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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Mar 26, 2015 14:22:39 GMT -5
Kaufman can beat Carano and she's no where near maxed. She can and has... but not in a dog's age. Carano has been unbeatable for several seasons now.
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Post by The Sandmen on Mar 26, 2015 15:03:55 GMT -5
1) Words mean things; Carano has lost several times in the past several seasons. That, by definition, is not "unbeatable". 2) Have you seen anyone in that time-frame upgrade their women with the time and TLC that was put into Carano? Holm will probably beat her this upcoming card (though I will probably still be fine-tuning Carano for that fight), Murphy has beat her, but outside of those 2 - who's had the work done necessary to beat a heavily/well-upgraded female fighter? 3) Holly Holm is on a winning-streak almost as long as Carano's. 4) Carano is the champion, and champions should be damned hard to beat. That is why they are champions, and why beating them is so satisfying. Same with Wanderlei and Overeem. I love having dominant champions, because when you beat them, you have really accomplished something.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Mar 26, 2015 19:15:35 GMT -5
1) Words mean things; Carano has lost several times in the past several seasons. That, by definition, is not "unbeatable". 2) Have you seen anyone in that time-frame upgrade their women with the time and TLC that was put into Carano? Holm will probably beat her this upcoming card (though I will probably still be fine-tuning Carano for that fight), Murphy has beat her, but outside of those 2 - who's had the work done necessary to beat a heavily/well-upgraded female fighter? 3) Holly Holm is on a winning-streak almost as long as Carano's. 4) Carano is the champion, and champions should be damned hard to beat. That is why they are champions, and why beating them is so satisfying. Same with Wanderlei and Overeem. I love having dominant champions, because when you beat them, you have really accomplished something. 1) Yes, words do mean things and losing only 9 times total over 10 seasons is "several", it's not allot compared to her counterparts that have been here the same amount of time; that's not even 1 loss per season in a total of 66 fights. So you saying she's lost "several" times is accurate, in terms of the meaning of the word, but still a joke when she's got an 86.3 win% lol 2) Unless you do your fine tuning to specifically lose to Holm, Carano won't lose. As for who has had the time & TLC Carano has; other than Murphy? Coenen, D'Alelio, Davis, Carmouche, Yamanaka, Fujii, Gurgel, Nakai, and to a smaller extent Rousey, though Rousey wasn't as TLC-ish with Cannon's recklessness in how he was upgrading her pre-cap... but not a single one of those could barely even touch Carano, let alone beat her. So don't sit there and say no one's put the time into their women other than Murphy & Holm, cuz that couldn't be further from the truth. 3) Good for Holm... it ends next card, unless you throw the fight with your fine tuning. 4) Yah, champions should be difficult to beat, but not impossible... and I get that Gina's your favorite women's fighter, but even according to your "accurate" best of all-time list, she still only ranks 18th among women. She was a great fighter, no one's denying that... and should she be good here... yes, absolutely... but she is literally the only fighter in ManMMA now that is nearly 100% unbeatable unless you get one lucky shot cuz otherwise it's over in less than a minute, usually... and no one even has a prayer, no matter how well you've upgraded or time and TLC you've put into them. Dominant champions are one thing... Carano's completely something else in ManMMA. And it's really not an indictment of you, it's simply stating the fact that I really can see why folks have lost interest in the women's division... sure, the rest of the fights are a little more interesting now, but most of us that do spend the time upgrading our women, are effectively spending their time and points to get fed to Carano... not really all that fun. No malice... just saying... and even though I've been saying it for a long time, you just don't seem to give a shit cuz whenever someone makes any suggestion about the women's division, it's just automatically shot down without any second thought even though you claim to be open to any changes...
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Post by The Sandmen on Mar 26, 2015 22:18:11 GMT -5
You said too much repetitive shit, so I only skimmed it. But here's the gist of my reply: Carano is what she is because i upgraded her. Period. She is ranked 18th or whatever on your list and is the champ here. D'Alelio is not ranked on your list, and is literally nothing in the grand scope of WMMA. Yet she is a top 10 fighter here most of the time.
Carano is not maxed out. If you, or anyone else want to beat her, go nuts. The door is open. I would encourage you to do more upgrading and less whining.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Mar 27, 2015 13:09:34 GMT -5
You said too much repetitive shit, so I only skimmed it. But here's the gist of my reply: Carano is what she is because i upgraded her. Period. She is ranked 18th or whatever on your list and is the champ here. D'Alelio is not ranked on your list, and is literally nothing in the grand scope of WMMA. Yet she is a top 10 fighter here most of the time. Carano is not maxed out. If you, or anyone else want to beat her, go nuts. The door is open. I would encourage you to do more upgrading and less whining. There was nothing repetitive there, but, in typical Sandman fashion, you just pass the buck and ignore everything presented to you cuz yoour notion is "I'm always right and you're always wrong... so fuck you." and the thing is that if you actually listened to anyone for a change, and I mean REALLY listened, you'd find that allot of things would be allot less confrontational around here instead of having the only thought running through your brain being "oh, well this guy is just arguing for the sake of arguing." or "he's just whining." or "oh he's just attacking me and calling me a jerk." Well, if you didn't act like a jerk, no one would say you were, but you've always got your guard up thinking that "they're out to get me" and nothing ever gets accomplished cuz of that stance cuz you'll kibosh any suggestion or mutate it into something that it was never intended to be cuz, for whatever reason, you think all your ideas are golden and anyone else's are shit unless you tweak them. I get that this is your site and that you're.protective and stuff, but where inlays the problem with that is that if someone posts a suggestion to better the league and there's even one person opposed to it, we don't do it... if you post a.suggestion and there's any oppositon to it, it just gets put in anyways cuz one or two people agree with you and a couple others don't care, like we saw with the.men's cap this off season. We hadn't even finished the discussion about it and you were already implementing it. It's honestly situations like that where a few of us get the idea that you're a pig-headed jerk, because you act like one allot on this site.
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Post by The Sandmen on Mar 27, 2015 14:10:24 GMT -5
Kruze, you know I love ya, but some good advice man - work on keeping your replies MUCH SHORTER. You become overly long-winded and people stop reading part way through because it becomes a chore to read long essay after long essay. You do acting. Remember KISS - Keep It Short & Simple. Far more effective.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Mar 27, 2015 15:11:52 GMT -5
Kruze, you know I love ya, but some good advice man - work on keeping your replies MUCH SHORTER. You become overly long-winded and people stop reading part way through because it becomes a chore to read long essay after long essay. You do acting. Remember KISS - Keep It Short & Simple. Far more effective. Yah that's great theory, except that when I don't explain things clearly to you, you take things out of context and twist it around to sonething you know damn well wasn't the meaning at all... so either accept the long-windedness or stop twisting things around... your choice.
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Post by The Sandmen on Mar 27, 2015 15:16:28 GMT -5
Nothing is twisted here except you, my deranged little friend.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Mar 27, 2015 15:27:30 GMT -5
Nothing is twisted here except you, my deranged little friend. And this is the exact shitty attitude from you I was talking about... 'nuff said.
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Post by The Sandmen on Mar 27, 2015 15:49:52 GMT -5
YOU'RE TWISTING MY WORDS NOW I HAVE TO TYPE 60 PARAGRAPHS IN 1 SENTENCE!!!
(P.S. Go work on your suggestions so they can be resolved)
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Mar 27, 2015 16:31:49 GMT -5
YOU'RE TWISTING MY WORDS NOW I HAVE TO TYPE 60 PARAGRAPHS IN 1 SENTENCE!!! (P.S. Go work on your suggestions so they can be resolved) There's nothing that can be resolved due to the things I outlined above... you really need to start looking at these things we tell you as constructive rather than getting your panties in a bunch and thinking that it's "get Justin time", which it isn't. We all want things to be smoother around here and more fun, but it's not always everyone else that's the problem here bro... how you act and respond to things is just as important as how any of us do.
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Post by The Sandmen on Mar 27, 2015 21:52:30 GMT -5
You saying it over and over again doesn't make it true. You not having a solution to any of the problems you pitched in any of the threads, however, is true. Stop talking to me about it here, and get working on it in the threads. You will accomplish nothing in this thread.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Mar 28, 2015 15:42:28 GMT -5
You saying it over and over again doesn't make it true. You not having a solution to any of the problems you pitched in any of the threads, however, is true. Stop talking to me about it here, and get working on it in the threads. You will accomplish nothing in this thread. You're contradicting yourself since you keep repeating over and over the same crap you always do and think that makes it true lol When the reality is that I have been giving solutions, long(er) term solutions, as oppose to the short term band-aids you spew out every season or two. It's the same frakking problem we had when I was "staff"... and again, what got accomplished there? Zero. ...Why? Cuz you're the embodiment of Sheldon Cooper on this site, that's why.
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Post by The Sandmen on Mar 28, 2015 16:21:22 GMT -5
Cuz you're the embodiment of Sheldon Cooper on this site, that's why. Glad to hear you finally admit this. Sheldon is a genius, with an IQ of 187.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 4, 2015 19:10:32 GMT -5
Cuz you're the embodiment of Sheldon Cooper on this site, that's why. Glad to hear you finally admit this. Sheldon is a genius, with an IQ of 187. And not much else going for him lol
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