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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Oct 11, 2019 6:33:00 GMT -5
I know we haven't been doing it the entire time, but I suggest a new appeal for decisions. Some decisions are just bad and we can all tell. Unless the damage is a huge difference, I suggest we implement a new system where we can place a fight "Under Review" and maybe each team gets a "Under Review Flag" per season that they can only use once, and then ManMMA can look at the stoppage, either change the ruling or have an instant rematch. What do you guys think?
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Oct 11, 2019 8:39:58 GMT -5
Maybe a one use thing wouldn't be so bad, but, ultimately, I think it's a waste of time. Fighters are getting better, and more evenly matched; just look at the number of capped fighters and the number of decisions this last card.
It's like being at the polar opposite of the spectrum of something like ML, where everyone's shitty and you get more decisions cuz everyone isn't that good, whereas, in the regular league, everyone's getting so good, you see more & more decisions rather than finishes cuz it's come full circle again with a lot of fighters being dead even again.
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Oct 11, 2019 9:07:19 GMT -5
Maybe a one use thing wouldn't be so bad, but, ultimately, I think it's a waste of time. Fighters are getting better, and more evenly matched; just look at the number of capped fighters and the number of decisions this last card. It's like being at the polar opposite of the spectrum of something like ML, where everyone's shitty and you get more decisions cuz everyone isn't that good, whereas, in the regular league, everyone's getting so good, you see more & more decisions rather than finishes cuz it's come full circle again with a lot of fighters being dead even again. Yeah, but I'm talking decisions where it's clearly obvious someone shouldn't have won. I'm not talking about D'Alelio vs. Honchak, I think that was fine, I'm talking about others. |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Oct 11, 2019 9:22:22 GMT -5
Maybe a one use thing wouldn't be so bad, but, ultimately, I think it's a waste of time. Fighters are getting better, and more evenly matched; just look at the number of capped fighters and the number of decisions this last card. It's like being at the polar opposite of the spectrum of something like ML, where everyone's shitty and you get more decisions cuz everyone isn't that good, whereas, in the regular league, everyone's getting so good, you see more & more decisions rather than finishes cuz it's come full circle again with a lot of fighters being dead even again. Yeah, but I'm talking decisions where it's clearly obvious someone shouldn't have won. I'm not talking about D'Alelio vs. Honchak, I think that was fine, I'm talking about others. I didn't think you were talking about D'Alelio vs Honchak. lol That one was about dead even as you can get. 😅 What you're talking about, I've been on both sides of that, and it sucks, but, for the amount that it actually happens, I don't think it's worth adding that extra dimension to it. Cuz who would ultimately decide? Sandman? You? Rocketman? Right? And what are you going to do at that point? Reverse the decisions? Call them no contests? To me, that just fuels potential thoughts of bias, in my opinion. |
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Post by xx - Team GAP on Oct 11, 2019 9:49:53 GMT -5
so if there was a flash ko... such as the gsp fight.. then if i challenge then what happens?
is this trying to get rid of horrible flash kos so people cant be saved by a flash ko? or what? what is the purpose of this new potential rule? what problem are we solving exactly
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Oct 11, 2019 9:57:05 GMT -5
so if there was a flash ko... such as the gsp fight.. then if i challenge then what happens? is this trying to get rid of horrible flash kos so people cant be saved by a flash ko? or what? what is the purpose of this new potential rule? what problem are we solving exactly No. He's talking about fights that go to decisions that might be questionable, not flash finishes. Though you bring up a valid argument with questionable flash finishes too, if we're gonna discuss questionable decisions. |
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Post by xx - Team GAP on Oct 11, 2019 10:12:10 GMT -5
im asking what fights are reviewable and what fights arent? this to me seems to be important and would be cause for arguements unless its sorted out ahead of time in a very clear manner.
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Oct 11, 2019 10:20:43 GMT -5
im asking what fights are reviewable and what fights arent? this to me seems to be important and would be cause for arguements unless its sorted out ahead of time in a very clear manner. All fights that go to decision could be reviewable... I'd say it could be like a site vote. Maybe everyone votes except for the two people involved, and if it's unanimous, it either gets reversed, or rematch. |
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Oct 11, 2019 10:21:19 GMT -5
Flash kos happen IRL far more often than super shitty decisions, so I'm not sure I see a problem with those. Don't want to be Flash KOed? Be better and avoid that hit.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Oct 11, 2019 11:54:28 GMT -5
Flash kos happen IRL far more often than super shitty decisions, so I'm not sure I see a problem with those. Don't want to be Flash KOed? Be better and avoid that hit. On that same token, bad decisions happen IRL too. Don't want a bad decision, finish the fight or do more to give the program reason to give your fighter the decision. |
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Oct 11, 2019 13:55:16 GMT -5
Flash kos happen IRL far more often than super shitty decisions, so I'm not sure I see a problem with those. Don't want to be Flash KOed? Be better and avoid that hit. On that same token, bad decisions happen IRL too. Don't want a bad decision, finish the fight or do more to give the program reason to give your fighter the decision. Yeah, but when there's a bad decision IRL, an argument can still be made. Sometimes there's no argument to be made other than damage, which we can not see. |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Oct 11, 2019 14:20:31 GMT -5
On that same token, bad decisions happen IRL too. Don't want a bad decision, finish the fight or do more to give the program reason to give your fighter the decision. Yeah, but when there's a bad decision IRL, an argument can still be made. Sometimes there's no argument to be made other than damage, which we can not see. Exactly & nothing usually happens from them either. lol It sux taking a bad loss, I get it, but it sux just as much on a flash finish or when your fighters get dominated in fights they should be winning too. Shit happens. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Oct 11, 2019 15:27:13 GMT -5
Though you bring up a valid argument with questionable flash finishes too, if we're gonna discuss questionable decisions. There is no such thing as a "questionable flash finish". If someone is flash KOed or flash submitted, they still went unconscious, or they still submitted. Flashes will never be part of any sort of review process. |
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Oct 11, 2019 15:43:34 GMT -5
Yeah, but when there's a bad decision IRL, an argument can still be made. Sometimes there's no argument to be made other than damage, which we can not see. Exactly & nothing usually happens from them either. lol It sux taking a bad loss, I get it, but it sux just as much on a flash finish or when your fighters get dominated in fights they should be winning too. Shit happens. Luckily, since the site is a game, we dont have to be identical to real life. We can be better than real life. |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Oct 11, 2019 16:10:44 GMT -5
Exactly & nothing usually happens from them either. lol It sux taking a bad loss, I get it, but it sux just as much on a flash finish or when your fighters get dominated in fights they should be winning too. Shit happens. Luckily, since the site is a game, we dont have to be identical to real life. We can be better than real life. That's debatable 😂😂 |
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