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Post by The Mighty Ducks on Dec 22, 2015 0:50:38 GMT -5
my point to your last comment is that (though suggested and not proven by you that you actually had a card you didn't have a fight on) those of us with half the roster you have see even less than that by a full 60%. thats my biggest issue. if you have 25 fighters, and i have 10, and sandman's been matching the 3-4 fights per season, im getting upwards of 40 fights, and you're getting upwards of 100, not including tournaments.
now, he's suggesting that we might see 2 or 3 fights, which alters that number to me now getting upwards of 30 fights, and you getting upwards of 75. if you apply that to 20 cards per season, im getting 1.5 fighters per card, you're getting over 3.25 fighters per card.
so, again, the enjoyability factor is magnified by 2.5 times more than anyone else on this site can enjoy... that you have like 3 times the amount of posts since the site opened, and now that we're all on an even playing field for salaries, it doesn't make any sense that you can continue to out-man everyone on every card.
it literally takes 2 teams, sometimes half of another, to even match the amount of total fighters on a card.
so, no, i dont want to have my guys fighting less to accommodate your team being able to sustain its full amount of fights in a season. your bottom end fighters on your roster, no matter who you believe them to be, are taking the spot that my fighter and someone else's should be getting. Again, stressing the 60% ratio of your team compared to everyone else.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Dec 22, 2015 1:22:17 GMT -5
my point to your last comment is that (though suggested and not proven by you that you actually had a card you didn't have a fight on) those of us with half the roster you have see even less than that by a full 60%. thats my biggest issue. if you have 25 fighters, and i have 10, and sandman's been matching the 3-4 fights per season, im getting upwards of 40 fights, and you're getting upwards of 100, not including tournaments. now, he's suggesting that we might see 2 or 3 fights, which alters that number to me now getting upwards of 30 fights, and you getting upwards of 75. if you apply that to 20 cards per season, im getting 1.5 fighters per card, you're getting over 3.25 fighters per card. so, again, the enjoyability factor is magnified by 2.5 times more than anyone else on this site can enjoy... that you have like 3 times the amount of posts since the site opened, and now that we're all on an even playing field for salaries, it doesn't make any sense that you can continue to out-man everyone on every card. it literally takes 2 teams, sometimes half of another, to even match the amount of total fighters on a card. so, no, i dont want to have my guys fighting less to accommodate your team being able to sustain its full amount of fights in a season. your bottom end fighters on your roster, no matter who you believe them to be, are taking the spot that my fighter and someone else's should be getting. Again, stressing the 60% ratio of your team compared to everyone else. I'm not saying that's an entirely unfair assessment, but trying to force me to downsize, immediately and all at once, isn't fair to me either man. I've worked my ass off, as you said with how I was posting before, to get a lot of these fighters to where they are and I do deserve something for that; and something more than 1 point a piece. Now, I've been saying this entire time that I'm willing to cut my roster down through trades, because that's the fairest way to do it for me. And there's teams like yours that have only have one fighter in a particular weight class... I'm also not the only large team on the site either though man. I realize that you're targeting me because I have the largest but Sandman's at 19, both Cannon & GAP have 18... Cannon with now 7 FWs after drafting Lee. Do you really think that they don't affect your numbers and percentages up there at all too? |
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Post by The Mighty Ducks on Dec 22, 2015 2:08:19 GMT -5
I think they do, but they do it 30% less than you do. Start at the top, work the way down. The Sandmen already agreed to drop to a lower number than his own roster. Should we make it fair and even across the board and have everyone in the league have a mandatory static-roster total? 13-14 fighters period? Is that the best way to do it? I don't know. I certainly don't have the answers, but I do see a problem, I've identified it, and it stems from over-sizes rosters and league-wide enjoyability. I'm not saying you shouldn't have fun, but telling everyone that didn't go out and add an additional 15 fighters that you somehow deserve payment of some sort to downsize, which further promotes the competition of your then-remaining fighters, doesn't seem fair either, considering you essentially wasted two years ranting to upgrade a hundred fighters (obviously that is an exaggeration). |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Dec 22, 2015 2:45:18 GMT -5
I think it's much ado about nothing if it's being booked properly.
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Post by Lord Byron's Conquistadors on Dec 22, 2015 2:58:02 GMT -5
suggestion to fix this mess leave things as is til half way point, at half way point drop to 25 cap by end of season make it 23 cap by start of next season make it 20 cap. gives anyone over lots of time to figure their team and keep the guys tht belong or make trades or whatever. lots of time
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Post by The West Coast Knockouts on Dec 22, 2015 6:43:54 GMT -5
I like how phx pisses off people by attacking them and then likes playing the role of the victim. It never gets old hahaha
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Dec 22, 2015 12:07:10 GMT -5
suggestion to fix this mess leave things as is til half way point, at half way point drop to 25 cap by end of season make it 23 cap by start of next season make it 20 cap. gives anyone over lots of time to figure their team and keep the guys tht belong or make trades or whatever. lots of time If given time to do it, I'm currently willing to drop down to 22, at most, provided I can find trade partners and homes for some of these guys/gals. I like how phx pisses off people by attacking them and then likes playing the role of the victim. It never gets old hahaha If you think I was the one doing the attacking, you're seriously mistaken bub. You don't have to deal with this every off-season, I do. The moment it was suggested that I be the only one to cut fighters from my team, it was a targeted attack on me. No one else was being suggested to cut from their teams until it became a threat by Sandman because I will only trade down and refuse to drop many of them at 1 point apiece because of the time and investment I've put into them. And being that I'm even willing to do that, you and your little pygmy roster should be ecstatic. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Dec 22, 2015 13:07:32 GMT -5
I think it's much ado about nothing if it's being booked properly. Please elaborate in detail how you would "book properly". I am eager to learn from your ideas. |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Dec 22, 2015 13:19:22 GMT -5
I think it's much ado about nothing if it's being booked properly. Please elaborate in detail how you would "book properly". I am eager to learn from your ideas. Why?  1) I already have... and 2) I wasn't saying that you weren't booking properly. In fact I've said numerous times now that I think you are booking properly. Meaning that I don't think that you sit there giving my fighters fights and preferential treatment over others because of my roster size. They get their fights on their own merit and how they're fighting. There's no need to be defensive here man... I wasn't saying anything untoward about you or your booking. |
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Dec 22, 2015 14:07:50 GMT -5
why is everyone still going on about the fucking roster size this isnt even a issue the issue is my fighter fighting 2 -3 times a year which i approve of.. you guy just dunno when to fucking stop omg.
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Post by The Sandmen on Dec 22, 2015 14:09:25 GMT -5
xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club, I think you're the one being defensive here dude. I'm about to start booking 301, and if you have a better system for booking (or even any workable ideas I am not doing), I would be happy to incorporate it into what I do to make my life (and everyone else's around here) easier. I'm just looking for a good, detailed reply, whether you think you have told me before or not (I have no record or recollection of you giving me advice on how I should be booking fights). And xx - Camp Cannon, congrats, but you are in the minority right now. More people would like to see some balance in fights per year, so we're working on that. If you have nothing to contribute, let those who have ideas work it out. Thank you.
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Dec 22, 2015 14:17:04 GMT -5
the size of roster do not matter when those fucking cry babys with 1 fighter in each fucking weight class decide tgo take points everydraft then cry wonder why they arent getting any fights hello its your own fucking fault draft a fucking fighter.. if i have 2 lose fighter because them i want like quadruple the point back for them plus what points i put into thhem fucking whiner cry baby bitches.
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Post by The Mighty Ducks on Dec 22, 2015 14:24:37 GMT -5
dude, have you not been reading anything here? we were told that there are too many fighters in the league to accomodate everyone 3-4 fights per fighter per season. TOO MANY. we are trying to correct that while maintaining high competition amongst all the fighters. that's all dude, now chill out.
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Dec 22, 2015 14:28:24 GMT -5
dude, have you not been reading anything here? we were told that there are too many fighters in the league to accomodate everyone 3-4 fights per fighter per season. TOO MANY. we are trying to correct that while maintaining high competition amongst all the fighters. that's all dude, now chill out. which started out by u attacking peoples roster size so fuck u stop your whyning problem was fixed page 2 by having fighter fight 2 -3 times a season.. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Dec 22, 2015 14:30:30 GMT -5
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1) I already have... and 2) I wasn't saying that you weren't booking properly. In fact I've said numerous times now that I think you are booking properly. Meaning that I don't think that you sit there giving my fighters fights and preferential treatment over others because of my roster size. They get their fights on their own merit and how they're fighting. There's no need to be defensive here man... I wasn't saying anything untoward about you or your booking.
Have 9 points in celebration of this monumental achievement!