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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 13:44:15 GMT -5
WRONG. Think about it like this. If I give away Coenen for practically nothing I lose on of my fighters that wins more than they lose. Yes I won the Grand Prix but that is because of 3 FIGHTERS not my whole team. My team barely even made it to the Grand Prix. Plus my team as a whole lost more than we won so by me giving away one of my fighters that wins more than she losses just hurts my team's stats even more.
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 27, 2014 13:45:45 GMT -5
Making the Grand Prix means you did better than half the league. Winning the Grand Prix means you did better than everyone in the league.
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 27, 2014 13:49:32 GMT -5
Let's look at it this way.
This is your team:
Lauren Murphy (14-4)
Marloes Coenen (34-21)
Mark Coleman (36-21)
Cain Velasquez (27-24)
Urijah Faber (28-23)
Douglas Lima (1-0)
Nate Marquardt (6-7)
Genki Sudo (2-3)
Hayato Sakurai (2-3)
Mark Hunt (4-8)
Jennifer Howe (3-5)
Miguel Torres (13-16)
Yushin Okami (11-18)
Shane Carwin (15-22)
And this is the team that charity-gave you Coenen:
Wanderlei Silva (36-23)
Michael Chandler (16-14)
Gilbert Melendez (17-17)
Stephan Bonnar (25-25)
Roxanne Modafferi (3-4)
Kim Couture (14-23)
Dan Severn (10-22)
Frank Shamrock (18-22)
Johny Hendricks (4-14)
You have a better team than the team that gave you Coenen and Coleman (and Cain) for cheap.
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Post by Lord Byron's Conquistadors on Jul 27, 2014 13:53:36 GMT -5
i could use her. why not put her in auction and only let us bad teams with bad women bid on her and bulldoszers can pick the bid he likes best before the time limit and if he doesnt pick by the deadline she be a free agent like on the other sports sim sites from back in the day???
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 13:53:55 GMT -5
Making the Grand Prix means you did better than half the league. Winning the Grand Prix means you did better than everyone in the league. I made it in eighth place while Rocketman made it ahead of me and as I've said before I only won because of 3 FIGHTERS. If we put my whole team against anybody elses there I would've most likely lost. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 13:59:40 GMT -5
Let's look at it this way. This is your team: Lauren Murphy (14-4) Marloes Coenen (34-21) Mark Coleman (36-21) Cain Velasquez (27-24) Urijah Faber (28-23) Douglas Lima (1-0) Nate Marquardt (6-7) Genki Sudo (2-3) Hayato Sakurai (2-3) Mark Hunt (4-8) Jennifer Howe (3-5) Miguel Torres (13-16) Yushin Okami (11-18) Shane Carwin (15-22) And this is the team that charity-gave you Coenen: Wanderlei Silva (36-23) Michael Chandler (16-14) Gilbert Melendez (17-17) Stephan Bonnar (25-25) Roxanne Modafferi (3-4) Kim Couture (14-23) Dan Severn (10-22) Frank Shamrock (18-22) Johny Hendricks (4-14) You have a better team than the team that gave you Coenen and Coleman (and Cain) for cheap. Ya but I also have more fighters than he does. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 27, 2014 14:02:26 GMT -5
Making the Grand Prix means you did better than half the league. Winning the Grand Prix means you did better than everyone in the league. I made it in eighth place while Rocketman made it ahead of me and as I've said before I only won because of 3 FIGHTERS. If we put my whole team against anybody elses there I would've most likely lost. 3 fighters is all it takes. You have 3 fighters who can beat anyone else's 3 fighters IN THE LEAGUE. As I keep saying, Coenen doesn't factor into your Grand Prix win at all. But do what you want, I'm not forcing you to do anything, but I certainly am not going to give you any more charity if you aren't willing to pay it forward to members CLEARLY struggling worse than yourself. Also, Lord Byron's Conquistadors's suggestion above is interesting to me, what do you think about that? Ya but I also have more fighters than he does. You have 6 fighters with winning records. He has 2. That has nothing to do with team size. 2 of your winning-record fighters (both champions or #1 contenders) came directly off of his team (had he kept them, you would be at 4-4). Just saying, you have put Rocketmen in a position where he is a nice guy, gives you some good fighters for basically free, and now he is a lot shittier than you and you are unwilling to return the favour despite saying you are going to give Coenen to the next new team that comes along anyways. And there is also the matter of GrappleMuch has 0 women at all. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 14:04:17 GMT -5
I'm done fighting do whatever the fuck you want, I'm done.
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 27, 2014 14:07:11 GMT -5
It's your team, I am not doing anything to your team. It's up to you to make things right, not me. I just try to do what needs to be done to keep the league as fun and fair as possible, so when someone has a massive surplus in 1 weight class (especially due to charity, which is done to make the league fairer and even), I try to get them to move things around so others can enjoy the site as well. It beats having caps on fighters, weight classes, or contenders, that's for sure. Ya rely on people to do the right thing, most of the time they do it. I have no clue what you plan on doing, so I can only hope you'll do the right thing, but it's your team. Do what you want.
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Post by Lord Byron's Conquistadors on Jul 27, 2014 14:08:00 GMT -5
i could use her. why not put her in auction and only let us bad teams with bad women bid on her and bulldoszers can pick the bid he likes best before the time limit and if he doesnt pick by the deadline she be a free agent like on the other sports sim sites from back in the day??? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 14:21:22 GMT -5
It's your team, I am not doing anything to your team. It's up to you to make things right, not me. I just try to do what needs to be done to keep the league as fun and fair as possible, so when someone has a massive surplus in 1 weight class, I try to get them to move things around so others can enjoy the site as well. It beats having caps on fighters, weight classes, or contenders, that's for sure. Ya rely on people to do the right thing, most of the time they do it. I have no clue what you plan on doing, so I can only hope you'll do the right thing, but it's your team. Do what you want. Then why are you only attacking me?? Look at some of these teams: Camp CannonSara McMann (16-24) FF Paige VanZant (6-7) FF Holly Holm (11-6) FF Felice Herrig (5-14) FF Bec Rawlings (4-9-1) FF Ronda Rousey (48-21) FF Tara LaRosa (24-21) FF Andrei Arlovski (29-24) HW Shogun Rua (31-27) HW Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (18-24) HW Tyson Griffin (19-20) LW Melvin Guillard (38-23) LW
Sam Stout (34-22) LWCarlos Condit (38-21) MWGeorges St-Pierre (57-18-1) MWLyoto Machida (50-22) MWHe has a surplus of LWs and MWs.
FerocityHiroko Yamanaka (31-24) FF
Sarah Kaufman (39-15) FFForrest Griffin (33-22) HW
Kimbo Slice (32-23) HW
Junior dos Santos (41-20) HWTito Ortiz (27-22) HW Clay Guida (32-27) LW Frankie Edgar (23-24) LW Yves Edwards (26-24) LW Chris Leben (26-21) MW Michael Bisping (21-20) MW Josh Koscheck (43-19) MW She has a surplus of FFs and HWs. The SandmenKyra Gracie (12-15) FF Miesha Tate (23-26) FF Cassie Robb (2-3) FF Gina Carano (47-9) FFFallon Fox (7-12) FF Zoila Gurgel (37-23) FFMirko Cro Cop (41-23) HW Conor McGregor (14-15) LW Edwardo Dantas (0-1) LW Joachim Hansen (35-7) LW Shinya Aoki (32-32) LW Anderson Silva (65-10) MWBen Askren (15-22) MW Cung Le (50-21) MWYou have s urplus of MWs and FFs.
The Ultimate UnderdogsCris Cyborg (47-9) FF
Megumi Fujii (30-23) FFBobby Lashley (21-18) HW Rampage Jackson (33-28) HW Anthony Pettis (20-30) LW Akihiro Gono (3-3) LW Thiago Alves (36-15) MW
Paul Daley (24-13) MW
He has a surplus of FFs and MWs. The West Coast KnockoutsErin Toughill (28-24) FF Alistair Overeem (44-24, 1) HW Pedro Rizzo (23-25) HW Houston Alexander (23-26) HW Jose Aldo (31-26) LW
Benson Henderson (46-20) LWVitor Belfort (20-28) MW Nick Diaz (24-27) MW He has a surplus of LWs. Canadian BulldozersJennifer Howe (3-5) FF Lauren Murphy (14-4) FF
Marloes Coenen (34-21) FFShane Carwin (15-22) HW Mark Coleman (36-21) HW Mark Hunt (4-8) HW Cain Velasquez (27-24) HW Urijah Faber (28-23) LW Genki Sudo (2-3) LW Miguel Torres (13-16) LW Douglas Lima (1-0) MW Yushin Okami (11-18) MW Hayato Sakurai (2-3) MW Nate Marquardt (6-7) MW I have a surplus of FFs. Now out of everybody there why am I the one that is being targeted?? Why don't you give one of your women to Grapplemuch?? Or why not Underdogs or Ferocity?? Why are you only looking at my team that has one strong area while yours and others have 2 strong areas?? |
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 27, 2014 14:40:31 GMT -5
The surpluses you bolded were all built internally, not charity. Charity is my issue, not surplus.
And even BESIDES that, I have talked to many people on this list about sharing their surplus weight classes as well. I have tried to accomodate a 3 way trade with Ferocity, GrappleMuch and myself to move some of her HWs. I am in talks RE: Cung Le as I have said before, I helped get a deal done between Cannon and GrappleMuch to move one of his middleweights.
And again, the issue that this comes back to is Coenen is a top 5 female competitor (and current #1 contender) that you no longer need, and that you have 0 actual interest in. And she was a charity-trade. That's what it's all about here, man. The charity aspect. It's making me think we should reconsider the expansion draft route for new teams, if we can't trust the charity route.
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 27, 2014 14:43:48 GMT -5
ANd I thought you said you were done fighting. If you aren't going to change your mind, we are just wasting our time here and you are getting all worked out. Why not just drop it?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 14:47:17 GMT -5
ANd I thought you said you were done fighting. If you aren't going to change your mind, we are just wasting our time here and you are getting all worked out. Why not just drop it? I'm proving a point. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 27, 2014 14:47:51 GMT -5
You have definitely proved that apples and oranges are not the same thing, I will concede that.  |
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Have 9 points in celebration of this monumental achievement!