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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Nov 17, 2014 0:26:36 GMT -5
The funniest part is if you guys actually scroll up and read the thread again...you'll see the following: - We are talking about the Diaz brothers. - I say "What about Hacran Dias" - GAP says, "He is a Diaz" - I say "Um." (Because...he is a Dias, not a Diaz). - Phoenix quotes me, mentioning the Honours vs. Honors debate. Now, Phoenix is either being ironic (never happened before), or he doesn't realize he just said I was right in the Honours debate in the same way I am right in the Dias vs. Diaz issue. Since his name is Hacran Dias, not Diaz. In light of that, I think xx - Team GAP really did say it best right here: It was irony... and quite frankly, it does happen. I believe that you believe you're right on the Honours vs. Honors debate, but the fact is that I never once said you were wrong in that debate either, which makes it even more funny now that you're trying to make it seem other wise. So yes... xx - Team GAP did say it best. lol
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Post by The Sandmen on Nov 17, 2014 0:35:49 GMT -5
That and the fact there is no debate about Honours vs. Honors (at least in the context of the aforementioned degree). It is, was, and will forever non-interchangeably be "Honours". Just like Dias.
Now everyone is happy, and we can go back to calling the Diaz brothers jerks.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Nov 17, 2014 0:52:40 GMT -5
That and the fact there is no debate about Honours vs. Honors (at least in the context of the aforementioned degree). It is, was, and will forever non-interchangeably be "Honours". Just like Dias. Now everyone is happy, and we can go back to calling the Diaz brothers jerks. lol I disagree, but it's your degree... you can you can spell Hono(u)rs, however you want... I really don't care.
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Post by The Sandmen on Nov 17, 2014 2:45:57 GMT -5
Now that is even funnier. Following what you have said, Hacran Dias and Nick Diaz have interchangeable last names (which you claim you understood the irony of that claim earlier, but you clearly do not), just as the NAME of my degree can be either Honours or Honors (again, this is not the "graduated with hono(u)rs we are talking about, it is the name of the PROGRAM and therefor the title on the certificate as well. It is not a qualifier dependant on performance - it is the proper name of the degree itself. (And as I explained to GAP, because of this, I technically have an Honours Degree with Hono(u)rs. Names do not change based on geographical location, but how you spell descriptive nouns can.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Nov 17, 2014 3:06:54 GMT -5
Now that is even funnier. Following what you have said, Hacran Dias and Nick Diaz have interchangeable last names (which you claim you understood the irony of that claim earlier, but you clearly do not), just as the NAME of my degree can be either Honours or Honors (again, this is not the "graduated with hono(u)rs we are talking about, it is the name of the PROGRAM and therefor the title on the certificate as well. It is not a qualifier dependant on performance - it is the proper name of the degree itself. (And as I explained to GAP, because of this, I technically have an Honours Degree with Hono(u)rs. Names do not change based on geographical location, but how you spell descriptive nouns can. You got serious issues dude... actually the spelling of those names does generally depict a geographical location those particular families came from just as the spelling of hono(u)rs is different in geographical locations; both mean the same but spelled differently. I get you don't like it and are so adamant about it, and that's fine, but it still doesn't make either of us wrong... no matter how you try to twist it. Oh, and just for your point of reference... Dias is Portugeuse; which is where many Brazilian & South American families originated and Diaz is Spanish, where many Mexicans families originated.
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Post by The Sandmen on Nov 17, 2014 14:08:01 GMT -5
You are missing the point while proving mine. Hacran's last name is Dias. It's his name, so it is never Diaz unless someone spells it wrong. Honours Degree is the name of the degree. It's its name, so it is never Honors unless someone spells it wrong. Because this is not a debate, but an issue of comprehension I am going to keep trying to make you understand this, because it is not an "opinion" thing. It's not debatable any more than 2+2=4 and I want to help you understand, not "to be right" but because knowledge is power. I explained to xx - Team GAP, there are often several branches of a program you can apply for in University. Let's talk Sociology - which my wife has. She could have done a 3 year Degree in Sociology, or a 4 year Honours Degree in Sociology. They are different degrees. The NAME of the degree at the end is different, based on which branch was chosen. Anywhere one goes with that Honours Degree in Sociology, it remains an Honours Degree in Sociology. I still think where you are getting confused though is the idea of having hono(u)rs, and that is understandable. When you graduate with an average above a certain level, they say you have graduated "with honours" or more specifically the Latin "cum laude" to avoid redundancy. THAT part you can technically change around all you want if you like, since the idea of graduating with honours does not change the name or the branch of the degree itself.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Nov 17, 2014 16:37:43 GMT -5
You are missing the point while proving mine. Hacran's last name is Dias. It's his name, so it is never Diaz unless someone spells it wrong. Honours Degree is the name of the degree. It's its name, so it is never Honors unless someone spells it wrong. Because this is not a debate, but an issue of comprehension I am going to keep trying to make you understand this, because it is not an "opinion" thing. It's not debatable any more than 2+2=4 and I want to help you understand, not "to be right" but because knowledge is power. I explained to xx - Team GAP, there are often several branches of a program you can apply for in University. Let's talk Sociology - which my wife has. She could have done a 3 year Degree in Sociology, or a 4 year Honours Degree in Sociology. They are different degrees. The NAME of the degree at the end is different, based on which branch was chosen. Anywhere one goes with that Honours Degree in Sociology, it remains an Honours Degree in Sociology. I still think where you are getting confused though is the idea of having hono(u)rs, and that is understandable. When you graduate with an average above a certain level, they say you have graduated "with honours" or more specifically the Latin "cum laude" to avoid redundancy. THAT part you can technically change around all you want if you like, since the idea of graduating with honours does not change the name or the branch of the degree itself. Nope... I'm not missing a damn thing nor am I confused about anything. lol I get that's the name of the degree, and that's fine... I just find it hilarious cuz Honors and Honours are, in fact, the same thing and you continue to attempt to correct me on it, when the reality is, the degree is the degree, regardless of how it's spelled. lol
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Post by The Sandmen on Nov 17, 2014 16:49:24 GMT -5
And what I am saying is that you have made an error, and that in this instance Honors and Honours are NOT, in fact, the same thing. in fact, they are different. In this case. Not all cases. In this case.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Nov 17, 2014 18:04:57 GMT -5
And what I am saying is that you have made an error, and that in this instance Honors and Honours are NOT, in fact, the same thing. in fact, they are different. In this case. Not all cases. In this case. We'll agree to disagree then cuz the spelling of it doesn't make it any less relevant.
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Post by The Sandmen on Nov 17, 2014 18:32:37 GMT -5
Then we'll agree your name is both Matt and Sean, cause the spelling of it doesn't make it any different.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Nov 17, 2014 19:04:08 GMT -5
Then we'll agree your name is both Matt and Sean, cause the spelling of it doesn't make it any different. Well no actually... cuz they mean different things... BUT, and as much as I don't like this, you'd actually be more apt saying that Ian and Matt are the same because they mean the same thing in atleast 2 different cultures. Atleast that would be accurate to the point I'm trying to make; Matt and Sean don't work.
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Post by The Sandmen on Nov 17, 2014 20:02:40 GMT -5
Okay, and again, you have asked me not to call you Ian, and you hate it. But Matt you are okay with. So there is a difference, even though they mean the same thing. Just like Honours and Honors (in the case of the name of the damned degree).
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Nov 17, 2014 22:36:11 GMT -5
Okay, and again, you have asked me not to call you Ian, and you hate it. But Matt you are okay with. So there is a difference, even though they mean the same thing. Just like Honours and Honors (in the case of the name of the damned degree). You're still fishing lol But we've now found a common ground with it lol Kruze: 1 - Sandman: 0
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Post by The Sandmen on Nov 18, 2014 0:30:03 GMT -5
It's not fishing when it's fact.
Explaining that "2+2=4" is not "fishing". It's fact - no matter how many times you say, or even believe, it's 5.
I am all in favour of stopping here, but it's not an agreement to disagree, it's you failing to accept a fact because the source is me, someone you otherwise have issue with, and you are stubborn like that.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Nov 18, 2014 0:58:03 GMT -5
It's not fishing when it's fact. Explaining that "2+2=4" is not "fishing". It's fact - no matter how many times you say, or even believe, it's 5. I am all in favour of stopping here, but it's not an agreement to disagree, it's you failing to accept a fact because the source is me, someone you otherwise have issue with, and you are stubborn like that. Nope... still fishing. lol
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