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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Oct 10, 2015 11:50:23 GMT -5
I'm confused now. So everyone so far, except for Bulldozers (who wanted change) now doesn't want change? If this new rule came into place immediately, then Bulldozers would be squared up immediately with Sandman on his trades for his fighters to get back into the league, and then moving forward everyone is even. No matter what, no one will ever be even from the start of the site to now because of all that has happened, but I think enough "here's a good fighter" trades have happened to try and help that, and this idea by Ferocity bridges the gap moving forward. This is accurate, however, what I'm tired of is the fact that with every suggestion any of the rest of us have made before, it gets discussed into the season and we're told that it won't effect until the next season if it's decided to be a new thing. But Sandman will just turn around and fast track his own ideas or something like this, without batting an eye when he's already asked that any new suggestions be made and broached at this point of the season so that we can implement it for the following season. And as much as I like this idea and I'd benefit from it immediately... as member of this site, I'd honestly much rather see Sandman follow his own rules, procedures and precedents for a change, instead of bending and breaking them all the time for himself, but outright refuses to do it for anyone else. He keeps preaching that we have rules and procedures in place for a reason. It's time he adhered to them himself too. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Oct 10, 2015 13:43:28 GMT -5
I moved this for the very reason I asked you to stop posing it in that thread - you are side-tracking the discussion.
So now I will address this babble, here, in the trash thread, where it belongs (with Mike's hot, kinda whorey sister).
1) Please show me the "rule" that says all suggestions, even those that majorly benefit the entire league on a dime, MUST wait until the following season?
2) There is no consistent precedent to when rules come into effect - they come in when they make the most sense. This change is INCREDIBLY easy, so the change can come in any time without affecting anything at all on my end.
3) WHy are you so obsessive about this? What is it about making things fair faster that has you freaking out about following invisible rules that literally don't exist? Or a precedent that has absolutely no real consistency to it? Is it because you plan on picking a few more meaningless fights to boost your points before the change...? Kinda looks that way dude...
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Oct 10, 2015 14:35:58 GMT -5
Oh look, another troll thread created for people telling the truth. #TypicalSandmanBullshit
Grow up and be a man already Justin... or at the very least standby your own decrees and convictions and not only when it suits you. You're pathetic.
1) You've asked us numerous times to come up with suggestions at this point in the season so that we have time to implement them for the following season. It's only ever when YOU want something now, that it gets put in immediately, and many times without discussions about it being completed or you just don't give a damn what people think, despite asking for people's opinions. You don't want to hear any opinions ever that are opposed to yours and you'll do everything you can to try an muzzle them, even when they're not wrong.
2) Oh there is... Because any time there's a rule that you came up with, you want or that you're excited about, gets put in immediately regardless of any opposition posed towards it whereas anything else that's not is always put off until the end of the season. It ALWAYS happens. There's no consistency. You need to start following your own decrees instead of this crap of following them whenever it suits you.
3) It's not an obsession. It's the fact you place these rules and decrees onto everyone else but, for whatever reason, yet you don't think you have to follow them yourself and the reality is that you should be following them the most out of anyone since they're from you own brain trust. Then you come up with these defamatory comments towards the person opposing you to deflect from the actual issue. It's constant cycle with you. Maybe you should look at yourself in the mirror for a change and see what it is you're actually doing and how it actually affects your integrity and that of the site rather than try and deflect it onto folks that are actually trying to keep you honest and do things properly around here too, as you seem to expect everyone else to do, but you somehow believe that you don't have to. I don't need to pick fights to pick up my post totals... There's plenty of threads on this site I can post on at will.
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Post by The Rocketmen on Oct 10, 2015 14:48:27 GMT -5
Uh, hmm. Speechless.
Everyone wants it, let's just go forward with it. We already have an almost overwhelming acceptance of it.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Oct 10, 2015 19:10:34 GMT -5
Uh, hmm. Speechless. Everyone wants it, let's just go forward with it. We already have an almost overwhelming acceptance of it. That's not the point at all. You obviously find it perfectly acceptable that Sandman doesn't follow his own protocols. That's not surprising considering your relationship with him, but the fact is that not once have we changed the PPP system until the end of the season. That's how it's been done, but now it's fine? What makes this any different? It was a suggestion brought in at the right time, but all changes to rules, PPP, etc. have all been made in the off-season. Period. This is just like the situation with that trade he made with Byron for nothing man. Not only had he told me 2 weeks prior to that, that he didn't want those types of trades happening in ManMMA anymore, he'd denied a trade between me and GAP for what amounted to the same thing, but he went even further to also tag both of us in that deal to ask our opinion. Then after brow beating my opinion out of me, which he claimed to want, I was then ostracized for that opinion and the trade probably went through anyways. But you see this is what Sandman does constantly. He tells folks they can't do something, then turns around and does it himself like it's perfectly ok for him to do it. I dunno what you guys call that in your warped little reality, but in the real world, that's called a hypocrite. This is no different if you go ahead and put the new points idea in immediately, no matter how good of an idea it is. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Oct 10, 2015 21:21:05 GMT -5
a whole bunch of babble about having rules about when we bring changes in, and not a single citation of a single rule. That's our Kruze, lol.
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Post by xx - Former Bulldozers on Oct 10, 2015 22:06:29 GMT -5
Request that every post from this thread to be deleted from their post totals including this one
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Oct 11, 2015 10:46:41 GMT -5
a whole bunch of babble about having rules about when we bring changes in, and not a single citation of a single rule. That's our Kruze, lol. You've said so countless times, yet conveniently forget when it doesn't suit your purposes anymore. You try and use our private conversations all the time as to make points about others, yet you shit on anyone that cites them to make points with you. It works both ways Justin, not just when it suits you. |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Oct 11, 2015 11:09:17 GMT -5
Kruze. Who fucking cares? This benefits the entire league. As Chef Ramsey says... "SHUT IT DOWN."
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Oct 11, 2015 11:27:14 GMT -5
Kruze. Who fucking cares? This benefits the entire league. As Chef Ramsey says... "SHUT IT DOWN." It's not so much the ends of it Mike; it's the principle of it. I mean I have it happen to me where I've had to wait until the end of the season for my PPP to change, why should this be any different? That's all I was getting at with this. But now with him trying to screw me out of my last point that I earned on the old system, that wasn't even related to post whoring on either of these threads, just solidifies my feeling that he does do things here that are meant to screw me over or "punish" me. Situations like this don't exactly sway my thinking away from that notion... especially when it was this blatant. Why should people on the site be "punished" for having a different opinion than him or point out to him that he's creating double standards for himself? |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Oct 11, 2015 11:59:27 GMT -5
Again, I already heard that point ten times. Stop repeating it.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Oct 11, 2015 12:04:49 GMT -5
Again, I already heard that point ten times. Stop repeating it. Really? Yet that's the first time you've actually acknowledged it. Hmmm... funny that. a whole bunch of babble about having rules about when we bring changes in, and not a single citation of a single rule. That's our Kruze, lol. It's right in the in the "How Stuff Works" Section in "Season Flow Chart": 2. Event 10 (ManMMA 230, 250, 270, etc)- Mid-season point-bonus payout. - This is also the absolute best time to suggest changes for next season! Waiting until the end of the season leads to problems, as starting event 20, The Sandmen becomes busy as hell on a regular basis. GP is exhausting. |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Oct 11, 2015 12:15:58 GMT -5
Just because I don't directly quote you on something and inform you specifically that I read it, doesn't mean I didn't read it. It also doesn't mean the rest of the league didn't already see it as well. Maybe that's been the problem the entire time. You assume the league doesn't read your comments, so you just keep repeating them, and people get irritated over your constant essays that you write because you re-write everything to everyone whenever they comment to make sure they got your point.
News Flash - they did.
Secondary Headline? No one cared.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Oct 11, 2015 12:19:17 GMT -5
Just because I don't directly quote you on something and inform you specifically that I read it, doesn't mean I didn't read it. It also doesn't mean the rest of the league didn't already see it as well. Maybe that's been the problem the entire time. You assume the league doesn't read your comments, so you just keep repeating them, and people get irritated over your constant essays that you write because you re-write everything to everyone whenever they comment to make sure they got your point. News Flash - they did. Secondary Headline? No one cared. It garners repetition obviously if you're sitting there making untrue statements or the wrong interpretations of what I've said that apparently need to be clarified or you would've understood what I said already. |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Oct 11, 2015 13:02:46 GMT -5
Just because I don't directly quote you on something and inform you specifically that I read it, doesn't mean I didn't read it. It also doesn't mean the rest of the league didn't already see it as well. Maybe that's been the problem the entire time. You assume the league doesn't read your comments, so you just keep repeating them, and people get irritated over your constant essays that you write because you re-write everything to everyone whenever they comment to make sure they got your point. News Flash - they did. Secondary Headline? No one cared. |
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