KO title fights). I have no problem with this as a belt holder, as I don't see D'Alelio as a threat, to be completely honest. But as a ManMMA administrator, I do see a threat in allowing people to bully their way into title rematches when the league had a problem with it. I refused to do it with Cannon when JDS lost the belt to Silva, and I refuse to do it now. My offer was conditional on no one caring. Someone cared. As far as I am concerned, to do it now would be a slap in the face to that member, who was pretty firm in her stance. And that is if we are ignoring Cannon's objection, which is just as unfair, as like him or not, he is a member of this site just as you or I. Conditional or not, the offer was made and accepted. It's also kind of funny how it just happens to be your fighter, again, that's at the center of the controversy and you're not allowing it to happen again. No one's bullying their way into a title rematch here Sandman. If anything, you're being the bully by not allowing it to happen after issuing the challenge yourself. So I really think you need to rephrase your "as a ManMMA administrator" statement because the way you're acting right now is more like Dana White as "THE" ManMMA administrator and I acting like I really have no say on this issue at all, even though I'm supposed to be an administrator too, but you've just made the decision yourself. There's nothing unfair about someone issuing a challenge and it being accepted.
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Post by The Sandmen on Jan 3, 2014 13:13:01 GMT -5
The offer was made on the condition no one had a problem with it. People did. It's over. LONG OVER. Get over it, and earn another title shot.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jan 3, 2014 14:29:20 GMT -5
The offer was made on the condition no one had a problem with it. People did. It's over. LONG OVER. Get over it, and earn another title shot. That's not the issue... I didn't even get the initial title shot I did earn in the first place. lol As far as I'm concerned it should be up to the team that has that champion whether they give a rematch cuz of stupidity that ensued in the fight. And as far as I'm concerned, as an admin of this site, that offer/challenge was made and accepted; done deal. But now if I go and make that ruling that rematch will take place based on that, you'll just turn around and "overrule" it because you're the simmer and just refuse to sim it, even though it's the right thing to do for everyone on the site, not just me.
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Post by The Sandmen on Jan 3, 2014 21:56:58 GMT -5
I didn't even get the initial title shot I did earn in the first place. lol She did. She lost. As far as I'm concerned it should be up to the team that has that champion whether they give a rematch cuz of stupidity that ensued in the fight. OKay, sure. I have Carano. On the advice of Ferocity and Cannon, I do not accept the rematch. Earn another title shot. Done deal.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jan 4, 2014 15:07:13 GMT -5
I didn't even get the initial title shot I did earn in the first place. lol She did. She lost. As far as I'm concerned it should be up to the team that has that champion whether they give a rematch cuz of stupidity that ensued in the fight. OKay, sure. I have Carano. On the advice of Ferocity and Cannon, I do not accept the rematch. Earn another title shot. Done deal. She didn't lose, it was taken away by a ridiculous stoppage 28s into the fight. And you can't retract the offer/challenge once it's been made and accepted; only the one issued the challenge can accept or deny. So, therefore, as an admin of this site, and in the interest of fairness, I am officially ruling that Sarah D'Alelio receive the rematch she was offered by The Sandmen and is to be added to the ManMMA 193 card. Any complaints about this ruling can be sent to my inbox. Thank you.
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Post by The Sandmen on Jan 4, 2014 20:15:43 GMT -5
She did. She lost. OKay, sure. I have Carano. On the advice of Ferocity and Cannon, I do not accept the rematch. Earn another title shot. Done deal. She didn't lose, She won then? She is the champion right now, due to finishing Carano? Oh. I guess I missed that part.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jan 4, 2014 20:26:17 GMT -5
She won then? She is the champion right now, due to finishing Carano? Oh. I guess I missed that part. I explained it in it's entirety on the Announcements board. I'm not going to go into a novel on this thread when it's all in another thread.
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Post by Ferocity on Jan 4, 2014 21:56:43 GMT -5
I will go read your novel Pheonix.... but I gotta say from here and now, I'd say she lost. Not in a good way. But she lost. People loose badly.
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