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Post by The Sandmen on Oct 23, 2018 15:03:33 GMT -5
 October 23, 2018 Bell Centre (Montreal, Quebec)Middleweight Championship
 Anthony Johnson (42-16) vs.  Diego Sanchez (59-43)Winner is Anthony Johnson by KO (Punches) at 2:18 Round 1 Flyweight Championship
Michelle Waterson (28-26) vs.  Joanna Jedrzejczyk (47-9)Winner is Michelle Waterson by KO (Punch) at 2:13 Round 1 Lightweight #1 Contender Bout
 Jens Pulver (22-20) vs.  Max Holloway (5-3)Winner is Jens Pulver by TKO (GnP) at 1:13 Round 2 Heavyweight Tournament Semi-Finals
 Mark Hunt (15-13) vs.  Fedor Emelianenko (45-51)Winner is Mark Hunt by KO (High kick) at 2:59 Round 1 Josh Barnett (27-44-1) vs. Shogun Rua (67-48)
Winner is Shogun Rua by Split decision Bantamweight Tournament Semi-Finals
Valentina Shevchenko (13-9) vs.  Rin Nakai (61-54)Winner is Rin Nakai by Submission (Rear Naked Choke) at 3:00 Round 2 Erin Toughill (42-45) vs. Germaine de Randamie (8-5)
Winner is Germaine de Randamie by KO (Knee) at 3:44 Round 1 Bantamweight Bout
Ronda Rousey (72-41-1) vs.  Julie Kedzie (28-42)Winner is Ronda Rousey by Split decision Middleweight Bout
Johny Hendricks (15-21) vs. Rich Franklin (63-49)Winner is Rich Franklin by KO (Punches) at 3:37 Round 2 Lightweight Bout
 Jose Aldo (56-48) vs. Urijah Faber (47-44)Winner is Jose Aldo by KO (Punch) at 1:21 Round 3 Heavyweight Bout
Forrest Griffin (57-47) vs. Rashad Evans (45-47)Winner is Rashad Evans by TKO (Stoppage - Swollen Eye) at 4:22 Round 1 Heavyweight Bout
Tito Ortiz (43-48) vs. Dan Henderson (65-56-1)Winner is Tito Ortiz by TKO (Elbows) at 4:26 Round 1 Heavyweight Bout
Bob Sapp (7-10) vs. Travis Browne (35-38)Winner is Travis Browne by TKO (GnP) at 4:45 Round 1 Lightweight Bout
Mike Brown (27-37) vs. Roger Huerta (35-31)Winner is Roger Huerta by KO (GnP) at 2:53 Round 3 Middleweight Bout
Ronaldo Souza (7-11) vs. Yoel Romero (7-11)Winner is Yoel Romero by TKO (Elbows) at 2:13 Round 3 Bantamweight Bout
Tonya Evinger (15-13-1) vs. Megan Anderson (4-4)Winner is Megan Anderson by KO (Punch) at 2:51 Round 1 Flyweight Bout
Katja Kankaanpää (8-12) vs. Tecia Torres (14-15)Winner is Tecia Torres by Split decision Flyweight Bout
Mackenzie Dern (2-6) vs. Andrea Lee (8-11)Winner is Mackenzie Dern by Submission (North South Choke) at 0:34 Round 1 BonusesFight of the Night: Rousey vs. Kedzie KO of the Night: Germaine de Randamie Submission of the Night: Mackenzie Dern StatisticsAttendance: 21,700 (100%) Buy Rate: 4,509,504 |
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Post by The Sandmen on Oct 23, 2018 15:03:42 GMT -5
Rattlesnakes - 11
Poison - 9
Byron - 11
Phoenix - 8
Sandmen - 11
+1 Rattlesnakes, Byron, Sandmen (Prediction)
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Post by xx - Team GAP on Oct 23, 2018 21:46:02 GMT -5
2/5 = not good.
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Oct 23, 2018 22:00:03 GMT -5
how yall get points copying rattlesnakes when i dont
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Oct 23, 2018 22:14:29 GMT -5
how yall get points copying rattlesnakes when i dont Sandmen didnt copy me, but Byron did. And I've been instructed to ignore that; however, it's still annoying to me. |
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Oct 23, 2018 22:16:24 GMT -5
how yall get points copying rattlesnakes when i dont Sandmen didnt copy me, but Byron did. And I've been instructed to ignore that; however, it's still annoying to me. great than ill be bax predicting |
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Post by xx - Team GAP on Oct 24, 2018 10:19:19 GMT -5
but still a better performance than what phoenix thought id give. |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Oct 24, 2018 14:14:30 GMT -5
how yall get points copying rattlesnakes when i dont Sandmen didnt copy me, but Byron did. And I've been instructed to ignore that; however, it's still annoying to me. Byron used to copy me all the time too, as did Ducks, and I was told the same thing by Samdmen as well. It's just kind of shitty that Byron's allowed to get away with it all the time but others, like Normand, have been penalized for it, when they don't even do it all the time. That actually annoys me just as much as the folks doing the copying of predictions. lol |
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Post by The Sandmen on Oct 24, 2018 15:30:48 GMT -5
Byron, just like Cannon, has been strongly encouraged to make his own predictions, and if he must copy predictions, to change some. Just like I told Cannon. In this case, I actually read Byron's prediction as a troll to Rattlesnakes for yelling at people to predict, as he copied that as well and excluded nothing from the copied post in his prediction. But that being said, I have real work for you guys then. Since you all have more experience running ManMMA than I do, help me with this problem of prediction copying. Here are the bases we must cover: 1) Except when obvious like this time, you cannot prove beyond a doubt that someone copied someone else. (We just had a case recently where 2 people who definitely did not copy had the exact same predictions in fact). 2) ManMMA is not a first-predict, first-dibs on predictions, so we cannot discount the second prediction and assume it is just copied. Do we discount both predictions? 3) If we did private predictions, someone would have to be excluded from predicting. Not only that, that person would have to be The Texas Rattlesnakes, as he is the one who tabulates predictions, thus he would be the one who would need to recieve them in his inbox 4) Public predictions lead to additional activity, banter, trash talk, etc, which is good for the site. 5) As was said in post 1, and is paramount, so I will repost here, you can not prove for a fact someone copied someone else. So help me out here, xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club and other critics. You don't like how its done, so let's fix it. I am all ears, as what we have is the best I have been able to come up with. |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Oct 24, 2018 17:26:04 GMT -5
Instead of predicting, teams get a point for whether or not their fighters won the most fights that night.
The rich get richer, the poor get poorer.
And then when we all say that is also stupid and doesn't work, we can instead turn to something more fair and even handed, like a guessing game and whoever guesses the closest wins.
We could call it something stupid too, like we're psychic for knowing something we clearly don't.
So either a "seeing" yeah, let's calculate seeing points. No that's stupid.
Let's change the name to a predictor. It has a good ring to it and sounds like a superhero. The Predictor vs. The Punisher.
All in favor of this new process?
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Oct 24, 2018 21:52:43 GMT -5
Instead of predicting, teams get a point for whether or not their fighters won the most fights that night. The rich get richer, the poor get poorer. And then when we all say that is also stupid and doesn't work, we can instead turn to something more fair and even handed, like a guessing game and whoever guesses the closest wins. We could call it something stupid too, like we're psychic for knowing something we clearly don't. So either a "seeing" yeah, let's calculate seeing points. No that's stupid. Let's change the name to a predictor. It has a good ring to it and sounds like a superhero. The Predictor vs. The Punisher. All in favor of this new process? Aye |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Oct 25, 2018 12:29:48 GMT -5
@ The Sandmen: Honestly, part of the bigger problem here was eluded to in your first paragraph that you view Byron copying predictions as a troll. Well, trolling is the biggest issue on this site because it's condoned, actively participated in, and, often times, even perpetuated, by administration & senior staff on the site. (See Rocketmen's response above or Sandmen's backhanded comment "Since you all have more experience running ManMMA than I do".)We're all here to have fun, but, unfortunately, there are those on the site that find it fun to try to make others miserable and it's masked as "trash talk", but there is a difference between trash talking and trolling though too. I understand that it's impossible to completely eradicate trolling, but at the same time maybe a culture change towards it, that's participated in by at least a majority of members, starting with administration & senior staff on down, is what's needed here. Why not hit the source of the actual issue than just put a band-aid on a small part of it and wait for it to inevitably fall off? |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Oct 25, 2018 14:16:04 GMT -5
Your team sucks.  |
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Post by The Sandmen on Oct 25, 2018 15:04:18 GMT -5
@ The Sandmen: Honestly, part of the bigger problem here was eluded to in your first paragraph that you view Byron copying predictions as a troll. Well, trolling is the biggest issue on this site because it's condoned, actively participated in, and, often times, even perpetuated, by administration & senior staff on the site. (See Rocketmen's response above or Sandmen's backhanded comment "Since you all have more experience running ManMMA than I do".)We're all here to have fun, but, unfortunately, there are those on the site that find it fun to try to make others miserable and it's masked as "trash talk", but there is a difference between trash talking and trolling though too. I understand that it's impossible to completely eradicate trolling, but at the same time maybe a culture change towards it, that's participated in by at least a majority of members, starting with administration & senior staff on down, is what's needed here. Why not hit the source of the actual issue than just put a band-aid on a small part of it and wait for it to inevitably fall off? You misread what I said. I viewed THIS prediction-copy by Byron as a troll (see his "prediction" and you will see what I mean). I don't want to turn this into a thing about Trolling - which is an even bigger, more complicated issue whcih we can discuss separately if you want - this is supposed to be about how to solve the "Predictor Copying" problem. Let's solve one problem per thread. We can deal with trolling as well, but lets do it in a new thread. (And let's come up with solutions that don't involve labelling every post anyone makes as a troll, since some people here think even if you mention the colour of their fighters hair, you are trolling them personally). |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Oct 25, 2018 15:23:38 GMT -5
Trolling is at the root of the predictor copying issue though, is it not? I do know that was Ducks motive behind his copying of mine, when he did it, because he knew it bothered me, and, to an extent, Byron at points as well, I'm sure.
The predictor itself is fine as it is and has worked since it's inception. That's not the problem. I firmly believe it's folks trolling others that is real problem.
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Have 9 points in celebration of this monumental achievement!