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Post by Lord Byron's Conquistadors on Apr 6, 2015 23:39:33 GMT -5
SO TIRED OF THIS
i suggest phx and sandmen should get a fucking restraining order. the whole god damn site is phx bitching about everything sandmen babbling a rabuttel, phx bitching more and babbling nonsense, sandmen explaining things so phx understands, phx doesn' understand anything, and it goes on FOR FUKING EVER!!!!!. GUYS NO ONE IS EVEN READING ALL YOUR SHIT get a fuckin room and fuck your angries away and come back fresh or some shit.
or what if we make a rule that if any post is over a paragraph long the poster is fined 5 posts??? can we do that?? guys like me on 3 minutes every 2 days don have time to catch up with 55 books over 55 threads of phx stirring shit up and sandmen playing into his trolling like a stooge or somethin. fuck.
phx shut up no one cares about all the fights you pick. you pick them every fucking thread and make up lies and bullshit and act like a victim no one cares and no one is out to get you the world is not a conspiracy alex jones nightmare of fucking fuk.
sandmen shut up no one cares about all the fights you feel phx is picking and you don need to keep explaining shit to him and to us. he is either trollin you and winning or he is a real idiot in real life and not worth the time. its like arguin with a down syndrome patient with als or somethin guy.
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Post by xx - The Underdog Regime on Apr 6, 2015 23:54:20 GMT -5
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Post by The Mighty Ducks on Apr 7, 2015 5:53:12 GMT -5
i agree and i never agree with byron, but for the love of fuck...
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Post by The Rocketmen on Apr 7, 2015 6:50:57 GMT -5
lol
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 7, 2015 12:09:28 GMT -5
@ Lord Byron's Conquistadors: My question is, if you're not reading it, why does it bother you so much? I hear you in the sense that I know I get long-winded with my responses... and I really wish it were as simple as making a one sentence or one paragraph post sometimes man. Thing is that if I don't get long-winded sometimes, what I say gets twisted into something that wasn't meant at all. For me, ot's about being crystal clear 95-98% of the time; not to pick fights, stir shit up or to troll anyone. When I speak up, I genuinely have an issue... and, unfortunately, Sandman REALLY doesn't like it when anyone disagrees with him about anything and seems to take it personally everytime, then it all goes downhill from there. Am I a saint in all this? No. I totally end up playing into that crap cuz I've learned to stick up for myself after having been bullied between the ages of 6 to 14, so I realize that my responses to some things are probably reactionary and likely a little rash, but, at the same time, I just don't put up with it anymore. If you think you can push me around, you got another thing coming... cuz Matt is my name, not my occupation. Now, the trouble with that is, many of us on this site feel that way too; "we're not going to put up with it". So it's inevitable that we're going have clashes, unfortunately, and Sandman and I happen to be right at the top of that list. It really doesn't matter who starts it or finishes it or even who "wins", not to me anyways... I just don't allow people to walk all over me anymore. So that's where my end of things comes from.
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 7, 2015 16:10:51 GMT -5
xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club: Correction. Sandmen always has, and always will, like when people disagree with him. Here, GMX, everywhere in life, I surround myself with people that disagree with me. But those people are people who are willing to discuss disagreements, and use logic to change my mind about something. I'm a man of logic, and as long as you have concrete logic, with facts and figures, my stance on pretty much anything is very fluid. You'll disagree with that until you are blue in the balls, but it's a fact that I think pretty much everyone here knows to be true. Lord Byron's Conquistadors: I think my problem is I feel that, as administrator of the site, I should make everything clear and that I have a duty to respond to members, even Kruze, when they don't have all the information about something (especially the sim or program), or have missed a piece of fact/research (i.e. because he was on his phone, for example). I have always felt the league is owed that, and have tried to just ignore situations like those that PHX presents but doesn't back up with any real logic or facts, but I just have a hard time with it. Same with those times when a particular member gets in a mood due to a loss and starts blaming the simmer or the program for his fighters shortcomings. I put too much work into keeping the site fair and unbiased to put up with that shit. THAT ALL BEING SAID, I think this is the right course of action: Then discuss that bullshit on skype where 1. no one benefits from the points earnings for babbling on incessantly, and 2. it's private, you can say what you need to say and discuss it among yourselves. No one here participates in these discussions because they are the same old same old. And the information is not beneficial to the rest of the members, so it doesn't really belong here. Take it outside (the site) boys. If anyone has an issue with something, contact me privately. Don't make complaints in the thread itself - it's just making a mess of everything for everyone else. So should we start this "restraining order" suggestion with that? Any complaints, objections to trades, rules, etc., be PMed to admin? Or, since I know some people here just like to be heard publicly, should I start a "Complaints" thread, where the person objecting to something can cite the thread they are on about without directly interfering in the thread itself? That might be a decent idea to start. Thoughts?
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Post by Lord Byron's Conquistadors on Apr 7, 2015 16:56:46 GMT -5
yea underdogs im serious. this been goin on for 2 years and its too much.. @phx it bothers me that is why im not reading it. i go on to read the site and don have time to catch up on 6 pages of fighting its a waste of time and i miss the good stuff. you both long winded and it just makes people like me not even read what your saying. make it shorter and then ill read it. thas how you be clear [quote author=" The Sandmen" source="/post/74686/thread" timestamp="1428441051 Lord Byron's Conquistadors: I think my problem is I feel that, as administrator of the site, I should make everything clear and that I have a duty to respond to members, even Kruze, when they don't have all the information about something (especially the sim or program), or have missed a piece of fact/research (i.e. because he was on his phone, for example). I have always felt the league is owed that, and have tried to just ignore situations like those that PHX presents but doesn't back up with any real logic or facts, but I just have a hard time with it. Same with those times when a particular member gets in a mood due to a loss and starts blaming the simmer or the program for his fighters shortcomings. I put too much work into keeping the site fair and unbiased to put up with that shit. [/quote] @sandmen we aint stupid tho. were here. we been here since beginning most of us. we know you don fuck up the simming and run a fair site. by now you should fukin know phx aint gonna listen to anything ytou say at all fact or otherwise so just learn to shut up and let it go. let him be wrong he only makes an asso fhimself. when he does that just walk the fuck away. you lettin him bring you down to his level and you tryin too hard. take a break take a breath and go to another thread. no one would be here if we thought anything was your fault or our figters sucked cuz of you so stop letting one guy get to you and remember everyoine else. we dont need replies from you to phx. we know the truth what we need from you is for you to shut the fuck up and stop arguing with phx. he will squak but were used to it and you should be too. everyone else here ignores his shit it aint admins job to answer everything. if you cant do that and if hes too much for you get rid of him or somethin cause you two aren workin and your alll makin it harder for the rest of us. fuk
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 7, 2015 17:10:26 GMT -5
You make some valid points there. I still think it's part of the job description to address any and all concerns of members, but if people such as yourself are feeling like doing so is bringing the site down, I'll try your advice for a bit and see what happens. I probably don't give the rest of the members enough credit most of the time, so you are probably on to something there. Thank you for your input.
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Post by xx - The Underdog Regime on Apr 7, 2015 17:24:22 GMT -5
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 7, 2015 17:27:03 GMT -5
@ The Sandmen: If any of that were actually true, we would have more actual discussions about things instead of what it always turns into. It may be true in your real life or perhaps it's only me you treat as you do, but I'm fully willing to have actual discussions when they're there to be had. The problem is that they never are, probably because of your "logic". Cuz it doesn't matter how many facts or other logic that is put before you, you refuse to look beyond your own narrow scope of things; your logic... and when attempts to pick something apart doesn't work, you deviate from the subject to draw away from the issue so it'll get lost... then if that doesn't work, you start attacking the person's character l, make it personal, and further distract from the topic, all the while claiming it's the other person doing all of the things you've been doing, and it all errodes from there... cuz if then that doesn't work, you just refuse to discuss anything after that point. I'm willing to talk... bring it. Have I resorted to some of this at times? In past, absolutely... and even now, I get sidetracked when a topic deviation happens and I don't back down when someone tries to attack my character. Is that part of the problem? Sure it is... I'm a man of my convictions, I stand by them and I always tell the truth as I see it. That unfortunately threatens some people.
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Post by The Rocketmen on Apr 7, 2015 18:54:25 GMT -5
lol at the random spiderman insert.
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 7, 2015 19:31:29 GMT -5
lol, That's our Solberg!
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Apr 7, 2015 20:33:23 GMT -5
@ Lord Byron's Conquistadors: My question is, if you're not reading it, why does it bother you so much? I hear you in the sense that I know I get long-winded with my responses... and I really wish it were as simple as making a one sentence or one paragraph post sometimes man. Thing is that if I don't get long-winded sometimes, what I say gets twisted into something that wasn't meant at all. For me, ot's about being crystal clear 95-98% of the time; not to pick fights, stir shit up or to troll anyone. When I speak up, I genuinely have an issue... and, unfortunately, Sandman REALLY doesn't like it when anyone disagrees with him about anything and seems to take it personally everytime, then it all goes downhill from there. Am I a saint in all this? No. I totally end up playing into that crap cuz I've learned to stick up for myself after having been bullied between the ages of 6 to 14, so I realize that my responses to some things are probably reactionary and likely a little rash, but, at the same time, I just don't put up with it anymore. If you think you can push me around, you got another thing coming... cuz Matt is my name, not my occupation. Now, the trouble with that is, many of us on this site feel that way too; "we're not going to put up with it". So it's inevitable that we're going have clashes, unfortunately, and Sandman and I happen to be right at the top of that list. It really doesn't matter who starts it or finishes it or even who "wins", not to me anyways... I just don't allow people to walk all over me anymore. So that's where my end of things comes from. shut up IAN
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 7, 2015 21:24:04 GMT -5
@ Lord Byron's Conquistadors: My question is, if you're not reading it, why does it bother you so much? I hear you in the sense that I know I get long-winded with my responses... and I really wish it were as simple as making a one sentence or one paragraph post sometimes man. Thing is that if I don't get long-winded sometimes, what I say gets twisted into something that wasn't meant at all. For me, ot's about being crystal clear 95-98% of the time; not to pick fights, stir shit up or to troll anyone. When I speak up, I genuinely have an issue... and, unfortunately, Sandman REALLY doesn't like it when anyone disagrees with him about anything and seems to take it personally everytime, then it all goes downhill from there. Am I a saint in all this? No. I totally end up playing into that crap cuz I've learned to stick up for myself after having been bullied between the ages of 6 to 14, so I realize that my responses to some things are probably reactionary and likely a little rash, but, at the same time, I just don't put up with it anymore. If you think you can push me around, you got another thing coming... cuz Matt is my name, not my occupation. Now, the trouble with that is, many of us on this site feel that way too; "we're not going to put up with it". So it's inevitable that we're going have clashes, unfortunately, and Sandman and I happen to be right at the top of that list. It really doesn't matter who starts it or finishes it or even who "wins", not to me anyways... I just don't allow people to walk all over me anymore. So that's where my end of things comes from. shut up IAN Lmao That's not my name... but hey, I call you Normand all the time, so you go ahead if it makes you feel better about yourself bud. Knock yourself out... just don't expect a response all the time.
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Apr 7, 2015 21:25:13 GMT -5
Lmao That's not my name... but hey, I call you Normand all the time, so you go ahead if it makes you feel better about yourself bud. Knock yourself out... just don't expect a response all the time. whatever you say IAN aslong as it isnt a fucking book about it keep it short and sweet n simple IAN
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