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Post by xx - The Underdog Regime on Feb 24, 2016 17:20:36 GMT -5
Andrea Lee is a fucking box head. Whoever says that she's hot is definitely looking at her through one of those mirrors at a haunted house.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Feb 24, 2016 17:52:18 GMT -5
What the fuck are you talking about? I have never once said the UFC was the only place for the best WMMA. I'm the last person on earth who thinks the UFC is the MMA be-all, end-all. According to YOUR site, the majority of the BWs and SWs that matter in the world are in the UFC. For Featherweights, Invicta has the #1, but no one for her to fight. If you think Cyborg has legit fights in Invicta, you are fooling yourself. So, yay, Invicta has atomweights . If I want to see atomweight females, I know where to go. Other then that, the talent is spread across about 6 major organizations. Just like I said in the first place. Therefore, INVICTA IS NO LONGER THE PREMIERE PLACE TO GO FOR WMMA. It is A place to go for SOME WMMA. Actually, that's all you're saying by claiming that UFC & Strikeforce are the only authority and litmus paper to determine champions as it pertains to the women. Of course most of the top BWs & SWs are in the UFC... I never once argued that point. As for the Featherweights, Cyborg has no legit fights cuz she's the best women's fighter on the planet; it doesn't matter what weight class you're talking about or what the P4P rankings say. There's no one like her in the world. You put anyone of those 3 that are ahead of her in the P4P rankings, and I guarantee you that she completely shreds them. Outside of her, Invicta has the remaining 5 of the top 10 in the world, so that's 6 total of the best featherweights on the planet. So no... you're 100% wrong about Invicta not being the premiere place to go for WMMA when they have the best fighters in 3 of the 5 weight classes. I mean, they had 8 of 10 in featherweight with Coenen & Budd, but they went to Bellator cuz no one can beat Cyborg. Which is fair, since Coenen's fought Cyborg twice and lost. It'd be reverse for those 2 if Cyborg was with Bellator and not Invicta. Don't kid yourself. The only thing that disappoints me there is that we won't get to see Cyborg vs. Budd. So yeah, you're absolutely delusional if you think Invicta isn't still the premiere place to go for WMMA man... seriously delusional. Andrea Lee is a fucking box head. Whoever says that she's hot is definitely looking at her through one of those mirrors at a haunted house. LOL Consider the source... This is Cannon who's claiming she's hot after all.
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Post by The Sandmen on Feb 24, 2016 17:59:03 GMT -5
Actually, that's all you're saying by claiming that UFC & Strikeforce are the only authority and litmus paper to determine champions as it pertains to the women. No, you are saying that, as I have not said anything about ManMMA here at all. ManMMA is entirely irrelevant to Invicta's currently sparse talent. My statement was, and remains, this, and nothing more; "When Invicta launched, they had, and were, the première WMMA organization on the planet, without equal. Now, they very much are not. Now, the majority of the best female fighters in the world fight elsewhere".
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Feb 24, 2016 18:13:02 GMT -5
Actually, that's all you're saying by claiming that UFC & Strikeforce are the only authority and litmus paper to determine champions as it pertains to the women. No, you are saying that, as I have not said anything about ManMMA here at all. ManMMA is entirely irrelevant to Invicta's currently sparse talent. My statement was, and remains, this, and nothing more; "When Invicta launched, they had, and were, the première WMMA organization on the planet, without equal. Now, they very much are not. Now, the majority of the best female fighters in the world fight elsewhere". Are you glue or just arguing for the sake of arguing? They have sparse talent in 2 weight classes out of 5 due to the UFC's affiliation with them and taking their talent in those 2 weight classes. That's hardly a majority of the best females in the world fighting elsewhere. lol It's a cross-section of it, but not a majority, making them still a première WMMA organization on the planet. They're not the only one now, but they are still up there when they still have a majority of the best female fighters on the planet on their roster, including the top fighters in each weight class outside of Bantamweight & Strawweight. So, again... you're 100% wrong.
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Post by The Rocketmen on Feb 24, 2016 18:46:55 GMT -5
lol golly gee
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Post by The Sandmen on Feb 24, 2016 18:52:25 GMT -5
Featherweights - Invicta has 6 of the top 10 - the rest are in Bellator Bantamweights - Invicta has 1 of the top 10 - the rest are in the UFC Flyweights - Invicta has 3 of the top 10. Strawweights - Invicta has 2 in the top 10 Atomweights - Invicta's strongest division - they have 6 of the top 10. Invicta doesn't even have half of the top female fighters. 'nuff said.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Feb 24, 2016 19:30:06 GMT -5
Featherweights - Invicta has 6 of the top 10 - the rest are in Bellator Bantamweights - Invicta has 1 of the top 10 - the rest are in the UFC Flyweights - Invicta has 3 of the top 10. Strawweights - Invicta has 2 in the top 10 Atomweights - Invicta's strongest division - they have 6 of the top 10. Invicta doesn't even have half of the top female fighters. 'nuff said. That's not the point at all. Look where most of them are ranked in their weight classes too. I'm talking quality, not just quantity here. When it comes to the weight classes outside bantamweight & strawweights, which have been bled dry by the UFC, Invicta still has nearly all of the best WMMA fighters in the world, save for Coenen, Budd and a few others in Deep Jewels and XFC. Period. You can argue 'til you're blue in the face and it doesn't change that fact. I love how you expand and shrink your criteria to try and make what you're saying valid though. That's very cute. lol
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Feb 24, 2016 19:40:07 GMT -5
Andrea Lee is a fucking box head. Whoever says that she's hot is definitely looking at her through one of those mirrors at a haunted house. wow i ididnt know we had two guys that preferred the company of other men here
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Feb 24, 2016 20:52:25 GMT -5
Andrea Lee is a fucking box head. Whoever says that she's hot is definitely looking at her through one of those mirrors at a haunted house. wow i ididnt know we had two guys that preferred the company of other men here Well, atleast you admit it now Cannon. First step towards freedom... Atta boy. #BabySteps
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Feb 24, 2016 20:53:17 GMT -5
So yeah, you're absolutely delusional if you think Invicta isn't still the premiere place to go for WMMA man... seriously delusional. Andrea Lee is a fucking box head. Whoever says that she's hot is definitely looking at her through one of those mirrors at a haunted house. LOL Consider the source... This is Cannon who's claiming she's hot after all. [/quote] well phx u find dalelio prolly attractive she got beat with the troll stick too much to be attractive
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Feb 24, 2016 20:54:38 GMT -5
wow i ididnt know we had two guys that preferred the company of other men here Well, atleast you admit it now Cannon. First step towards freedom... Atta boy. #BabySteps iui was talking bout byron and under dogs posiibly you if u like that man dalelio
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Post by The Sandmen on Feb 24, 2016 21:36:44 GMT -5
Invicta doesn't even have half of the top female fighters. 'nuff said. That's not the point at all. Look where most of them are ranked in their weight classes too. I'm talking quality, not just quantity here. When it comes to the weight classes outside bantamweight & strawweights, which have been bled dry by the UFC, Invicta still has nearly all of the best WMMA fighters in the world, save for Coenen, Budd and a few others in Deep Jewels and XFC. Period. You can argue 'til you're blue in the face and it doesn't change that fact. I love how you expand and shrink your criteria to try and make what you're saying valid though. That's very cute. lol Argue with me until you are blue in the balls all you want - fact remains you don't even have to look much further than Invicta itself to see my point. The company went from a PPV company to a "free with purchase of UFC" company. That's maintaining quality? I guess I can see why you love D'Alelio, and her 1-4 record over the past 3 years, lol. I guess when you love mediocrity, you thrive upon it. Others, well, we have much higher standards. Again, that's why Invicta went from an independent PPV company to a free add-on to Uncle Dana's product. (lol, it really does make me LOL that you can look at Invicta 1-3 and say Invicta 14-16 are just as good.)
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Feb 24, 2016 21:45:16 GMT -5
lol he only likes d'alelio cus she looks like him a tranny troll thats it thats all
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Feb 24, 2016 23:45:29 GMT -5
That's not the point at all. Look where most of them are ranked in their weight classes too. I'm talking quality, not just quantity here. When it comes to the weight classes outside bantamweight & strawweights, which have been bled dry by the UFC, Invicta still has nearly all of the best WMMA fighters in the world, save for Coenen, Budd and a few others in Deep Jewels and XFC. Period. You can argue 'til you're blue in the face and it doesn't change that fact. I love how you expand and shrink your criteria to try and make what you're saying valid though. That's very cute. lol Argue with me until you are blue in the balls all you want - fact remains you don't even have to look much further than Invicta itself to see my point. The company went from a PPV company to a "free with purchase of UFC" company. That's maintaining quality? I guess I can see why you love D'Alelio, and her 1-4 record over the past 3 years, lol. I guess when you love mediocrity, you thrive upon it. Others, well, we have much higher standards. Again, that's why Invicta went from an independent PPV company to a free add-on to Uncle Dana's product. (lol, it really does make me LOL that you can look at Invicta 1-3 and say Invicta 14-16 are just as good.) Less fights due to less bantamweights and straweights, sure... and I will concede that this card for 16 is better than 14 & 15 were for sure.... But the quality of fights and fighters hasn't diminished in the other weight classes, save for the departures of Coenen & Budd at featherweight, and a couple that moved to bantamweight or strawweight to go to UFC, (ie. Smith), it's all the same gals fighting for the company in featherwight, flyweight & atomweight that there were before, plus some new ones that left along with of course new bantamweights & strawweights they had to recruit. There's nothing mediocre about Invicta for a real fan of WMMA, which you claim to be, but clearly aren't because of your bullshit "high standards" that are non-existent for what you're talking about. I agree that the deal with UFC should've been a lot better than it was. What was supposed to be a simple exposure deal turned into Dana being the greedy fuck he always is. lol It does surprise me that the product is a free add-on for getting UFC Fight Pass though, being I don't have Fight Pass, I wouldn't know, but I can't imagine that Shannon's not getting any kick back money on that though either.
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Post by The Sandmen on Feb 25, 2016 0:43:01 GMT -5
Justin: States opinion. Kruze: Disagrees. Justin: States why he holds opinion. Kruze: Disagrees. Moral: I am entitled to my opinion. You do not have to like it, you do not have to agree with it, but it would be cool if you stopped trying to argue with me about why I feel the product is crap now compared to several years ago. Thanks.
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