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Post by xx - Former Bulldozers on Jun 5, 2017 14:28:29 GMT -5
He offered Edgar first then Huerta but I'd rather Dillashaw since I can upgrade him into something good. If I was gonna move Dillashaw, especially after how you guys were talking about him, it was gonna be for an immediate upgrade to my roster.
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Post by xx - The King's Poison on Jun 5, 2017 14:30:42 GMT -5
So you took someone of high value when you could have taken a middle value fighter instead? Did he offer anyone else or just say take who you want? I offered Frankie Edgar and Roger Huerta, but he wasnt interested in either of them. He only wanted Hansen. Hansen lost to shitty Cody Garbrandt so he cant be that good. Shut up and deal with it. It doesnt effect you |
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Post by xx - The King's Poison on Jun 5, 2017 14:31:31 GMT -5
He offered Edgar first then Huerta but I'd rather Dillashaw since I can upgrade him into something good. If I was gonna move Dillashaw, especially after how you guys were talking about him, it was gonna be for an immediate upgrade to my roster. Roger Huerta is ranked though... |
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Post by xx - Former Bulldozers on Jun 5, 2017 14:34:54 GMT -5
He offered Edgar first then Huerta but I'd rather Dillashaw since I can upgrade him into something good. If I was gonna move Dillashaw, especially after how you guys were talking about him, it was gonna be for an immediate upgrade to my roster. Roger Huerta is ranked though... How would I know that? I saw Hansen had the best record out of the 3 lmao |
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Post by xx - The King's Poison on Jun 5, 2017 14:35:29 GMT -5
It's ok, anyone that Garbrandt beats is of no interest of mine.
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Post by xx - Former Bulldozers on Jun 5, 2017 14:35:50 GMT -5
So you took someone of high value when you could have taken a middle value fighter instead? Did he offer anyone else or just say take who you want? I offered Frankie Edgar and Roger Huerta, but he wasnt interested in either of them. He only wanted Hansen. Hansen lost to shitty Cody Garbrandt so he cant be that good. Shut up and deal with it. It doesnt effect you It effects him cause he's scared my team will be better than his  |
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Jun 5, 2017 14:38:18 GMT -5
It's ok, anyone that Garbrandt beats is of no interest of mine. Cody could literally beat any LW you have. |
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Jun 5, 2017 14:39:41 GMT -5
I offered Frankie Edgar and Roger Huerta, but he wasnt interested in either of them. He only wanted Hansen. Hansen lost to shitty Cody Garbrandt so he cant be that good. Shut up and deal with it. It doesnt effect you It effects him cause he's scared my team will be better than his Lmfao my LWs alone are better than yours with and without Hansen. The only thing you have an edge over me with is FFs |
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Post by xx - Former Bulldozers on Jun 5, 2017 14:53:42 GMT -5
It effects him cause he's scared my team will be better than his Lmfao my LWs alone are better than yours with and without Hansen. The only thing you have an edge over me with is FFs My LWs now are Hansen, Chandler, and Dodson. I think they're better. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Jun 5, 2017 15:00:51 GMT -5
Here's the thing. Objectively, Bulldozers is probably brutalizing KP in this trade. Hansen is 55-25 on a site where having a winning record at all means you are probably good, and having a winning record after 45 fights probably means you are elite. Hansen also has the second-most LW title defences in ManMMA history (with 12). Hansen is a C-Ranked, 83 overall, capped fighter. Dillashaw is a slightly-below-average rookie here (with a record of 10-18-1). He is a C-Ranked, 83-cap fighter. It will take between 30-37 points to upgrade him to the level Hansen is at right now. IF he is upgraded well. (As with anyone, if he is upgraded better, he will be better than Hansen before that. If he is upgraded worse, he will not be better than Hansen at all). 6 points is a decent throw-in in any trade. The 1st round pick's value depends greatly on what you plan on doing with it. ANY drafted fighter is going to need major work. Also, I want to make sure KP knows that based on his current roster size (he is at the roster limit right now), he would have to swap someone to take advantage of that draft pick. Otherwise, it's probably just worth 1 point. BUT... While anyone can be upgraded, changed, fine-tuned, tweaked, etc., name-value is entirely unique. Even if he loses every fight, there is still only 1 "Anderson Silva" or "Georges St-Pierre" on the site. So when you are after a NAME you really want, you are kind of at the mercy of the person who has that fighter. And if that name is worth the set price to you, it's not like ManMMA, our members, or our staff, can give you anything to replace it. I mean, there was a time I offered Gina Carnano (90-17) for Julie Kedzie (20-38) on this site. These types of crap trades will happen. But since a name is irreplacable, I don't think it is up to me to overrule trades to acquire those names if they are of interest to you. Can King's Poison turn Dillashaw into Hansen? Yes, he can. Can he do it with what is offered here? Absolutely not. It's going to be a long journey (which I expect he will give up on, since the way he and Austin go at it, Dillashaw will fight Cody long before he is ready, lose, then Poison will drop Dillashaw, haha) Moral: I agree with The Texas Rattlesnakes, but as long as xx - The King's Poison understands what i have said here (especially about the draft pick), *likes* or quotes this post to confirm that he has read it, I am not going to step in and overrule the trade. |
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Post by xx - The King's Poison on Jun 5, 2017 15:35:35 GMT -5
Here's the thing. Objectively, Bulldozers is probably brutalizing KP in this trade. Hansen is 55-25 on a site where having a winning record at all means you are probably good, and having a winning record after 45 fights probably means you are elite. Hansen also has the second-most LW title defences in ManMMA history (with 12). Hansen is a C-Ranked, 83 overall, capped fighter. Dillashaw is a slightly-below-average rookie here (with a record of 10-18-1). He is a C-Ranked, 83-cap fighter. It will take between 30-37 points to upgrade him to the level Hansen is at right now. IF he is upgraded well. (As with anyone, if he is upgraded better, he will be better than Hansen before that. If he is upgraded worse, he will not be better than Hansen at all). 6 points is a decent throw-in in any trade. The 1st round pick's value depends greatly on what you plan on doing with it. ANY drafted fighter is going to need major work. Also, I want to make sure KP knows that based on his current roster size (he is at the roster limit right now), he would have to swap someone to take advantage of that draft pick. Otherwise, it's probably just worth 1 point. BUT... While anyone can be upgraded, changed, fine-tuned, tweaked, etc., name-value is entirely unique. Even if he loses every fight, there is still only 1 "Anderson Silva" or "Georges St-Pierre" on the site. So when you are after a NAME you really want, you are kind of at the mercy of the person who has that fighter. And if that name is worth the set price to you, it's not like ManMMA, our members, or our staff, can give you anything to replace it. I mean, there was a time I offered Gina Carnano (90-17) for Julie Kedzie (20-38) on this site. These types of crap trades will happen. But since a name is irreplacable, I don't think it is up to me to overrule trades to acquire those names if they are of interest to you. Can King's Poison turn Dillashaw into Hansen? Yes, he can. Can he do it with what is offered here? Absolutely not. It's going to be a long journey (which I expect he will give up on, since the way he and Austin go at it, Dillashaw will fight Cody long before he is ready, lose, then Poison will drop Dillashaw, haha) Moral: I agree with The Texas Rattlesnakes , but as long as xx - The King's Poison understands what i have said here (especially about the draft pick), *likes* or quotes this post to confirm that he has read it, I am not going to step in and overrule the trade. Hmm... I do want Dillashaw but not if Hansen is really that good. Can we put this trade on hold? If Joachim loses against Cody in there rematch then I'll follow through with it, if not I want to keep him. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Jun 5, 2017 15:57:40 GMT -5
Hmm... I do want Dillashaw but not if Hansen is really that good. Can we put this trade on hold? If Joachim loses against Cody in there rematch then I'll follow through with it, if not I want to keep him. K. I'll make life simple and add that rematch to the current card so all involved in this trade know what is going on sooner, rather than later. |
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Post by xx - Former Bulldozers on Jun 5, 2017 16:01:46 GMT -5
Hmm... I do want Dillashaw but not if Hansen is really that good. Can we put this trade on hold? If Joachim loses against Cody in there rematch then I'll follow through with it, if not I want to keep him. K. I'll make life simple and add that rematch to the current card so all involved in this trade know what is going on sooner, rather than later. Thank you |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Jun 5, 2017 18:43:21 GMT -5
yay a fair ending!
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jun 8, 2017 0:36:32 GMT -5
To Canadian Bulldozers Joachim Hansen To Me T.J. Dillashaw 6 Points 1st Round Draft Pick This is bad. May have gone through already... Don't care. Just giving my 2 cents here, and without reading any of the shit here either. Just going off of the trade... xx - Former Bulldozers... You're a piece of shit! (Yes, that's Kruzer jargon... Ooo I called you names... Bite Me!) Hansen's easily of GSP caliber in ManMMA, and more titles... you're fucking fleecing a rookie here. GSP got 10 points. You know better! You Suck! |
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Have 9 points in celebration of this monumental achievement!