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Post by The Sandmen on May 1, 2014 10:57:08 GMT -5
So...I have a bit of a conundrum here. There are a few exciting things I want to be able to do here, but don't have the support base to do it.
The first major thing I want to work on on ManMMA is fixing the disparity.
Predictions, as we saw on the last card, are getting easier and easier. I want to level the league a bit, and I think the funnest way to do that is making points easier to get for everyone. I am thinking about essentially halving the amounts we agreed upon for next season (so instead of sitting at 25, 50, 75, we'd be looking at 10, 25, 50). We could also do things like speed up or amplify camp skills as well, and introduce other ways for members to earn points.
Another major thing I would like to do is get FFL going. Or close it entirely again like ML. Cannon volunteered to do this, but has dropped the ball hardcore on that, so we're looking at probably shutting that down any day now, unfortunately.
I'd like to keep going with the press conferences, and start to flesh those out a bit more. They are fun and engaging.
I also thought of a couple cool special events, or what not. Various small things I would like to do to keep things exciting. More challenges, stuff like that.
All of this excites me.
BUT. We're unable to do pretty much any of this right now because it all comes with an increased work load that I do not have time for right now. Currently, the most important threads are just barely getting updated, and other important threads have been ignored for over a month. I have had to abandon other cool features I love, such as rankings, because there is just no where to put them into the current sim schedule.
I have offered people points as incentive to take on AND ACTUALLY DO ManMMA jobs in the past on a consistent basis, but this doesn't seem to be working. So, I'm at a loss. We either need more ManMMA volunteers so we can expand the features of this site, and give people more means of acquiring points and upgrading their fighters, or we stay where we are at.
An alternative, if we get no volunteers, is to tweak the league numbers by placing something like a fighter-cap in. What I believe this would accomplish is it would reduce the numbers of purely neglected fighters, because you would have to swap current fighters to get new ones. Much like the real UFC, I think this would allow new options for matchmaking, as teams would gradually release more and more fighters to get new exciting ones. Or, if not, they would upgrade their teams more and we would see more change brought about that way as more mid-level fighters improved.
I'm not sure. But what I know now is that whereas most other sim sites are flooded with volunteers willing to be staff or mods when no work is needed, this site has much to be done and far few volunteers to help out. If people want the most out of ManMMA, ManMMA needs a little bit back.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2014 18:57:27 GMT -5
I like the points lol
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Post by Ferocity on May 1, 2014 20:10:52 GMT -5
What jobs are up for grabs and what do they entail?
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Post by The Sandmen on May 1, 2014 21:47:07 GMT -5
I'll get a detailed list posted soon, as well as points being offered for those jobs  |
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Post by The Sandmen on May 17, 2014 1:15:24 GMT -5
An update on this. ManMMA JobsThings are looking better now on the ManMMA jobs front - more stuff is getting done in a timely manner and that's great. A big thanks to Ferocity, and xx - The Broad Street Bullies for their great work on point allocation and N1C History/Rankings respectively. And an mediocre thanks to @kadri43 for his mediocre work on Fight History.  Posts-Per-Points for Next SeasonBecause of the work of those above, I am leaning towards moving forward with the halved posts-per-points for next season (10-25-50), rather than 25-50-75. Again, the purpose of this is twofold: 1) to stimulate a bit more activity, but mostly 2) to level the disparity a little bit between fighters. CapsBecause of point 2 above, if we make the change to halved points, I think we'll keep the women's division cap as it stood (78), rather than moving it up to 80, as was previously announced. The purpose of that low cap was to level out the top-heavy women's division, and that is still being worked on now. As we've seen this past half-season, the women's division is still very predictable. We'll re-evaluate this upping of the women's cap in the near future. FFLNo one wanted to take over FFL, so it has been closed again. All of the data still exists, the boards are just hidden to avoid cluttering up the main site with dead boards. Should xx - Camp Cannon's (or someone else's) availability change in the near future, it will be easy to re-instate FFL exactly as it was. Sandmen's Other Cool FeaturesThese are still in pending. We've had great improvement in some ways in the 2 weeks since this thread was made. The jobs thing is super. We're still not quite where we need to be to bring in brand new features, though I'd like to mention one now that could be a major game-changer. Strategies. I found a way to set pre-fight strategies for a fighter for an upcoming fight. If we had more consistency in activity here, this could be something we could look at in the future. So, for example, if you were fighting Alistair Overeem with Brock Lesnar, you could PM me to privately set Brock's strategy to Takedowns, and Overeems to Kicks+Punches. This way, you could have more control over how people fight going into a fight. Right now, this presents 2 problems though. With current activity, this would make guys who were not on to see their upcoming fight unable to set a strategy, and thus, they could be thoroughly dominated. It also gets complicated with me, as I would either be unable to use strategies, or people would have to trust that I set my team's strategies prior to receiving the opposing team's proposed strategies. I am still debating on this, and welcome any ideas or insights. Nothing is decided for sure yet regarding this Strategy-setting, but feel free to post whether you like it, dislike it, whatever. ANy and all feedback. Now, let the ManMMA Argument begin. |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on May 17, 2014 11:15:35 GMT -5
CapsBecause of point 2 above, if we make the change to halved points, I think we'll keep the women's division cap as it stood (78), rather than moving it up to 80, as was previously announced. The purpose of that low cap was to level out the top-heavy women's division, and that is still being worked on now. As we've seen this past half-season, the women's division is still very predictable. We'll re-evaluate this upping of the women's cap in the near future. Predictable my ass... This is bullshit. The 2 top fighters overall-wise, that are capped, are NOT the top 2 fighters in the league; Rousey & D'Alelio. We've also seen jumps from the likes of Toughill (finally) and Murphy, etc. The top 2-4 fighters in this league are still the same as they ever were; Cyborg, Carano, Kaufman & Rousey (to a point) and only 1 of those fighters is capped. This doesn't create parity, this just keeps the top non-capped fighters at the top and says fuck you to the rest of the league. The cap needed to be at 80 right from the beginning, and I told you that when I was staff, but you implemented the 78 anyways and we're still having the same problems with the women's division that we ever were. If you had your little BS reservations about it, you shouldn't have implemented over a month ago, but you did. Now the same principle you apply to others should apply here, "You should have thought of that a month ago before it was implemented, it's too late now." which you've said to me and a number of others on this site when we've had an issue with something you've implemented before. Grow up and grab a brain already dude. The women's division is NOT that predictable anymore. It's also all too convenient that the moment that I try and upgrade D'Alelio under the new cap rule since she hasn't had a fight since the versus challenge and the cap was upped, that it's just "suddenly" ripped away. As for the rest of it, that all sounds good.  |
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Post by The Sandmen on May 17, 2014 23:33:03 GMT -5
It was also the main piece of our agreement that involved you taking over and updating several of the jobs on the site. They were not being done, so, as you said in private messages: I also went to update the points and see you've given the job to Ferocity so we can consider the rest null and void too then. The 80-cap will come back, I'm sure, but for now, rather than increasing the cap and the gap between the Rouseys/D'Alelio's/Caranos and the LaRosa's/Carmouches/McManns, we'll keep it at 78 while some people catch up those other fighters and re-competitive the division, like we have at HW, for example. |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on May 18, 2014 11:01:35 GMT -5
It was also the main piece of our agreement that involved you taking over and updating several of the jobs on the site. They were not being done, so, as you said in private messages: I also went to update the points and see you've given the job to Ferocity so we can consider the rest null and void too then. The 80-cap will come back, I'm sure, but for now, rather than increasing the cap and the gap between the Rouseys/D'Alelio's/Caranos and the LaRosa's/Carmouches/McManns, we'll keep it at 78 while some people catch up those other fighters and re-competitive the division, like we have at HW, for example. That's irrelevant in this case; private messages are private. But if you want to get into that, how about the banter in that very same message of you being a troll bitch in taunting me and keeping this thread from me after it'd been buried on the 2nd or 3rd page of the Recent Activity instead of providing a link to it, if it was that important. In any case, you also did not stipulate any reason for the increase in the women's division cap when it was increased. It was just increased. 1) The cap for female fighters is now upped to 80 (from 78). Therefore the cap at 80 should stand as it is and where it should have been right from the beginning. And the fact is that I was doing the jobs I said I was going to do, but you'll just find any excuse to be a fucking prick to me on any avenue that you see fit, and this "re-decrease" of the women's cap at the very moment I decide to upgrade D'Alelio for an upcoming fight is just yet another classic example of your bullshit that you pull on me constantly (Look at the time stamps folks, this is exactly what Sandman did.); yet you wonder why I stepped down as staff. Answer: You're a fucking asshole that can't be worked with, period... cuz your idea of "work with" is people working FOR you, not with you, and agreeing with all your stupid ideas whether they're right for the site or not cuz at the end of the day, what you mean by "right for the site" is what's right for Justin then you make accusations of "you're not doing what's best for the site" when the reality is that unless you agree with all of Justin's shit, good or bad, then it's not what's best for the site apparently. : What a fucking joke... lol |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on May 18, 2014 11:11:52 GMT -5
In fact, the cap was decreased again AFTER he decreed Sarah was still capped. Sarah is still capped. 5 points from this upgrade remaining. An update on this. CapsBecause of point 2 above, if we make the change to halved points, I think we'll keep the women's division cap as it stood (78), rather than moving it up to 80, as was previously announced. The purpose of that low cap was to level out the top-heavy women's division, and that is still being worked on now. As we've seen this past half-season, the women's division is still very predictable. We'll re-evaluate this upping of the women's cap in the near future. Therefore D'Alelio's upgrades are in fact valid. |
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Post by Ferocity on May 18, 2014 11:30:01 GMT -5
10 posts is ridiculously easy to get even for those who barely participate and therefore may be too little, but otherwise, yay to everyone.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on May 18, 2014 12:19:38 GMT -5
10 posts is ridiculously easy to get even for those who barely participate and therefore may be too little, but otherwise, yay to everyone. You'd think so, but for the lower volume posters like Rebel Storm, etc., that actually puts them more on par with the rest of the members I think. |
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Post by The Sandmen on May 18, 2014 14:05:36 GMT -5
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Post by Ferocity on May 18, 2014 18:35:51 GMT -5
but then he doesn't care and neither do I.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on May 18, 2014 21:43:52 GMT -5
lol
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Post by xx - The Underdog Regime on May 18, 2014 23:52:31 GMT -5
Trying to avoid the conversation like...  |
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