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Post by The Rocketmen on Jul 31, 2015 10:40:24 GMT -5
I don't want anyone except for Sandman to have those files. I don't want anyone except Sandman to be accessing said files. I don't want anyone but Sandman modifying the fighters through points transactions. I don't want anyone but Sandman to sim. Long and short of it. I want the admin of the site to be respected and thought of as not a cheating asshole, and I want everyone who thinks he's a cheating asshole to either shut the fuck up or go home. No one is saying that he's a cheating asshole; I'm certainly not. It's just a fact that having been the simmer for so long, he knows the program better than everyone else and that was highlighted by the performance his team had last season after doing his whole offload thing. I don't want to sim. I don't want to cheat. I simply want everyone to have their own knowledge of what they're doing to be on par with what Sandman's is. A way to do that is to reveal the fighter attributes to their respective GMs so that we can see and understand ourselves how to develop our fighters rather than having to ask him for "advice". They're our teams; our fighters. I mean, you don't see Dean Lombardi going to Peter Chiarelli and asking him "Hey, how should I develop Trevor Lewis?", right? It should be the same thing here. It might require that someone else put in 5+ hours of therapy, but I think the rest of the site can live with it. Does your health plan from work pay for therapy for you then? The bolded sentence implies that he is constantly looking at everyone's fighters attributes and then adjusting his own to beat them. It's an accusation of cheating, and I doubt he ha the mental capacity to memorize 3000 fucking stats to abuse his power on a site that he continuously claims he'd rather not win on. He's there to have fun, just as you are. The stigma behind a simmer for every sim site ever is that they have access to the files, and people think they cheat somehow through player adjustments. But without that simmer, there is no site. So you really need to give him the benefit of doubt to enjoy yourself here, or you're shit out of luck. You're fighting a losing battle with an improper suggested resolution and no one else supports it. Plain and simple.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jul 31, 2015 11:51:01 GMT -5
No one is saying that he's a cheating asshole; I'm certainly not. It's just a fact that having been the simmer for so long, he knows the program better than everyone else and that was highlighted by the performance his team had last season after doing his whole offload thing. I don't want to sim. I don't want to cheat. I simply want everyone to have their own knowledge of what they're doing to be on par with what Sandman's is. A way to do that is to reveal the fighter attributes to their respective GMs so that we can see and understand ourselves how to develop our fighters rather than having to ask him for "advice". They're our teams; our fighters. I mean, you don't see Dean Lombardi going to Peter Chiarelli and asking him "Hey, how should I develop Trevor Lewis?", right? It should be the same thing here. Does your health plan from work pay for therapy for you then? The bolded sentence implies that he is constantly looking at everyone's fighters attributes and then adjusting his own to beat them. It's an accusation of cheating, and I doubt he ha the mental capacity to memorize 3000 fucking stats to abuse his power on a site that he continuously claims he'd rather not win on. He's there to have fun, just as you are. The stigma behind a simmer for every sim site ever is that they have access to the files, and people think they cheat somehow through player adjustments. But without that simmer, there is no site. So you really need to give him the benefit of doubt to enjoy yourself here, or you're shit out of luck. You're fighting a losing battle with an improper suggested resolution and no one else supports it. Plain and simple. It implies nothing Mike, cuz he's not cheating. That's how you're interpreting it for yourself because you're pissed off at me. I'm not saying he memorizes any fighters cuz he couldn't possibly remember that many, and he doesn't need to; the simple understanding and knowledge of the program, and how it works, is enough. And of course he continuously claims he'd rather not win. He also took measures last of season to try and do that, but we ended up full circle with him right back at the top again with supposedly shittier fighters. What that tells me is that, with his knowledge of the program, we could almost literally give him the shittiest fighters on the program and he'd still, at the very least, manage to make the GP, and probably would finish in first again. lol He's not abusing anything; he just knows what and how to go about upgrading the fighters more than anyone else. I mean, for example, look what he did with Rumble last season. He dropped 10 points into him right off the bat and he was a fucking phenom pretty much right away. Anyone else that I've seen drop 10 points into a fighter doesn't get nearly those kind of results, including you. We really don't see those types of results unless the fighter is capped, nearly capped, or not at all. As for the stigma, yes... there's always that stigma, but that's not what this has ever been about. I'm sure it seems like it, but I assure you it isn't cuz I am giving him the benefit of the doubt; in fact even more than the benefit of the doubt. I'm not really fighting a a losing battle, cuz the reality is that you and Justin are really the only ones that are, adamantly, speaking out against it and trying to spin it as though I'm saying he's cheating, when I've said, and explained several times now, that I'm not. So to say that NO ONE else supports it, is false. Plain and simple. You and Justin don't encompass everyone.
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Post by xx - Former Bulldozers on Jul 31, 2015 12:05:13 GMT -5
The bolded sentence implies that he is constantly looking at everyone's fighters attributes and then adjusting his own to beat them. It's an accusation of cheating, and I doubt he ha the mental capacity to memorize 3000 fucking stats to abuse his power on a site that he continuously claims he'd rather not win on. He's there to have fun, just as you are. The stigma behind a simmer for every sim site ever is that they have access to the files, and people think they cheat somehow through player adjustments. But without that simmer, there is no site. So you really need to give him the benefit of doubt to enjoy yourself here, or you're shit out of luck. You're fighting a losing battle with an improper suggested resolution and no one else supports it. Plain and simple. It implies nothing Mike, cuz he's not cheating. That's how you're interpreting it for yourself because you're pissed off at me. I'm not saying he memorizes any fighters cuz he couldn't possibly remember that many, and he doesn't need to; the simple understanding and knowledge of the program, and how it works, is enough. And of course he continuously claims he'd rather not win. He also took measures last of season to try and do that, but we ended up full circle with him right back at the top again with supposedly shittier fighters. What that tells me is that, with his knowledge of the program, we could almost literally give him the shittiest fighters on the program and he'd still, at the very least, manage to make the GP, and probably would finish in first again. lol He's not abusing anything; he just knows what and how to go about upgrading the fighters more than anyone else. I mean, for example, look what he did with Rumble last season. He dropped 10 points into him right off the bat and he was a fuck ing phenom pretty much right away. Anyone else that I've seen drop 10 points into a fighter doesn't get nearly those kind of results, including you. We really don't see those types of results unless the fighter is capped, nearly capped, or not at all. As for the stigma, yes... there's always that stigma, but that's not what this has ever been about. I'm sure it seems like it, but I assure you it isn't cuz I am giving him the benefit of the doubt; in fact even more than the benefit of the doubt. I'm not really fighting a a losing battle, cuz the reality is that you and Justin are really the only ones that are, adamantly, speaking out against it and trying to spin it as though I'm saying he's cheating, when I've said, and explained several times now, that I'm not. So to say that NO ONE else supports it, is false. Plain and simple. You and Justin don't encompass everyone. *cough* *cough* Lauren Murphy *cough* *cough*
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jul 31, 2015 12:10:35 GMT -5
It implies nothing Mike, cuz he's not cheating. That's how you're interpreting it for yourself because you're pissed off at me. I'm not saying he memorizes any fighters cuz he couldn't possibly remember that many, and he doesn't need to; the simple understanding and knowledge of the program, and how it works, is enough. And of course he continuously claims he'd rather not win. He also took measures last of season to try and do that, but we ended up full circle with him right back at the top again with supposedly shittier fighters. What that tells me is that, with his knowledge of the program, we could almost literally give him the shittiest fighters on the program and he'd still, at the very least, manage to make the GP, and probably would finish in first again. lol He's not abusing anything; he just knows what and how to go about upgrading the fighters more than anyone else. I mean, for example, look what he did with Rumble last season. He dropped 10 points into him right off the bat and he was a fuck ing phenom pretty much right away. Anyone else that I've seen drop 10 points into a fighter doesn't get nearly those kind of results, including you. We really don't see those types of results unless the fighter is capped, nearly capped, or not at all. As for the stigma, yes... there's always that stigma, but that's not what this has ever been about. I'm sure it seems like it, but I assure you it isn't cuz I am giving him the benefit of the doubt; in fact even more than the benefit of the doubt. I'm not really fighting a a losing battle, cuz the reality is that you and Justin are really the only ones that are, adamantly, speaking out against it and trying to spin it as though I'm saying he's cheating, when I've said, and explained several times now, that I'm not. So to say that NO ONE else supports it, is false. Plain and simple. You and Justin don't encompass everyone. *cough* *cough* Lauren Murphy *cough* *cough* It wasn't after ten points, and she also accentuates my point about anyone he "gives advice" on, does well too bro. We all know you didn't completely pull that one off on your own. lol You didn't even know who Lauren Murphy was FFS
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Post by xx - Former Bulldozers on Jul 31, 2015 12:34:40 GMT -5
*cough* *cough* Lauren Murphy *cough* *cough* It wasn't after ten points, and she also accentuates my point about anyone he "gives advice" on, does well too bro. We all know you didn't completely pull that one off on your own. lol You didn't even know who Lauren Murphy was FFS I knew who she was that's why I chose her to be on my team.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jul 31, 2015 13:16:26 GMT -5
It wasn't after ten points, and she also accentuates my point about anyone he "gives advice" on, does well too bro. We all know you didn't completely pull that one off on your own. lol You didn't even know who Lauren Murphy was FFS I knew who she was that's why I chose her to be on my team. We both know that's not true. I remember Sandman tell me that he helped you pick you team cuz you didn't know MMA at all. lol
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Post by xx - Former Bulldozers on Jul 31, 2015 13:54:28 GMT -5
I knew who she was that's why I chose her to be on my team. We both know that's not true. I remember Sandman tell me that he helped you pick you team cuz you didn't know MMA at all. lol Not true I knew a few people including Murphy. She was the only person that I knew that was still available though, that's why I needed help.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jul 31, 2015 14:34:12 GMT -5
We both know that's not true. I remember Sandman tell me that he helped you pick you team cuz you didn't know MMA at all. lol Not true I knew a few people including Murphy. She was the only person that I knew that was still available though, that's why I needed help. Regardless, that was never the point. The advice you got from Sandman was a direct result in her becoming as good as she is... and even then it wasn't quite after only 10 points. lol
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Post by xx - Former Bulldozers on Jul 31, 2015 14:45:07 GMT -5
Not true I knew a few people including Murphy. She was the only person that I knew that was still available though, that's why I needed help. Regardless, that was never the point. The advice you got from Sandman was a direct result in her becoming as good as she is... and even then it wasn't quite after only 10 points. lol She was good before I even started upgrading her. I think it took less than 10 points before she was a beast.
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 31, 2015 14:50:32 GMT -5
We both know that's not true. I remember Sandman tell me that he helped you pick you team cuz you didn't know MMA at all. lol Not true I knew a few people including Murphy. She was the only person that I knew that was still available though, that's why I needed help. I can verify this is true. He had Murphy and I think 1 or 2 others in mind when I gave him suggestions for the rest of his team.
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 31, 2015 14:52:06 GMT -5
Not true I knew a few people including Murphy. She was the only person that I knew that was still available though, that's why I needed help. Regardless, that was never the point. The advice you got from Sandman was a direct result in her becoming as good as she is... and even then it wasn't quite after only 10 points. lol And this is not true. The advice I gave him was: "She is a wrestler, so she would benefit from takedowns, control, strength, ground game, and GnP if you want her to GnP, as well as basic defence like toughness and stamina". He upgraded Murphy and Lima - they are his fighters - his creations - based on how he wanted to develop his fighters.
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Post by xx - Former Bulldozers on Jul 31, 2015 14:55:23 GMT -5
Not true I knew a few people including Murphy. She was the only person that I knew that was still available though, that's why I needed help. I can verify this is true. He had Murphy and I think 1 or 2 others in mind when I gave him suggestions for the rest of his team. Thank you for the verification.
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Post by The Rocketmen on Jul 31, 2015 14:58:24 GMT -5
I like that Bulldozers was given the same guidance everyone else was provided on upgrading, he followed that guidance basically one fighter at a time, built two very good and moderately unstoppable fighters, and still, Sandman cheated.
No "good job Bulldozers." Nope. Somehow, someone else entirely is involved and that makes Sandman a cheater.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jul 31, 2015 16:53:21 GMT -5
I like that Bulldozers was given the same guidance everyone else was provided on upgrading, he followed that guidance basically one fighter at a time, built two very good and moderately unstoppable fighters, and still, Sandman cheated. No "good job Bulldozers." Nope. Somehow, someone else entirely is involved and that makes Sandman a cheater. Again... no one has been saying Sandman has been cheating. This is your own misguided perception. You need to remove that from your brain.
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 31, 2015 23:15:59 GMT -5
I can verify this is true. He had Murphy and I think 1 or 2 others in mind when I gave him suggestions for the rest of his team. Thank you for the verification. Glad I could help.
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