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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 15, 2015 17:34:38 GMT -5
didn read phx saga of greek tragedy proportions but i look at the facts and the rankings look reasonble to me. i mean hard to argue theres no diversity when your in the gp finals or win one year and you are last the next. also i noticed phx you counted yourself as a bottom 2 in season 11 when grapplemuch and soviet union were both below you. guess we know your stats aint reliable lmao wtf??? No greek tradgedy there man... questions were asked and answered. And as you can see from Sandman's post, Grapplemuch? was N/A for Season 11 which does put me in the bottom 2 for that season. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 15, 2015 17:51:47 GMT -5
there have been 8 different teams in the top 3 slots between season 13-9 and in a weird co-incidence 8 different teams in the bottom between those same seasons. , the information you posted did not address this. I am interested in why you don't think 8 different teams being in the top 3 and 8 different teams being in the bottom 3 doesn't amount to diversity. |
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Post by Ferocity on Apr 15, 2015 18:57:19 GMT -5
@phoenix, I do see that you have been in the bottom a lot, and I imagine that must suck. I know I would find it disheartening. But there isn't any one else who is consistently at the bottom, which leads me to believe there might be a problem with your team. Now, realizing I have no idea who is on your team, or anything, do you have dead-weight you could trade or get rid of?
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 16, 2015 0:52:02 GMT -5
@phoenix, I do see that you have been in the bottom a lot, and I imagine that must suck. I know I would find it disheartening. But there isn't any one else who is consistently at the bottom, which leads me to believe there might be a problem with your team. Now, realizing I have no idea who is on your team, or anything, do you have dead-weight you could trade or get rid of? You tell me... cuz the last time I PM'd you about a trade I received no response at all, not even a no. And I'm getting tired of explaining why I carry a larger roster... you've heard it before... in this thread. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 16, 2015 2:42:31 GMT -5
there have been 8 different teams in the top 3 slots between season 13-9 and in a weird co-incidence 8 different teams in the bottom between those same seasons. , the information you posted did not address this. I am interested in why you don't think 8 different teams being in the top 3 and 8 different teams being in the bottom 3 doesn't amount to diversity. |
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Post by Lord Byron's Conquistadors on Apr 16, 2015 2:47:42 GMT -5
didn read phx saga of greek tragedy proportions but i look at the facts and the rankings look reasonble to me. i mean hard to argue theres no diversity when your in the gp finals or win one year and you are last the next. also i noticed phx you counted yourself as a bottom 2 in season 11 when grapplemuch and soviet union were both below you. guess we know your stats aint reliable lmao wtf??? No greek tradgedy there man... questions were asked and answered. And as you can see from Sandman's post, Grapplemuch? was N/A for Season 11 which does put me in the bottom 2 for that season. he was N/A he was still out of the gp and undisputably had a shittier team than you that season kinda convenient for you to leave that part out aint it? i tried to give him half my team his team was so shit lmao. and who said this had to be fair??? i had fuckin dial up for 2 and a half years ffs! it took me 3 YEARS to get into the title picture and i aint never been in gp finals. PHX you there just season before last man. you doin better than me by a boat |
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Post by Lord Byron's Conquistadors on Apr 16, 2015 2:47:57 GMT -5
sorry sandmen i post same time as you didn mean to bury your quote
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 16, 2015 6:50:02 GMT -5
No greek tradgedy there man... questions were asked and answered. And as you can see from Sandman's post, Grapplemuch? was N/A for Season 11 which does put me in the bottom 2 for that season. he was N/A he was still out of the gp and undisputably had a shittier team than you that season kinda convenient for you to leave that part out aint it? i tried to give him half my team his team was so shit lmao. and who said this had to be fair??? i had fuckin dial up for 2 and a half years ffs! it took me 3 YEARS to get into the title picture and i aint never been in gp finals. PHX you there just season before last man. you doin better than me by a boat Depends on how you look at it in terms of me doing better than you and vice versa since you're saying it only took you 3 years to get into the title picture. Technically, I'm only just barely in the title picture myself... the two titles I have won were obtained by fighters that I had acquired just prior to them winning the titles; Franklin & Cruz. You claim I'm further ahead by a boat, I don't see it that way at all. As for Grapplemuch?, you do know what N/A means, right? In this case, he was N/A cuz he had like 3-4 fights total on the season due starting up again an event or 2 prior to the GP. If he was bottom 2, there would be a number by his name there, not an N/A. there have been 8 different teams in the top 3 slots between season 13-9 and in a weird co-incidence 8 different teams in the bottom between those same seasons. , the information you posted did not address this. I am interested in why you don't think 8 different teams being in the top 3 and 8 different teams being in the bottom 3 doesn't amount to diversity. Like the GP, it's about the percentages overall the last 10-11 seasons. It clearly shows that the same folks are up at the top more often and the same folks are at the bottom more often. 4 of those 8 teams (50%) are the spikes I've been talking about where a mid-tier or a bottom tier team has one good season then drops right back down to where they were or worse the next season. Also, one of those top.teams isn't here anymore; Ramrod. So if there was any real diversity, parity or otherwise significant improvements to teams, they'd be atleast somewhat sustainable for those teams... and I'd be the only one that was significantly having the spiking issue due to my roster size. |
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Post by Ferocity on Apr 16, 2015 12:02:19 GMT -5
I know why you have a larger team, but either than the post-count issue (which is no longer an issue and hasn't been in many seasons) I don't see how your choices aren't your responsibility. You choose a larger team, you get a more spread out application of points.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 16, 2015 14:28:24 GMT -5
I know why you have a larger team, but either than the post-count issue (which is no longer an issue and hasn't been in many seasons) I don't see how your choices aren't your responsibility. You choose a larger team, you get a more spread out application of points. Yes, that is what happens, and it is calculated. It is also a choice; lesser of two evils, basically, but at the same 2 seasons of relative quiet doesn't quell the 'paranoia', I guess we can call it, after more than 6 seasons of it being an issue. As for trading, I have no problem trading some fighters, but I've got my untouchables, same you and many others do... trouble with that is my untouchables are the only ones that anyone's interested in. |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Apr 16, 2015 14:50:25 GMT -5
I think updated rosters were posted recently, and I'm going to say something nice, and then something you'll take as criticism, but it really isn't meant to come off that way. The nice part: literally trade me anyone you don't care about anymore, and I'll give you some fun talent you can work with  The "this will be taken the wrong way" part: since everyone else fluctuates in the standings, and you have a significantly larger roster and your points are spread out, aren't you basically asking for bonus points for having a "too big" roster when you finish last? Because that seems to be how it's coming across as this point. "I wanted a big roster, now give me more points." But regardless of that, this is my roster as of the end of the last season, and I haven't chnaged anything other than like adding Rich Franklin - I'm not trading him currently. The Rocketmen Katja Kankaanpaa (1-1) FF 1 - 1 Megumi Fujii (35-27) FF 4 - 2 Stephan Bonnar (26-29) HW 0 - 3 Gary Goodridge (10-9) HW 3 - 2 Cain Velasquez (32-27) HW 4 - 2 Gilbert Melendez (19-22) LW 2 - 2 Michael Chandler (25-15) LW 5 - 1 Johny Hendricks (7-17) MW 2 - 1 Matt Serra (7-20) MW 1 - 3 Frank Shamrock (21-26) MW 1 - 3 Wanderlei Silva (45-24) MW 5 - 1 |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 16, 2015 15:16:02 GMT -5
@ The Rocketmen: I don't take offense to that at all, cuz I can see how it can be viewed that way, but that's not the intent behind it. I'm not gonna be in the bottom two always or forever. lol As I get more comfortable that folks aren't going to go after my PPP, I'll likely start downsizing again. I'm honestly most comfortable at 20 fighters, not 25 where I'm at now, but at the same time, I have allot of fighters big potential, and not just the rated ones either. There's some guys there, on my team right now, that I don't wanna trade just to see them dropped. |
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Post by xx - The Underdog Regime on Apr 16, 2015 15:39:23 GMT -5
UnderDogs: Top 5 Finishes = 3/7 (42%) | Bottom 2 Finishes = 2/7 (29%) S12: 3rdS11: 2nd (Tie) S10: 11thS9: 6th S8: 5thS7: 9th S6: 10th You can see how back and forth I was until I had that ultimate lineup of Lashley/Rampage/Cyborg/Daley. Then again, I had the least amount of fighters in the league starting in S7, so whenever someone had a bad year, it affected me in the standings (see S10). |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 16, 2015 15:48:13 GMT -5
UnderDogs: Top 5 Finishes = 3/7 (42%) | Bottom 2 Finishes = 2/7 (29%) S12: 3rdS11: 2nd (Tie) S10: 11thS9: 6th S8: 5thS7: 9th S6: 10th You can see how back and forth I was until I had that ultimate lineup of Lashley/Rampage/Cyborg/Daley. Then again, I had the least amount of fighters in the league starting in S7, so whenever someone had a bad year, it affected me in the standings (see S10). Absolutely... you were a mid-tier until that point that had one of the negative spikes. You were very lucky in that regard.... and that Lashley turned out too... bastard.  lol :-P j/k |
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Post by xx - The Underdog Regime on Apr 16, 2015 15:51:46 GMT -5
You can see how back and forth I was until I had that ultimate lineup of Lashley/Rampage/Cyborg/Daley. Then again, I had the least amount of fighters in the league starting in S7, so whenever someone had a bad year, it affected me in the standings (see S10). Absolutely... you were a mid-tier until that point that had one of the negative spikes. You were very lucky in that regard.... and that Lashley turned out too... bastard. lol :-P j/k Too much ground game upgrades  |
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lol :-P j/k 
