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Post by The Sandmen on Aug 15, 2015 22:59:54 GMT -5
Using Bantamweight and flyweight would confuse me, since they are BW and FW in the program - but the program means Featherweight, not flyweight.
The confusion issue comes up when i am setting up the sim.
Are you okay with Bantamweight and Featherweight?
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Aug 16, 2015 2:14:08 GMT -5
We can't really call the flyweights, bantamweights... that'd be kind of silly and also misleading to new members. Not to mention it would make the site seem kind of janky that we don't have them labeled properly. I don't see how we get around that unless we keep it the way it is or you're able to keep it straight that they're the other way around. I know for me personally, I wouldn't have a problem calling them one way on the site but they were different on the simulator... but again, that's me.
I also thought there was a lower weightclass or 2 beyond Bantamweight on the simulator too, if I remember correctly... I could be wrong. I haven't opened it for nearly a year now.
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Post by The Sandmen on Aug 16, 2015 3:43:52 GMT -5
You probably would have a problem with it because if you were in my position, for the past 3 and a half years, 2-3 times a week "BW" has been the the symbol for women's division (including the championship lineage that is now the women's middleweight belt). That's about 296 cards and 4600 fights. For all those cards, the BW division has been dominated primarily by heavier weight-class women.
Ideally, I would have switched the lighter women to FW - that would have made the most sense in my brain - but as I said, that actually makes them heavier then the Cyborgs, Rouseys, etc.
But yeah, there's nothing below Bantamweight. So right now, the thing is the career Bantamweights (like Rousey) are fighting at 145 since there is nothing lower then Bantamweight (135). Really all we're talking about (because of that) is calling people what they are in the program.
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Post by The Rocketmen on Aug 16, 2015 5:40:58 GMT -5
He did, but to be fair, he's not that bright. (Referenced to the Newfoundlander comment earlier, as I did not see page 2)
And yeah, again, whatever is easiest, I'm cool with.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Aug 16, 2015 11:11:57 GMT -5
You probably would have a problem with it because if you were in my position, for the past 3 and a half years, 2-3 times a week "BW" has been the the symbol for women's division (including the championship lineage that is now the women's middleweight belt). That's about 296 cards and 4600 fights. For all those cards, the BW division has been dominated primarily by heavier weight-class women. Ideally, I would have switched the lighter women to FW - that would have made the most sense in my brain - but as I said, that actually makes them heavier then the Cyborgs, Rouseys, etc. But yeah, there's nothing below Bantamweight. So right now, the thing is the career Bantamweights (like Rousey) are fighting at 145 since there is nothing lower then Bantamweight (135). Really all we're talking about (because of that) is calling people what they are in the program. Yeah, I understand that you've been doing it a certain way for so many years, but as you say, things do change and evolve. Like I said though, for me, I'd still be able to make the separation because my brain does work like that. Do what you've got to do, I guess... but ultimately, and ideally, for the site, calling the lighter class flyweights and the heavier bantamweights or featherweights would be the better route. Hmmm... being that you figured out how to add venues, would it not be the same for adding a weight class? Like just a couple extra steps maybe? |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Aug 16, 2015 13:32:09 GMT -5
I'm not familiar enough with the program to make an assumption that the weight classes could be added or altered in any way unless The Sandmen has the ability to re-code a program. |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Aug 16, 2015 14:11:58 GMT -5
I'm not familiar enough with the program to make an assumption that the weight classes could be added or altered in any way unless The Sandmen has the ability to re-code a program. It's not a re-coding of the program type of thing, I don't think. From what I remember of it when I was using it, it'd simply be adding the name Flyweight to the weightclass files and a flyweight fighter folder in the fighters section; much like adding venues to the program, just a couple more steps. |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Aug 16, 2015 15:11:47 GMT -5
Right, well, whatever is easiest, I reiterate.
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Post by The Sandmen on Aug 16, 2015 15:29:40 GMT -5
Hmmm... being that you figured out how to add venues, would it not be the same for adding a weight class? Like just a couple extra steps maybe? As Mike kinda hinted at, weight class would require real coding. The Venues are one editable list in a single editable program document found in the program files (named "venues"). Weight classes are 8 pre-set categories within the program itself, identified in the program only within the fighters builds themselves. Within the programs aesthetic architecture, there are only the 8 pre-existing weightclasses. Rather then an endless drop-down list like venues, weight classes only have the 8 catagories. To convert it to NHL 15, it's the difference between editing a players overalls, and adding a gender. One you can do easily, the other you have to re-write the game. I could make the women super-heavyweights though....that could be interesting. |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Aug 16, 2015 15:52:08 GMT -5
Probably more knockouts.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Aug 16, 2015 16:33:38 GMT -5
Hmmm... being that you figured out how to add venues, would it not be the same for adding a weight class? Like just a couple extra steps maybe? As Mike kinda hinted at, weight class would require real coding. The Venues are one editable list in a single editable program document found in the program files (named "venues"). Weight classes are 8 pre-set categories within the program itself, identified in the program only within the fighters builds themselves. Within the programs aesthetic architecture, there are only the 8 pre-existing weightclasses. Rather then an endless drop-down list like venues, weight classes only have the 8 catagories. To convert it to NHL 15, it's the difference between editing a players overalls, and adding a gender. One you can do easily, the other you have to re-write the game. I could make the women super-heavyweights though....that could be interesting. Well, this got me thinking about it and got me curious, so I opened it up after I made that comment this morning and I was able to create a new weight class without any coding or re-writing the game; just information input. It wasn't that difficult either. |
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Post by The Mighty Ducks on Aug 16, 2015 16:57:25 GMT -5
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Post by xx - The Underdog Regime on Aug 16, 2015 21:37:42 GMT -5
How about Womens Div I and Div II.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Aug 16, 2015 21:43:46 GMT -5
I think we got it figured out now. lol
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Post by xx - The Underdog Regime on Aug 16, 2015 22:41:13 GMT -5
How about a two seperate divisions where Ronda dominates one, and Cyborg dominates the other?
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Have 9 points in celebration of this monumental achievement!