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Post by The West Coast Knockouts on Apr 13, 2014 20:24:29 GMT -5
I like the new points system we have in place. Keep it the same and just use everybody's post count to determine how many posts they need for points . Well, so much for our side agreement with the versus challenge. It was proven that basing it on post count is ridiculous dude, so of course you wanna keep it the way it is. Guess one can't trust you to keep your word. Thanks allot bud. Lmao your unbelievable . This is what you said "There's a bit of an exception in this case because if you beat me in this challenge, this puts to bed all this crap that I'm somehow leaps and bounds ahead of you in terms of fighter development and stuff; meaning I don't wanna hear anymore complaints about my post counts and points, etc. Does that make sense to you?" |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 13, 2014 22:10:41 GMT -5
With all due respect, that's kind of your own damn fault dude... were you or were you not the one that made 85-90% of the league exempt from FiD this season? But now you're complaining about having guys on 11 fight losing streaks and it being difficult to to book, except the thing is that you created that problem for yourself. Those teams are not the problem. I specifically tossed the team under the boss that was the problem. BUT, if we want to say things are my problem, I will happily solve them the way I want to. Which, in this case, could just be simply cutting people who don't belong here. Dana White style. Then I don't get your problem or what team was the problem since no one but the team's you specifically made exempt from it would have fighters on 11 fight losing streaks. If you're meaning my team that was tossed under the bus, you knew damn well I wouldn't just let fighter go to FiD... if that was the case, you should know better by now. |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 13, 2014 22:15:39 GMT -5
Well, so much for our side agreement with the versus challenge. It was proven that basing it on post count is ridiculous dude, so of course you wanna keep it the way it is. Guess one can't trust you to keep your word. Thanks allot bud. Lmao your unbelievable . This is what you said "There's a bit of an exception in this case because if you beat me in this challenge, this puts to bed all this crap that I'm somehow leaps and bounds ahead of you in terms of fighter development and stuff; meaning I don't wanna hear anymore complaints about my post counts and points, etc. Does that make sense to you?" Yes, and whether your comment was direct or indirect, you're basically saying that I'm still leaps and bounds ahead of you so I should stay at the post count I'm at, which is going back on this, to which you did agree to. There's a bit of an exception in this case because if you beat me in this challenge, this puts to bed all this crap that I'm somehow leaps and bounds ahead of you in terms of fighter development and stuff; meaning I don't wanna hear anymore complaints about my post counts and points, etc. Does that make sense to you?  Crystal clear And now you've gone back on... I honestly should almost revoke you winnings from the versus for that shit... I won't, but that's really shitty pool you're playing man. |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Apr 13, 2014 22:23:00 GMT -5
sigh
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Post by The West Coast Knockouts on Apr 13, 2014 23:01:56 GMT -5
Kruze needs help guys that's all I can say.
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 13, 2014 23:52:58 GMT -5
So we're at: 2 in favour of 50 across the board (Kruze and GAP) 2 in favour of 25-50-75-100 (Knockouts & Underdogs) 1 in favour of 50-75 (Ferocity) |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 14, 2014 3:16:22 GMT -5
Double Poster... lol
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 14, 2014 4:12:21 GMT -5
Yeah, really. WTF happened there. I didn't even click "Post" twice. I will delete one. Sorry, everyone. I feel shame  |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 14, 2014 11:54:43 GMT -5
Sorry, everyone. I feel shame  You bought a Kesha CD?! lol |
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 14, 2014 13:47:23 GMT -5
That would be a different level of shame. A different PLANET of shame. Especially since I only basically buy Rammstein CDs, paying money for...just NO! FUCKING NO! THERE'S A LINE, DAMNIT! YOU'VE CROSSED IT!
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Post by Lord Byron's Conquistadors on Apr 14, 2014 14:49:44 GMT -5
imma wait on this a bit and see what eryone else says i like being at lower post count cause it fits how ic an be on the site and i think you see it aint givin me no advantage thas for sure. i barely get any upgrades ever.
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Post by The Rocketmen on Apr 14, 2014 17:50:04 GMT -5
I still prefer the ratio stats. Or the 50-75. That's pretty fair. But the ratio stats is hands down the most fair way to do it - season by season.
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Post by xx - Team GAP on Apr 15, 2014 2:30:52 GMT -5
Sandmen said: I just see far too many people that I know the team doesn't care about filling up cards, and taking the slots of the Jon Jones', Brock Lesnars, etc. (and if you care, yes, my own fighters are included in this, but if they blow, I drop them, even when I like them (Kawajiri, for example), or I upgrade the shit out of them until they are better (Askren). People like Big Nog from Camp Cannon have never, and will never, receive an upgrade, and are doomed to suck forever, while the manager power-upgrades new fighters (Holm) into title contention.
Team GAP says: Isn't that just a tactic for the team? I mean are you gonna post rules now for how a team can spend their points? If a team wants to focus their energy or points on 1 fighter and the team fails.. Doesn't the responcibility for that failure fall on the team manager? Keep in mind some people may not be looking at things the same way as you Sandmen.. For example: I am upgrading 1 fighter.. why? because perhaps i'm looking at having a great team 5 seasons from now and I know I have to power level my fighters one at a time in order to be ready to dominatein 5 seasons from now. Other teams may way to put 1 point into each fighter and slowly have the entire team level up... 2 different mentality's, 2 different tactics. I'd love to see this game get back to being a mental game instead of it being a bitch/power corrupt game.
Sandmen said: If you want fair, simmers being at 75 and everyone else being at 50 is fair. I outlined this for you before, but in summary, each sim gets me 19 extra posts (announcements, results, 17 fights). 25 gives me an additional 6 posts detriment. If fair is what you are after, mathematically, 75 is more fair than 100.
Team GAP says: I completely disagree with you. I have seen you run the site (have how many champions) at 100 posts per point.. if you were lowered we would just see you gain more belts again and you would become unstoppable. You are almost that way now anyways. If you stay at 100 posts per point it keeps you more level with the people around you. IF I was to have champions across the board.. and nobody could beat them.. I'd expect being at a higher post count makes sense. but for now everyone should be at 50 posts per point and 100 for simmers. It's not fair to have people on different levels with no excuse. the more we create different levels the more the game becomes unfair. if we want to play the unfair game i'll take 1 post per point. see not fair.
Sandmen said: So we're at:
2 in favour of 50 across the board (Kruze and GAP)
2 in favour of 25-50-75-100 (Knockouts & Underdogs)
1 in favour of 50-75 (Ferocity)
Team GAP says: I didn't realize this was a vote thought it was a discussion where we could voice our opinions and come to a solution about what should be done? Guess I'm wrong.
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Post by The Rocketmen on Apr 15, 2014 5:36:48 GMT -5
..... sigh....
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 15, 2014 10:54:21 GMT -5
For the record I'm more in favor of the 50-75 or 50-100(simmers) as it was before these BS limits and things were placed on it; 50 for simmers would be ridiculous for everyone. And the tiered system doesn't work either because it give all the advantage to the lower posting teams and punishes the more active folks on the site. I know I keep saying it, but everyone thought that my team would mow through the KOs, everyone but me that is, and what happened? I was the one that got mowed through. So saying that folks that have over 1500 posts, or whatever the post number is, have the advantage is totally farcical and complete fiction. It's just a mechanism for the these lower posting teams to stay on top and punish those that are actually being active and keep this site alive.
That doesn't seem right or fair to me, so I dunno how it seems right or fair to anyone else unless it actually benefits you to penalize the active posters because you're either too lazy, don't give a shit or just plain can't post often. Sorry to put it like that, cuz most of you folks are nice and good people, but I've been unfairly persecuted for being a higher volume poster on this site for many seasons now claiming that I'm somehow becoming this powerhouse in the league when I've only ever made the GP twice on my own merit that wasn't a shortened season like my first season was, I've only ever won 2 titles and they were not fighters that I initially drafted; they were acquired just as they were in line for their title shots. So forgive me if I'm not more sympathetic to all the lower volume posters. I've made provisions, increased my roster size and done things to counter balance my own large post volume all on my own, but no one sees that, all they see is 8000+ posts and automatically assume I have this amazing team yet I nearly always finish at or near the bottom of the league standings. Take blinders off folks... Please.
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You bought a Kesha CD?! lol
