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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jan 28, 2015 17:52:48 GMT -5
Yes, you just proved my point. But even that is besides the point. Let's focus on this... Knowing MMA has nothing to do with building good fighters here. Cannon knows MMA but doesn't try to build people like real fighters at all - Rousey he was building to max out, so he is moot. GAP, who I have talked to several times about building fighters, is doing a technically fine job of building an MMA fighter, but you are not building MMA fighters, you are building fighters who fight in a simulator. Build Sarah to fight like she fights all you want, but if the simulator doesn't like what you are doing, you are fucked. What I do is exactly what I have been saying for 2 years here. It's no secret that you want to rebel against that because you think you know more than me, and that's fine. But my advice on how to build fighters with this simulator is working for most. Take it or leave it, but don't complain that you cannot build a good fighter or that you have bad luck when you blatantly ignore it and your fighters are constantly losing to fighters built with the system I have laid out. Honestly, if Bulldozers could do it, anyone could. If GAP's doing so well, explain Fedor... explain Diego... He has made strides with Chiesa & Carmouche, but he was the one that capped Fedor and Diego used to be a top fighter here, now he can barely beat any top tier fighter... some that have barely been upgraded. It has nothing to do with wanting to rebel or that I know anymore than you do, cuz up til this point right here, you've been claiming for those 2 years you were talking about that it's your MMA knowledge that allows you to build good fighters here... it's only now that you're admitting it's because you know the simulator. Cuz before, you wouldn't say anything even remotely close to knowing the simulator out of fear that folks would think you were cheating. It's not that you're cheating, one would expect that you know the simulator having worked with it for so long. The only advice I've ever really got from you has been about stamina or toughness, generally... you haven't laid out any system, cuz, for example, I when I took down Hansen's upgrades to see what you did with him, I essentially found that it was relatively similar to what I'd done with D'Alelio, yet Hansen has been a champion, D'Alelio has not and it honestly looks like that will never happen, even though she's capped and had tweaks. Brock should've been champion more times than I can shake a stick at, even before I had him, yet he's still only got the one title he won in like Season 1 or 2. And I really don't do anything that different from anyone else... I put points into the attributes these fighters either should already be good at or if they need some sort of elevation in their defense or aggression or something... no different than anyone else.
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Post by The Sandmen on Jan 28, 2015 18:31:01 GMT -5
If GAP's doing so well, explain Fedor... explain Diego... He has made strides with Chiesa & Carmouche, but he was the one that capped Fedor and Diego used to be a top fighter here, now he can barely beat any top tier fighter... some that have barely been upgraded. You're still missing what I am saying. Gap is doing well at making WELL ROUNDED FIGHTERS. Not, historically, at making good ManMMA fighters. His upgrades on Fedor have made him a complete fighter - a massively complete fighter. But that does not make a good ManMMA fighter. He has gone more 1-dimensional with Liz, despite working against her build in part, it seems, since I think she strikes a lot now, rather than wrestle, but Chiesa and Liz are still doing not bad for still project fighters. And Chiesa should take about 10 years to make any good...he is Chiesa, who is by no means a real MMA...anything. He's a massive project fighter. There is nothing really wrong with Diego. He fights well, and is now in a MW tournament, with guys a bit bigger than him and he is holding his own. He was a perpetual contender at LW. It has nothing to do with wanting to rebel or that I know anymore than you do, cuz up til this point right here, you've been claiming for those 2 years you were talking about that it's your MMA knowledge that allows you to build good fighters here... It's a mix. If Bulldozers built Murphy to be a kicker, he probably would have maxed her out before she reached her full potential. He asked me how to build her, I told him to make her a wrestler and how I would make a wrestler. He did that, and he got results. KNowing MMA and building people to their strengths goes hand-in-hand. Or, knowing NOTHING about MMA but listening to the feedback I leave from fights based on observing those fights also produces results, since it's fixing observable problems in a fighter. This all feels besides the point though. This isn't a dick-swinging contest about who knows or doesn't know MMA. It's about building champions. You keep saying I build champions, all I'm doing here is telling you (over and over again) exactly how I do it. You can disagree, and do your own thing - that's totally fine, and cool, but it kinda means you can't really get upset if my guys beat your guys.
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Post by xx - Team GAP on Jan 29, 2015 4:24:20 GMT -5
Just for the record... since my name has been mentoned a couple times, I thought i would talk about myself:
Fedor- Is losing but not all the time, I know i need to fix him a bit more... Diego- Diego is winning, he just switched to a dfifferent weight class and he is finding his stride. nothing wrong with him. Chiesa- Project fighter who has been a disappointment due to losses but is finally showing some skills now by getting some wins(finally paying off). He is still being upgraded. Caramouche- Has been interesting since I have seen different weaknesses. but she is also a bit of a project fighter. She gets wins now too. I believe I am doing well in the aspect that I am constantly upgrading my fighters and working hard at trying to get one step up on my opponents. My fighters do not always lose like they used to. My team has gotten a bunch better (especially this season due to trades and auctions.) I am always trying to get my team better and better. I also have won a few tourney's and I think i have a good chance at making GP and who knows maybe even win gp this season..
However, Where I believe I could be better is in winning a title. I have won tourneys as I said and whenever I face a champion I lose. I just have to climb that challenge and get past it. my problem is I am not sure how I can get myself past that problem. I have had a good run or two at the GP but never won. I think my team is a good team and I should get more recognition for my hard work. This comes from having a title to defend whether it is a GP title or a weight class title. My Team is strong. But I just need to win the BIG One.
This was my opinion.
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Post by The Rocketmen on Jan 29, 2015 6:59:19 GMT -5
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Post by The Mighty Ducks on Jan 29, 2015 12:02:10 GMT -5
dick move, rocket. dick move.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jan 29, 2015 14:12:36 GMT -5
This all feels besides the point though. This isn't a dick-swinging contest about who knows or doesn't know MMA. It's about building champions. You keep saying I build champions, all I'm doing here is telling you (over and over again) exactly how I do it. You can disagree, and do your own thing - that's totally fine, and cool, but it kinda means you can't really get upset if my guys beat your guys. 1) It never was a dick swinging contest to begin with, so there was no need to even make any point of that nature; it's invalid. 2) You never say anything over and over again pertaining to "how to do it" at all, yet somehow claim that you always do. Little tidbits about stamina once in a while in your post-fight synopsis doesn't qualify... So again, that's invalid as well. 3) It's more your "I'm holier than thou" attitude and arrogant nature in which you put forth your ideas, much like this statement you made above, that tends to get my ire up more than anything, especially when I'm already heated enough on my own with my own shit. So, yah... I can get a bit upset about your guys beating my guys or how my upgraded or capped fighters' lack of performance stacks up against the rest of the league because, as much as you love saying to the contrary (over and over again), I don't do anything vastly different than anyone else with my upgrades. You know this because you've said to me directly, on several occasions, that you don't understand why certain fighters of mine don't win more or perform better than they do, because you don't have the magic answer for why they don't perform as well as they should either. This is why I'm constantly saying that the simulator has some personal vendetta against my team or my fighters cuz it's really the only explanation as to why my upgrades don't seem as effective as others. It's not rational obviously, but neither is the fact that my upgrades seem to do little to nothing most of the time, whereas we see exponential growth in other fighters with just a few points. lol
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Post by The Sandmen on Jan 29, 2015 15:26:25 GMT -5
I addressed this in a different thread.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jan 29, 2015 17:34:57 GMT -5
I addressed this in a different thread. ROFL Yah, I saw... Way to spread out the topics like you always tell the rest of us not to do.
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Post by The Sandmen on Jan 29, 2015 17:43:36 GMT -5
I am not spreading out the topic, you are bitching in 2 threads, I am keeping our discussion confined to that one. I will continue to do that.
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Post by xx - Team GAP on Jan 29, 2015 21:57:13 GMT -5
Which thread is that?
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Post by The Sandmen on Jan 29, 2015 22:04:17 GMT -5
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jan 29, 2015 23:50:26 GMT -5
I am not spreading out the topic, you are bitching in 2 threads, I am keeping our discussion confined to that one. I will continue to do that. I wasn't bitching in that other thread... you took it that way cuz you were pissed off about this one, even though you said it was all fine when I'd texted you about your phone call the other day. lol But whatever... you wanna keep going over there or here... I don't really care. I've made my point and you keep validating it with your continuous misrepresentation of my words and partial quotes to inaccurately counterpoint things "I've said", which I wasn't even saying at all... not even in that wheelhouse on some of them. Stick to the facts man... I do.
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Post by The Sandmen on Jan 30, 2015 2:05:09 GMT -5
1) I have not been pissed off at all through any of this. I've been in a great mood since Christmas...except when our car broke down - that sucked.
2) Stick to the other thread. I'm not replying to anything else of this nature in this one.
3) Good fight from Chandler.
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Post by xx - Team GAP on Jan 30, 2015 3:23:56 GMT -5
1) I have pissed all through this. I've been in a mood since our car broke down. 2) Stick to not replying to nature. 3) Good fight. fixed. lol
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jan 30, 2015 21:59:33 GMT -5
1) I have pissed all through this. I've been in a mood since our car broke down. 2) Stick to not replying to nature. 3) Good fight. fixed. lol LMAO Yah, pretty much.
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