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Post by The Sandmen on Feb 10, 2013 22:22:32 GMT -5
(to the end of ManMMA 162) Total Bonuses Leaders| Fighter | Bonuses | | Shinya Aoki | 16 | | Junior dos Santos | 15 | | Anderson Silva | 15 | | B.J. Penn | 14 | | Cung Le | 14 | | Georges St-Pierre | 13 | | Mirko Cro Cop | 12 | | Lyoto Machida | 11 | | Megumi Fujii | 10 | | Jon Jones | 10 | | Josh Koscheck | 10 |
| Fighter | Bonuses | | Cung Le | 8 | | Shinya Aoki | 7 | | Dan Henderson | 7 | | Vitor Belfort | 7 | | Georges St-Pierre | 7 | | Josh Koscheck | 7 |
| Fighter | Bonuses | | Anderson Silva | 9 | | Junior dos Santos | 9 | | Cris Cyborg | 7 | | Mirko Cro Cop | 7 | | Brock Lesnar | 6 | | Cung Le | 6 |
| Fighter | Bonuses | | Megumi Fujii | 10 | | Shinya Aoki | 8 | | Tara LaRosa | 5 | | Marloes COenen | 5 | | Lyoto Machida | 5 | | B.J. Penn | 5 | | Kazushi Sakuraba | 5 |
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Post by The West Coast Knockouts on Feb 11, 2013 1:20:31 GMT -5
Yeah BJ PENN!!
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Post by The Sandmen on Feb 11, 2013 18:02:42 GMT -5
wrong. Yeah SHINYA AOKI! (post-fight bonuses were actually why I went out and acquired him  ) |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Feb 13, 2013 12:31:18 GMT -5
Yet we still get no actual bonus for the fighters for them. It's interesting to see, but you'd think these fighters would get a little more than just the "notariety" for it. Just my opinion.
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Post by The Sandmen on Feb 13, 2013 18:14:02 GMT -5
You'd think so, but nope. We discussed that before. Since I have to pick the winners sometimes, I am not accepting the responsibility for giving points for fight night bonuses to fighters when I myself have a team. Conflict of interest.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Feb 20, 2013 22:07:10 GMT -5
I still don't agree with that... the FotN's and stuff are usually pretty cut and dried, and you've said that you only step in if the simulator makes a stupid choice lol
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Post by The Sandmen on Feb 20, 2013 23:27:47 GMT -5
You don;t need to agree with it. I am not comfortable doing it, so I won't be doing it.
The simulator always chooses the longest fight for fight of the night, and the Sub and KO seem random. Sometimes we could have a card with 6 submissions and it won't award ANY submission of the night. The simulator does make flat-out stupid decisions sometimes, and might make perfect decisions other times. But in other cases, it has a noticeable pattern to its bonuses that makes no sense. That is still far more Justin-verdicts than I want, when points are involved. Looking at anywhere between 40-50% of the time I would need to step in. And if something was close, and one of my fighters was involved, I would be put in that conflict of interest spot I mentioned before.
Without any points, I can just sit, enjoy the fights, and if the simulator is wrong, I can correct it. I don't have to sit there second guessing myself making sure I am being fair and objective and all that shit.
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Post by The Sandmen on Mar 26, 2013 17:00:52 GMT -5
updated
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Post by The Rocketmen on Mar 26, 2013 18:22:54 GMT -5
Get ready to start penciling in Mark Coleman's name.
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Post by The Sandmen on Mar 26, 2013 23:33:50 GMT -5
No.
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Post by The Rocketmen on Mar 26, 2013 23:46:23 GMT -5
Dick.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Mar 27, 2013 12:07:59 GMT -5
I still think that we need to devise some sort of system for these fighters to get points or some sort of actual bonus for these. Even if it's a year end thing where the fighter with the most bonuses or the most in each category gets a point. They shouldn't get nothing for their good work IMO.
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Post by The Sandmen on Mar 27, 2013 12:57:36 GMT -5
I still think that we need to devise some sort of system for these fighters to get points or some sort of actual bonus for these. Even if it's a year end thing where the fighter with the most bonuses or the most in each category gets a point. They shouldn't get nothing for their good work IMO. I said before, I totally agree with this. In theory. But since I have to pick, it just opens the door for everyone to start tossing "rigged" around every time one of my guys gets a bonus. And at least one member of my team I acquired solely because he is a bonus machine. |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Mar 27, 2013 13:04:16 GMT -5
I still think that we need to devise some sort of system for these fighters to get points or some sort of actual bonus for these. Even if it's a year end thing where the fighter with the most bonuses or the most in each category gets a point. They shouldn't get nothing for their good work IMO. I said before, I agree with this IN THEORY, but since I have to pick, it just opens the door for everyone to start tossing "rigged" around every time one of my guys gets a bonus. And at least one member of my team I acquired solely because he is a bonus machine. Well honestly, Anderson aside; who's fucking nuts to begin with (And the fact you got him for peanuts  ), it's still think it's a worthy project to atleast try and find some sort of way to do this. I mean, we all know by now that Anderson is, for all intents and purposes, the best fighter in ManMMA right now. It's just a fact. However, he doesn't ALWAYS get the bonus every time he fights either. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Mar 27, 2013 13:06:07 GMT -5
I'm not talking about Anderson, I'm talking about Aoki.
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), it's still think it's a worthy project to atleast try and find some sort of way to do this. I mean, we all know by now that Anderson is, for all intents and purposes, the best fighter in ManMMA right now. It's just a fact. However, he doesn't ALWAYS get the bonus every time he fights either. 