Overall Site Suggestion

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Okay, so I have been doing some thinking, and I have come up with a few suggestions.

- I find that the ManMMA roster is a bit too crowded. I find I only have about 5 fighters I truly care about how they do. I don't know how everyone else feels though. That brings me to...

SUGGESTION #1 - Reduce the number of fighters in ManMMA.

- I simply feel like it has gotten to big, and most fights, no one really cares about them because they do nothing. People want to see good fights between guys that people want to see. I think we have gotten away from that a bit.

- I also feel as if things go by too quick, half the time I come on and a card would be posted and the sims would be done. No time to make predictions, no time to chirp , no time to really talk about each fight. So that brings me to...

SUGGESTION #2 - Less Fight Cards

- Now this might be a bit weird to some people. But hear me out. I would find the site more enjoyable if fight cards were something to look forward too, and not something that just happens pretty much every day. If you look at the manager's league, there is sometimes 1 card per week, and I find myself looking forward to those cards more. So let's say every Monday, Justin posts a fight card, along with a thread for each fight where the results will eventually be posted. Maybe he posts a quick thing with his thoughts if he wants. Then we can talk about each fight individually. Then that is simmed thursday morning let's say. Thursday night, the next card goes up, and is simmed Sunday, and then so on and so forth. With the manager league we still have fights in between those events, and we have more time to talk about the fights.

NOTE; Suggestions #1 and #2 are tied together I guess, as if you reduce the number of fight cards, you need to reduce the amount of fighters, and vice versa.

SUGGESTION #3 - Another Manager Fighter

- Now, I know this idea has been beaten to death. To be honest though, I find myself enjoying creating my fighter and progressing it, and I think adding one more for whoever wants another one has 0 downside. Gives people more to do, and allows the manager league to grow.

CONCLUSION

If we reduce the fighters to have every fight people care about, and allow lots of time for predictions and discussion on every fight, along with another fighter in the managers league, to me it would just make a world of difference to the site.

These are just my thoughts to improve the site, hopefully they are considered.

[xx - Camp Cannon]

I like my # of fighter also think that 1 more could be added as theres lots of good fighters nobody has picked yet

as for the simming and suggestion 2 i like the way its done justin posts usually sunday night sims monday post tuesday sim wednesday post thursday and sims friday each card is up well past 12 hours or more so if u needed 2 predict then log in in the morning hell i log in when i wake up round 1 2 ish and predict

the manager leagues are simmed on tuesdays and thursdays

as for another manager league fighter io voted yes seperate weight class and dont really know what happened to that poll

[The Sandmen]

Suggestion 1 - It's fine with me if people want to reduce the number of fighters, but I am pretty sure people don't want to. I have been harassed by 3 different people to make the draft an ADD a fighter draft, rather than a swap.

Suggestion 2 - If the majority of the league agrees and wants less cards, that's fine I guess. But the simming would be Monday and Friday. I don't sim (nor do I volunteer to sim) on weekends.

The part about comparing it to ML kind of confuses me though, since when Mike took over we had like, 4-5 sims a week - more than I could keep up with and I live on this site. Lately, he's been busy so it has slowed (against his will, is my understanding)

Suggestion 3 - What did happen to the poll on this?

[The Rocketmen]

The poll had a bit of a split on whether the fighters would be added to the division or a separate division. If people want those new fighters, they will come in for the third ML season and we'll re-determine what weight class. In fact, we can discuss that here if people would like.

[The Sandmen]

I would prefer to do it somewhere separately so we can continue to focus on GrappleMuch's other 2 suggestions, as they seem most pressing here.

[xx - Team Ramrod]

I like the amount of fighters I have too. There are a few guys that are iffy or that get neglected a bit but that's part of the fun. I worked on improving Jon Jones and Diego Sanchez previously. They both became Champs. Now I've moved on to some of my other fighters.

I like the way sims go now, it keeps me on here all the time. Although the idea of having time to discuss fights is good too. We don't get much time between cards being posted to the time they're simmed.

[The Sandmen]

So more time between POST time, and SIM time for that card?

[xx - Camp Cannon]

Dec 5, 2012 15:58:57 GMT -5 The Sandmen said:

So more time between POST time, and SIM time for that card?

not too much tho as we'll become less active i dont see why grapplemuch cant get his predictions in on time does he live in the west or china orr something, i think things are running smoothly as is.More fight more prediction point and more post points points are good..

[xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club]

Dec 5, 2012 15:58:57 GMT -5 The Sandmen said:

So more time between POST time, and SIM time for that card?

Well, the time's that you post the card then sim the same day is when it gets a little weird and not everyone gets a chance to make our picks. Otherswise, I like the way you do the simming.

As for Cor's Suggestions:

SUGGESTION #1 - Reduce the number of fighters in ManMMA.

I disagree. We just had a downsizing of the league and dispersed a number of teams. It's nowhere near the size or number of fighters we had with those extra teams in the league. Plus, there are actually still a few good fighters left on the Swapper FA list as well as in the Draft Only category. I'm personally wanting to add 1 more LW and 1 more FW to my roster so I have a balance for myself of 4 in all divisions.

SUGGESTION #2 - Less Fight Cards

Again, I disagree. I look forward to the ManMMA more so than the ML cards still; though the ML is finally starting to pick up some steam and the fights are alot more interesting now. In most cases, we all have fighters we like and want to see do well. If the divisions get too small, you'll have a situation like the ML league where it's always the same few guys fighting every single card. Which I dunno about you, but with the limited number of fighters in the ML, it does get a little boring seeing the same fighters fight over and over. The only benefit to it is that you get to see where your fighter is at a little faster than having a larger roster.

Leading to...

SUGGESTION #3 - Another Manager Fighter

I completely agree; adding another fighter has 0 downside. However, I, myself, voted for them to be placed in the same weight class for the reason I listed above. It provides more diversity to the ML and more of a variety of fights to see as oppose to the same fighters fighting each other every 2nd or 3rd card. It does get a bit monotonous though the benefit is still you get to see your fighter's progress a little easier.

[The Sandmen]

another thing to toss to the floor - I have noticed over the past 2 cards that were posted earlier, there is literally no difference in the number of predictions we get between giving people 12 hours and giving them 36.

[Ferocity]

I guess Grapplemuch and I are the odd ones out. I could easily enjoy having less fighters. I have guys I couldn't care less about and as such I neglect and will continue to neglect them.... however, it was my general neglect of the middleweight division that prompted me to choose Koscheck (strictly on his performance) and make him what I hope is a real contender. If I didn't have several guys to choose from, I might have had to work on a lesser fighter.

As for less sims, 2 a week would be better for me than 3, but I get that other people want to be on here more than I can be.

Hammerfists has already talked on #3, I voted for another ML person, and it sounds like that is at some point what we are getting.

[xx - Camp Cannon]

ManMma 93 has been posted way earlier and you've yet to pick there Grapplemuch

[The Rocketmen]

I like parts of this and other part I don't much care. But there are parts.

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Dec 6, 2012 14:38:41 GMT -5 xx - Camp Cannon said:

ManMma 93 has been posted way earlier and you've yet to pick there Grapplemuch

It's not for me specifically.....

[Lord Byron's Conquistadors]

if it ain't broke, don't fix it. but is it broke?