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Post by Lord Byron's Conquistadors on Apr 9, 2015 1:28:21 GMT -5
so the trade also has a challenge to it. we're trading: to phx: jon fitch to lord byron josh barnett BUT we agree that we want josh to fight jon at catchweight and whoever wins has to pay an extra 2 points in this trade (so it will either be fitch +2 for josh OR josh +2 for fitch) we agreed on these terms 1) sandmen has to confirm that catchweight will cancel the 100 pound weight advantage 2) we argree before hand to do the trade no matter what wityh these agreed terms 4) Barnett vs. Fitch in Catchweight Fight at manmma 265 or 266. If Fitch wins,you give me 2 points in the trade If Barnett wins, i give you 2 points in the trade. quote]
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 9, 2015 1:46:02 GMT -5
We're basically letting the fighters decide who the better fighter is and the 2 points will be awarded to the losing team.
Phoenix FC Accepts.
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 9, 2015 1:56:42 GMT -5
Holy shit. How long did this take to work out; the better part of 2015?
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Post by xx - The Underdog Regime on Apr 9, 2015 1:58:50 GMT -5
I wouldn't do this clause. It's a heavyweight fighting a welterweight, so we already know the result. Let Dan Severn fight in for Fitch, so everything can be settled once and for all.
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 9, 2015 2:24:03 GMT -5
What are you guys doing in case of a draw? No points? Is the trade still going through without points? Get back to me on that before I can finalize this one ( xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club & Lord Byron's Conquistadors) RE: the weight thing... K, so here's my report: - I threw my test-dummies into the program. - They fought 300 lbs vs. 145lbs. - Their ratings were identical and the ONLY difference in their builds was the weight (1 FW and 1 Super HW - these are the weightclasses of my test dummies - we use BW, MW, HW, and LW for real ManMMA). - They fought 6 times; 3 times at open weight, 3 times at catchweight. - at open weight, there is a consistent pattern of results. - at catchweight, the fights are much closer, and no clear pattern of results seemed to exist. Summary/Verdict - there is a noticable, observable difference between openweight and catchweight. - weight appears to probably play a factor in open weight - weight appears to play far less, if any, of a factor at catchweight - even with 155lb initial weight difference. - I cannot say for certain that weight plays no factor what-so-ever in a catchweight fight. So with that information what you like, Lord Byron's Conquistadors. If this trade makes you guys happy, go nuts. I'll try to get it on ManMMA 265, which I hope to sim tomorrow if I have more energy.
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Post by Lord Byron's Conquistadors on Apr 9, 2015 2:38:37 GMT -5
umm ok thas ok i guess and yeah i guess draw = 0 points?
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 9, 2015 2:56:07 GMT -5
@ The Sandmen: We were specific about catchweight. I mentioned to the Conquistadors that there was the catchweight function on the program. The trade itself basically goes through once the fight is completed. So Barnett fights for me and Fitch fights for the Conquistadors then we swap fighters and whatever points there-in. I'm good with no points exchanged in the event of a draw.
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 9, 2015 3:19:48 GMT -5
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Post by The Rocketmen on Apr 9, 2015 6:34:41 GMT -5
In the event that one fighter dies, I get both fighters.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 9, 2015 10:01:04 GMT -5
Holy shit. How long did this take to work out; the better part of 2015? lol Something like that... we agreed on the principle fighters, we just couldn't agree on the points since Barnett is a B-rated and is supposed to be worth more by our new system since Fitch is a C-rated fighter, but on the other hand, Fitch has been fighting extremely well as of as of late, which we both agreed were valid arguments on each fighter's behalf, except that we both felt we deserved the points. So, I suggested this; a virtual coin flip, if you will... the fairest way to settle it. I know right? Kruze & Byron agreeing?!
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 9, 2015 15:49:46 GMT -5
In the event that one fighter dies, I get both fighters. .....even the dead one....? Ummmm....what'cha donna do with the dead one? Do you need me to call someone for ya?
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Post by The Rocketmen on Apr 9, 2015 18:33:15 GMT -5
That's my business and not yours. Make it so.
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 9, 2015 21:16:19 GMT -5
PROCESSED
(and for record-keeping purposes, Fitch won, and the trade became Fitch for Barnett + 2 points)
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