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Post by The Rocketmen on Apr 17, 2014 5:41:41 GMT -5
I prefer to keep the voting tallies cluttered. I also think that because it's a near concensus, the The Sandmen can probably make an executive decision on what he feels is most appropriate. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 17, 2014 9:31:39 GMT -5
Below 2000 posts: 25 posts
Others: 50 posts
Simmers: 75 Posts
This clearly has the most support. We'll go with that. YAY SOMETHING WAS SETTLED.
NOW, this issue of FiD. I kind of like what Underdogs had said, with having Post-Fight Press Conferences. I'll probably start doing those regardless, either on the results page or in a new thread after the fights. But do we want that to be a factor on FiD?
What I would like to do is incorporate that Post Fight Press Conference into FiD. Instead of the system we have now, the closeness of fighters to danger can be mentioned at the PFPC. So instead of "3 losses gets you on the list, 5 gets you cut", it's more like reality, where performance, opponent, and difficulty are taken into account.
These are the flaws with our current system:
1) The fighters record is not taken into account - we've seen people like Sarah Kaufman on the list. There's no way Sarah should be even considered as an option to be cut. She is a high-level performer, who just had a bad fight or two.
2) The fighters' level is not taken into account - again, Kaufman's losing streak put her on the FiD list when her losses were to basically the #1, #2 and #3 fighters in her weight class.
3) Tying in with #2, if a fighter wins every 4th fight simply because he is fighting terrible fighters and is still neglected, this fighter is perpetually safe, but is sitting at a record ratio of 1:3 or 1:4. (Which, need I say, is terrible)
With the PFPC, we'd establish who was safe, who MIGHT be in danger if they don't see some improvement, who MUST win their next fight, and who needs to be improved upon regardless.
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 17, 2014 9:39:00 GMT -5
And, of course, the PFPC would give everyone the chance to ask about specific fighters' positions and performances, etc.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 17, 2014 10:44:48 GMT -5
@ The Sandmen: I'm still not seeing how any fighters could be on 11 fight losing streaks unless they're on teams that you've given FiD exemption to. Would you please clarify this because it makes no sense. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 11:23:37 GMT -5
Actually its 2 votes for this:
Below 2000 posts: 25 posts
Others: 50 posts
Simmers: 75 Posts1 vote for : Below 1500 posts: 25 posts Others: 50 posts Simmers: 75 Posts 2 votes for: Below 1500 posts: 25 posts Others: 50 posts Simmers: 100 Posts 2 vote for: Below 1500-2000 posts: 25 posts Others: 50 posts Simmers: 75 Posts As you can see we are still divided but at least we are getting closer. No, Knockouts, Bullies, and I like the idea. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 11:27:48 GMT -5
Below 2000 posts: 25 posts
Others: 50 posts
Simmers: 75 Posts
This clearly has the most support. We'll go with that. YAY SOMETHING WAS SETTLED.
NOW, this issue of FiD. I kind of like what Underdogs had said, with having Post-Fight Press Conferences. I'll probably start doing those regardless, either on the results page or in a new thread after the fights. But do we want that to be a factor on FiD? What I would like to do is incorporate that Post Fight Press Conference into FiD. Instead of the system we have now, the closeness of fighters to danger can be mentioned at the PFPC. So instead of "3 losses gets you on the list, 5 gets you cut", it's more like reality, where performance, opponent, and difficulty are taken into account. These are the flaws with our current system: 1) The fighters record is not taken into account - we've seen people like Sarah Kaufman on the list. There's no way Sarah should be even considered as an option to be cut. She is a high-level performer, who just had a bad fight or two. 2) The fighters' level is not taken into account - again, Kaufman's losing streak put her on the FiD list when her losses were to basically the #1, #2 and #3 fighters in her weight class. 3) Tying in with #2, if a fighter wins every 4th fight simply because he is fighting terrible fighters and is still neglected, this fighter is perpetually safe, but is sitting at a record ratio of 1:3 or 1:4. (Which, need I say, is terrible) With the PFPC, we'd establish who was safe, who MIGHT be in danger if they don't see some improvement, who MUST win their next fight, and who needs to be improved upon regardless. Is it starting now or next season?? |
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Post by xx - The Underdog Regime on Apr 17, 2014 11:34:47 GMT -5
I request to be head of the PFPC
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 17, 2014 12:15:07 GMT -5
Is it starting now or next season?? To avoid people not posting at all to avoid going over 2000 before next season, I'm going to say it's for next season, but based on your posts right now. So. For NEXT SEASON, posts per points will be as follows: 75 posts per point: The Sandmen Camp Cannon 50 Posts per Point: Phoenix Fight Club Team GAP The RocketMen Ferocity 25 Posts per point: Canadian Bulldozers Rebel Storm The Ultimate Underdogs Lord Byron's Conquistadors The West Coast Knockouts The Broad Street Bullies |
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 17, 2014 12:16:36 GMT -5
I request to be head of the PFPC As much as I would love for you to be that guy, I'll post it after sims, and it only really makes sense for me to do it, since I have all the data about win streaks, losses, performance history, etc. on my hard drive. |
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Post by xx - The Underdog Regime on Apr 17, 2014 14:51:45 GMT -5
I request to be head of the PFPC As much as I would love for you to be that guy, I'll post it after sims, and it only really makes sense for me to do it, since I have all the data about win streaks, losses, performance history, etc. on my hard drive. You suck |
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 17, 2014 18:15:14 GMT -5
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Post by The Rocketmen on Apr 17, 2014 18:36:17 GMT -5
haha *Nelson*
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Post by Ferocity on Apr 17, 2014 19:06:37 GMT -5
I'm kinda impressed that this discussion actually went somewhere. 2 issues and new solutions to try for the upcoming season. Give yourselves a pat on the back.
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 17, 2014 19:22:37 GMT -5
Can I pat Mike instead? My back is harder to reach.
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Post by The West Coast Knockouts on Apr 17, 2014 19:35:42 GMT -5
works well and keeps everyone happy at the same time .  |
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Have 9 points in celebration of this monumental achievement!
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