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Post by Lord Byron's Conquistadors on Feb 25, 2013 17:43:41 GMT -5
this sounds like a bad idea but hear me out first cause i am thinking more about the new people than me so phoenix don get mad at me this time please. but what if we put in some sort of thing where afer a certain number of posts people have to post more to get points. ferocity said before i saw where she said she could not post as much as phoenix and its true with sandmen and hammerfist too. they can post a lot and so there fighters will always be better than ours and new teams. what if we made it so the more posts you have the more posts you have to make before your next point. so someone with 10000 posts like phoenix gets a point every 100 or 75 or something instead of every 50. its like building muscle in real life after a certain point it gets harder and harder to build muscle maybe getting points should be like that too to make it more realistic.
thank you for listening to my suggestion again.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Feb 25, 2013 20:29:51 GMT -5
How about you stop making suggestions, Byron?! lol Your last 2 have been pointedly to try and screw me over... and btw, the feeling's mutual... you're a flake too, asshole. You keep saying for me to stop telling you how to run your team, yet you keep trying to meddle with mine. You leave me alone, I'll leave you alone... or is that too difficult for you?!
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Post by Lord Byron's Conquistadors on Feb 26, 2013 10:02:48 GMT -5
wow look at mr ego over here. this has nothing to do with you mr everything revolves around me. this has nothing to do with you it has to do with making it so that new teams like rebel storm have compettive fighters because someone like you and sandmen have got a lot more points. heres some math for you
you have earned 44 points not including trades predictions or other points. if you have a normal team of 12 fighters that means every single one of them is almost 4 points ahead of any new guy brought in by any new team. all i am saying is at that point we should slow it down some. if you are like cannon and all 44 of those go into 1 fighter then new people never have a chance to even out their team. people like me and ramrod don have the best internet so we cant post as much. i am not sayin give me free points i am saying make it so its not so easy for people who have nothing but time to get a 700 point head start on people who just sign up brand new.
if you have been here long enough to have 4000 posts like sandman you probably have other perks too like more fighters you want maybe some tournament or title or grand prix or ml tournament wins or something. new people will never be able to do any of that because they are going to be 400 points behind all the people who are already here forever. so i am saying make it so after a while its harder to get points to keep it fair. i am not saying no points for people with 2000 posts i am saying make it a bit more challenging. cause clearly they can handle it if they have 2000-5000 posts. this isn about pheonix its about fairness for everyone.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2013 21:27:20 GMT -5
I like this. Makes it even for everyone.
Kruze is on 24/7 and some can only be on once for twice a day for like 10-20 minutes.
I think this is a good idea... every 500 posts you make you need more posts to get points.
Kruze, who has 2234 posts, would need lets say 150 posts, to get a point, while Bryon with 200 posts needs 50, this is fair, because they will likely hit that mark at the exact same time
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Feb 26, 2013 22:40:18 GMT -5
wow look at mr ego over here. this has nothing to do with you mr everything revolves around me. this has nothing to do with you it has to do with making it so that new teams like rebel storm have compettive fighters because someone like you and sandmen have got a lot more points. heres some math for you you have earned 44 points not including trades predictions or other points. if you have a normal team of 12 fighters that means every single one of them is almost 4 points ahead of any new guy brought in by any new team. all i am saying is at that point we should slow it down some. if you are like cannon and all 44 of those go into 1 fighter then new people never have a chance to even out their team. people like me and ramrod don have the best internet so we cant post as much. i am not sayin give me free points i am saying make it so its not so easy for people who have nothing but time to get a 700 point head start on people who just sign up brand new. if you have been here long enough to have 4000 posts like sandman you probably have other perks too like more fighters you want maybe some tournament or title or grand prix or ml tournament wins or something. new people will never be able to do any of that because they are going to be 400 points behind all the people who are already here forever. so i am saying make it so after a while its harder to get points to keep it fair. i am not saying no points for people with 2000 posts i am saying make it a bit more challenging. cause clearly they can handle it if they have 2000-5000 posts. this isn about pheonix its about fairness for everyone. Explain this to me then, Byron... If this has nothing to do with me, then why is it that I'm the one being constantly singled out for everything from my roster size to my activity and posting? "His rosters too big." & "He posts too much and gets too many points; I can't keep up."  Cry me a river... Post more. Here's the real math, cuz it doesn't take much, even with shitty internet, to comment on each fight, make your predictions and comment on the results, if you want to. That's 15-16 posts per ManMMA card, 12-13 posts per ML card, which equals 27 posts at the very least. Then multiply that by 2, on average since there's supposed to be approximately 2 cards of each per week, and that comes to 54 posts, which gives you 1 point per week, if you post on everything like you're encouraged to do. Also, your point about being ahead of everyone else is completely baseless. 1) I haven't dumped all those points into 1 fighter. We've seen what happens in allot of cases like Gonzaga of Team GAP where he's had tons of point dumped into him and now he can't win to save his life... or even Crybaby Cannon's PRECIOUS Ronda Rousey... she wins more than she did before, sure, but she's not the beast he expected her to be after all those upgrades and now he's pissed cuz my fighters are actually winning and his aren't. Sandman's always said that your fighters fight more when they win. So, because my fighters are winning more now and I'm supposed to feel bad about that? Why? 2) If your opinion here was actually accurate, then how is it that Jordan Mein, who's had 9 upgrade points (7 points if you don't count training camp) put into him, got his ass handed by Costas Philippou, a new brand fighter on one of those new teams, with no upgrades, at ManMMA 117? How is that not competitive? Or how is it that Kedzie has a 3-10 re, yet she's had 13 points put into her (11 points if you don't count training camp). It's no more or less fair since these fighters are made as close to how they are/were IRL as possible at the time they are made. None of the fighters that I have upgraded, other than Cruz, who I acquired through the draft, have won a belt. In short, all I'm seeing out of any of this is 1) You don't like the fact that I've built my roster the way I have, because I have more fighters and seem to think that the ONLY reason for the lessening of the fight frequency for your fighters. 2)You don't like the fact that I'm active, post on everything and get about a point per week for my larger roster of fighters that I spread those points out on and don't really load up on 1 fighter, unless they're struggling, like Kedzie. I mean, seriously, you say that I bitch and complain about everything, but really, these attacks... and that's all these are, are attacks, are no different than when I step up an say something that I don't like. I understand that you need someone or something to blame for some reason, but my team nor my activity is the problem for any of you. I'm actually getting hit with the lessened fight frequency too, you just don't notice as much because of the amount of fighters I have on my team and their fights are spread out enough that I generally have atleast 1 fight on each card, but I've also had a card already that I had no fights too. My upgraded fighters are still losing fights to new fighters or fighters that haven't been upgraded. There's no need to up my posts for points, right now in any rate... If my team was totally owning everyone, that'd be hugely different, but they're not... I'm a mid pack team with only 2 former champions, and only one of them won that title while on my team. It just seems to me you need to have a target, and that target is me because somehow my mediocre team is somehow a threat to you... Really? Is it? Just something for you guys to think about. |
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Post by Lord Byron's Conquistadors on Feb 27, 2013 3:28:21 GMT -5
the only part of phoenixes essay i read was the thing about jordan mein. it was really stupid so i didn;t wast me time with more.
you want to know why jordan neim got his ass kicked by costa??? becuase he is jordan fucking mein retard!!! he isn't even a ufc fighter let alone a legend ffs. throw 100 points into him he will still be a pilon.
that was the dumbest thing i have ever read
all of what i just said aside you are not bieng attacked you are being the example because guess what you are the only guy not on staff with over 2000 posts the next closest guy was here 6 months before you. if you don know why i single you out its because of that you stump. the only 2 guys more posts than you who this rule should apply too 2 are the ones who make the site and sim the fights. i think the rule should apply to basically anyone over 1000 posts cause there are 5 of you and about 7 of us without 1000 posts.
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Ferocity
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Post by Ferocity on Feb 28, 2013 12:18:04 GMT -5
NEW RULE: YOU ARE ALLOWED TO SAY 3 points- in point form during discussions. I am totally polling this. these essays hurt me and I LOVE to read.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Feb 28, 2013 16:22:40 GMT -5
NEW RULE: YOU ARE ALLOWED TO SAY 3 points- in point form during discussions. I am totally polling this. these essays hurt me and I LOVE to read. Sorry, Ferocity... I know I get long-winded, but I believe in getting my point across completely, though it seems that even the long-winded answers don't get it across either. I dunno whether that's the way I say it or what, but it just seems that no one's willing to hear my side of things and just continue on without looking at it from all sides. I'll try and shorten them down for you though. |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Feb 28, 2013 19:38:47 GMT -5
It's because you do have some good points but they are mostly surrounded or opened with long lectures of how we should all go fuck ourselves. Typically that's not a good way to debate, otherwise debates would be covered live on television nightly and would get 20+M viewers.
Your fuck-you-debates gain like 5 viewers and most of them don't bother to read them anymore. They just say "fuck me for thinking I could read that" or "I'll just go fuck myself since that's what he wants me to do anyway."
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Ferocity
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Post by Ferocity on Feb 28, 2013 21:09:34 GMT -5
I know it's hard, when I feel strongly about something I generally write a huge rant myself. I just TRY (and sometimes fail miserably) to edit it afterwards so that people will read it. Even then, I know some won't understand, but if it's simple enough I can easily point out their errors in understanding.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Mar 1, 2013 21:24:24 GMT -5
It's because you do have some good points but they are mostly surrounded or opened with long lectures of how we should all go fuck ourselves. Typically that's not a good way to debate, otherwise debates would be covered live on television nightly and would get 20+M viewers. Your fuck-you-debates gain like 5 viewers and most of them don't bother to read them anymore. They just say "fuck me for thinking I could read that" or "I'll just go fuck myself since that's what he wants me to do anyway." Umm... usually my retorts are in response to folks already saying fuck you to me and not seeing that I'm not the problem for these things. In this case, Byron's trying mask it by saying it's for the new teams and, infact, for himself too, since he isn't able to post as much cuz of his internet connection. It just seems like they're looking for someone or something to blame and it's super easy to point at my activity or my roster size (which have been the 2 issues recently) as the sole reason for things being the way they are. The rules were set up before I even got here and I'm not breaking any, yet folks come at me like I am breaking some sort of rule. Why should I get punished for being active and following the rules? I haven't been doing anything wrong, yet I'm continually having to defend myself and get chastised for that too. It makes no sense. I just feel like folks are singling me out lately cuz it's easy to "blame Kruze cuz he complains about everything anyways, so fuck him". |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Mar 1, 2013 22:04:49 GMT -5
You have a strange definition for "usually."
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Post by Lord Byron's Conquistadors on Mar 2, 2013 2:06:43 GMT -5
i agree with ferocity phoenix says a lot without saying anything. its pathetic.
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Post by The Sandmen on Mar 2, 2013 2:18:29 GMT -5
My God, can't anyone just let shit die?
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Post by xx - Team GAP on Mar 2, 2013 8:24:18 GMT -5
agreed... we will ALL let shit die!!
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Cry me a river... Post more. 
Have 9 points in celebration of this monumental achievement!