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Post by The Mighty Ducks on Sept 10, 2019 17:27:15 GMT -5
omg that lik e totly wuld be 😂😂😂🤣😅☺️😆
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Post by The Sandmen on Sept 10, 2019 17:47:39 GMT -5
It'd be like me telling you that I know more about Anderson Silva's progression & dominance than you do. lol That'd be totally ridiculous. 😂😂😂 I do actually trust Austin's assessment of my fighters more than my own, based on how much time he puts into research for his predictions and such. That would be especially true if I were gone for half a year, and he was not. |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Sept 10, 2019 19:04:40 GMT -5
It'd be like me telling you that I know more about Anderson Silva's progression & dominance than you do. lol That'd be totally ridiculous. 😂😂😂 I do actually trust Austin's assessment of my fighters more than my own, based on how much time he puts into research for his predictions and such. That would be especially true if I were gone for half a year, and he was not. Good for you... That's you. 👍 Once again, you've completely missed my point, as usual.  I was trying to give you a sense of where I'm comimg from. And for me, it'd be like ME telling you. I don't give a shit if you'd trust his assessment or not. That wasn't my point, nor should I be shit on for voicing my own experience with a particular fighter that I had for that many seasons, before he even got here. As I said, and what I meant was, I wouldn't presume to say I know the ins and outs of anyone else's fighters other than my own, and the ones that I actually had for more than a season or 3 that I worked on myself and saw their patterns, firsthand, and in the moment. He doesn't have to agree with me, just don't sit there and shit on people's experience either. You can disagree without doing that. |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Sept 10, 2019 19:06:43 GMT -5
omg that lik e totly wuld be 😂😂😂🤣😅☺️😆 I know right? 😂😂😂 |
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Sept 10, 2019 19:19:15 GMT -5
I do actually trust Austin's assessment of my fighters more than my own, based on how much time he puts into research for his predictions and such. That would be especially true if I were gone for half a year, and he was not. Good for you... That's you. 👍 Once again, you've completely missed my point, as usual. I was trying to give you a sense of where I'm comimg from. And for me, it'd be like ME telling you. I don't give a shit if you'd trust his assessment or not. That wasn't my point, nor should I be shit on for voicing my own experience with a particular fighter that I had for that many seasons, before he even got here. As I said, and what I meant was, I wouldn't presume to say I know the ins and outs of anyone else's fighters other than my own, and the ones that I actually had for more than a season or 3 that I worked on myself and saw their patterns, firsthand, and in the moment. He doesn't have to agree with me, just don't sit there and shit on people's experience either. You can disagree without doing that. At what point was someone shitting on you? I didn't see any shitting on. I think you're getting the wrong idea by comments here. Nobody thinks you didn't do a lot of work on Brock. You did, but imagine you acquire a fighter, make them better and someone else claims responsibility for why they're good. Nobody is shitting on anyone. |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Sept 10, 2019 21:20:04 GMT -5
Good for you... That's you. 👍 Once again, you've completely missed my point, as usual. I was trying to give you a sense of where I'm comimg from. And for me, it'd be like ME telling you. I don't give a shit if you'd trust his assessment or not. That wasn't my point, nor should I be shit on for voicing my own experience with a particular fighter that I had for that many seasons, before he even got here. As I said, and what I meant was, I wouldn't presume to say I know the ins and outs of anyone else's fighters other than my own, and the ones that I actually had for more than a season or 3 that I worked on myself and saw their patterns, firsthand, and in the moment. He doesn't have to agree with me, just don't sit there and shit on people's experience either. You can disagree without doing that. At what point was someone shitting on you? I didn't see any shitting on. I think you're getting the wrong idea by comments here. Nobody thinks you didn't do a lot of work on Brock. You did, but imagine you acquire a fighter, make them better and someone else claims responsibility for why they're good. Nobody is shitting on anyone. The foundation was there... And who did that? Me. Same with Tim Sylvia & Dominick Cruz, for that matter. It's like if I make tweaks to Calderwood now, and she becomes champion or gets to that "next level". I can't take the credit for it. That was "he who cannot be named right now" that did that. All I'd be doing is making adjustments to the foundation he created, unless I completely drained that fighter of points, and started over from scratch. Then you folks come in here and tell me I basically know nothing about a specific fighter that I completely upgraded & tweaked myself for 12-13 seasons since upgrades came into place, and was only talking about that particular period of time, I might add. So tell me...How is that not shitting my experience exactly? I was there. I saw it. Lesnar started falling off a bit just before the suspension because more fighters were getting better around him and caught up to him. I tweaked him a bit, then he got suspended, without being able to be tweaked during that period, and it got worse. By the time he returned, even more fighters had caught up or passed him in terms of fine tuning. So, yeah... He fell behind a bit. It was something I was going to work on, but didn't get the opportunity. That's just the way it went down. |
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Sept 10, 2019 21:23:50 GMT -5
At what point was someone shitting on you? I didn't see any shitting on. I think you're getting the wrong idea by comments here. Nobody thinks you didn't do a lot of work on Brock. You did, but imagine you acquire a fighter, make them better and someone else claims responsibility for why they're good. Nobody is shitting on anyone. The foundation was there... And who did that? Me. Same with Tim Sylvia & Dominick Cruz, for that matter. It's like if I make tweaks to Calderwood now, and she becomes champion or gets to that "next level". I can't take the credit for it. That was "he who cannot be named right now" that did that. All I'd be doing is making adjustments to the foundation he created, unless I completely drained that fighter of points, and started over from scratch. Then you folks come in here and tell me I basically know nothing about a specific fighter that I completely upgraded & tweaked myself for 12-13 seasons since upgrades came into place, and was only talking about that particular period of time, I might add. So tell me...How is that not shitting my experience exactly? I was there. I saw it. Lesnar started falling off a bit just before the suspension because more fighters were getting better around him and caught up to him. I tweaked him a bit, then he got suspended, without being able to be tweaked during that period, and it got worse. By the time he returned, even more fighters had caught up or passed him in terms of fine tuning. So, yeah... He fell behind a bit. It was something I was going to work on, but didn't get the opportunity. That's just the way it went down. You could take credit actually for getting someone to the next level. Where did anyone say you know nothing? |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Sept 10, 2019 21:55:05 GMT -5
The foundation was there... And who did that? Me. Same with Tim Sylvia & Dominick Cruz, for that matter. It's like if I make tweaks to Calderwood now, and she becomes champion or gets to that "next level". I can't take the credit for it. That was "he who cannot be named right now" that did that. All I'd be doing is making adjustments to the foundation he created, unless I completely drained that fighter of points, and started over from scratch. Then you folks come in here and tell me I basically know nothing about a specific fighter that I completely upgraded & tweaked myself for 12-13 seasons since upgrades came into place, and was only talking about that particular period of time, I might add. So tell me...How is that not shitting my experience exactly? I was there. I saw it. Lesnar started falling off a bit just before the suspension because more fighters were getting better around him and caught up to him. I tweaked him a bit, then he got suspended, without being able to be tweaked during that period, and it got worse. By the time he returned, even more fighters had caught up or passed him in terms of fine tuning. So, yeah... He fell behind a bit. It was something I was going to work on, but didn't get the opportunity. That's just the way it went down. You could take credit actually for getting someone to the next level. Where did anyone say you know nothing? Only partly, in my opinion, cuz you really didn't do any of the grunt work to get the fighter that far in the first place; you're just reaping the benefits of the work put into them already. It's the way you guys put things. And the thing is... Brock was next level until the rest of the pack caught up. Fighters that aren't next level don't generally win titles, and, if they do, they can't defend them worth shit. lol Nor do non-next level fighters have the number of other top tier fighters basically every time they fight. Brock's already ticked all those boxes as being a next level fighter at one time, at least twice, prior to Byron getting him. That's not to say Byron hasn't got him back up there either. So, just by saying that I didn't get him there at all, is shitting on my experience and claiming I know nothing or somehow don't know what I'm talking about... When clearly that's not true. |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Sept 10, 2019 22:09:26 GMT -5
And the thing is, what I'm chalking it up to here, with you in this instance, is like the NHL debate of performance vs. analytics.
Neither are wrong; they're just different ways of getting to a destination.
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Post by Lord Byron's Conquistadors on Sept 10, 2019 22:33:30 GMT -5
The foundation was there... And who did that? Me. Same with Tim Sylvia & Dominick Cruz, for that matter. no. it was the first thing I did was fix his broken foundation and he was immediately doin better. please stop somehow trying to take credit for lesnar??? also why would you be on about all this and accusing me of not doing anything with brock when I was just talkin to you about thinkin about trading brock back to you?????? shootin yourself in the foot is what that is again I don't get you. these small fights keep making you lose the big wins like getting brock back or somethin. can someone teach this guy how to pick his battles? he be happier for sure. |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Sept 10, 2019 22:40:51 GMT -5
The West Coast KnockoutsLook at what you did! This is all because you made Tonya Evinger amazing. You just couldn’t leave well enough alone could you? lol
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Sept 10, 2019 23:16:25 GMT -5
The foundation was there... And who did that? Me. Same with Tim Sylvia & Dominick Cruz, for that matter. no. it was the first thing I did was fix his broken foundation and he was immediately doin better. please stop somehow trying to take credit for lesnar??? also why would you be on about all this and accusing me of not doing anything with brock when I was just talkin to you about thinkin about trading brock back to you?????? shootin yourself in the foot is what that is again I don't get you. these small fights keep making you lose the big wins like getting brock back or somethin. can someone teach this guy how to pick his battles? he be happier for sure. 1) I didn't accuse you of not doing anything with Brock. I dunno where you got that from. You tweaked Brock and brought him back up to speed. Nothing wrong with that. I would've done it myself if I'd had the opportunity. 2) You were all talk; no action, about trading Brock back to me, and weren't going to anyways, based on your most recent response to me. It was just a dangling carrot on a string that you suggested you would trade him back to me, then you pulled it away, even before this discussion came about. lol Now you're saying it was still an option cuz you think I said something I didn't. So no... I didn't shoot myself in the foot at all. You ceased the talks of trading Brock back to all on your own and somehow got the bright idea that I said that you hadn't done anything with Brock in this discussion, not a fight. If it were a fight, it'd be a helluva lot more intense than this. 😂😂 3) There was no beef with you here at all... So I dunno what you're on about man. I really don't. Maybe you should chill out a bit yourself and stop assuming things about me, much like you did in our PMs too. |
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Post by Lord Byron's Conquistadors on Sept 11, 2019 0:32:23 GMT -5
no friend. TWO TIMES I told you you could have mike brown for anything and to just post the trade. the first time instead of posting it you asked for ken shamrock too and then the second time you said the carrot shit about brock. WE WERENT EVEN TALKIN BOUT BROCK WE WERE TRYING TO GIVE YOU MIKE BROWN FOR WHATEVER YOU WANTED TO GIVE ME. I never had to work so hard to try to GIVE people fighters they like before. is crazy!!!
so yes you are the reason 100% that you shoot yourself in the foot and why I might give up trading with you especially brock who I am probably trading to someone. you make it impossible to give you things its so strange. I have to actually literally beg you to post the trade you wanted to make that I don't care about ill never understand it.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Sept 11, 2019 3:11:15 GMT -5
no friend. TWO TIMES I told you you could have mike brown for anything and to just post the trade. the first time instead of posting it you asked for ken shamrock too and then the second time you said the carrot shit about brock. WE WERENT EVEN TALKIN BOUT BROCK WE WERE TRYING TO GIVE YOU MIKE BROWN FOR WHATEVER YOU WANTED TO GIVE ME. I never had to work so hard to try to GIVE people fighters they like before. is crazy!!! so yes you are the reason 100% that you shoot yourself in the foot and why I might give up trading with you especially brock who I am probably trading to someone. you make it impossible to give you things its so strange. I have to actually literally beg you to post the trade you wanted to make that I don't care about ill never understand it. Go back and read the entire exchange in your PM box there Byron. You said clearly that your were wanting to possibly trade Brock back to me as well but failed to mention any sort of return 3 times... all you were on about was how I felt like I was handcuffed by being restricted to a 12 fighter roster for this season. I kept asking again about Brock, and you kept changing the subject after mentioning you were wanting to work something out for him too. We already had discussed and agreed to Griffin for Brown. There's no use in posting 2 or 3 different transactions between the same two teams when you're already discussing more things. You're not new to this man. So if you feel I shot myself in the foot, for doing nothing you're accusing me of, then that IS on you, not me. You've been suspicious of me almost right from the get go Byron... When all I did was inquire about possibly acquiring Shamrock cuz I didn't think Brock would be possible until you said you'd be willing to move him. But why should I expect any different from you? Wishful thinking I guess... It's too bad man. I really don't know what the fuck your problem is... I honestly don't. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Sept 11, 2019 3:26:09 GMT -5
Solid performance by Evinger here in this fight. I look forward to seeing what she can do against higher-level competition.
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I was trying to give you a sense of where I'm comimg from. And for me, it'd be like ME telling you. I don't give a shit if you'd trust his assessment or not. That wasn't my point, nor should I be shit on for voicing my own experience with a particular fighter that I had for that many seasons, before he even got here. 
Have 9 points in celebration of this monumental achievement!