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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Feb 24, 2016 1:41:05 GMT -5
Sounds like some good fights on this card: The top 7 fights on the card look extremely interesting. I'm most looking forward to Porto vs. Maia for the Interim Flyweight title that Barb Honchak has told Invicta she didn't want to hold up for some reason, Modafferi/Bennett, and, of course, the return of the The Monster making her flyweight debut against Andrea Lee.  (possible ManMMA implications in the future  ...maybe.) I dig the card. Should be fun. Thoughts?  |
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Feb 24, 2016 2:28:40 GMT -5
andrea lee debut(she so sexy) i'll def be watching this one she'll prolly get a ko win like usual.. why phx do u have fight pass or dl the fights?
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Feb 24, 2016 2:30:02 GMT -5
also i heard ufc should be making a 125 lb division so i imagine it wont be long b4 u see lee in ufc i dont think theyll sign dalelio tho they tend to get sexy fighter lol not trolls
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Feb 24, 2016 3:04:37 GMT -5
andrea lee debut(she so sexy) i'll def be watching this one she'll prolly get a ko win like usual.. why phx do u have fight pass or dl the fights? This isn't Lee's debut... lol She fought at Invictas 10 & 14, losing to Modafferi and beat Ostovich, respectively.  She also doesn't KO anybody dude... she's more of a submission chick. Learn your fighters buddy. And, I'll be honest with you dude... the fight will either go the distance or, if Sarah gets her to the ground, it could be curtains for KGB. Nah, I don't have fight pass... I try and find a free stream online somewhere. lol I have paid for Invicta a few times before though. also i heard ufc should be making a 125 lb division so i imagine it wont be long b4 u see lee in ufc i dont think theyll sign dalelio tho they tend to get sexy fighter lol not trolls Well, never say never... I'd love to see Sarah in the UFC, but I'd be surprised if she did go after she told me herself that she probably won't go there after the way Zuffa treated her when they took over Strikeforce while she was still under contract for 2 or 3 more fights and they shifted a lot of focus away from the women. Money has a way of changing people's minds sometimes, so we'll see... but I'm not holding my breath on that we'll ever see her in a UFC octagon. She seems like a pretty headstrong chick that way. lol And of course they sign trolls... |
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Feb 24, 2016 3:10:56 GMT -5
lol illegal phx illegal........ shit rousey prettier than d'alelio is and ever will be and even if she beats lee ull see lee in ufc 1st also ufc fight pass is only like 8 bucks a month well worth it i'm watching ufc 16 right now..   |
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Feb 24, 2016 3:14:52 GMT -5
id also share my ufc fight pass but dont want ppl buying damned ppv on my cc since they only go back to about 4-6 months
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Feb 24, 2016 3:33:17 GMT -5
lol illegal phx illegal........ shit rousey prettier than d'alelio is and ever will be and even if she beats lee ull see lee in ufc 1st also ufc fight pass is only like 8 bucks a month well worth it i'm watching ufc 16 right now.. Again, they're fighters, not supermodels...  I don't give a shit who's prettier than who when it comes to their fighting, nor does being good looking make you a good fighter either. lol And I'm not arguing with you... if Uncle Dana sees something he likes out of Lee, I'm sure she'll end up there before D'Alelio. As I said, Sarah's said she had a bad experience with Zuffa and wants to deal with them as little as possible, if at all. Yah, I have the WWE Network... when I'm a little more flush, I'll probably get fight pass too eventually. |
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Feb 24, 2016 3:52:30 GMT -5
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Post by The Sandmen on Feb 24, 2016 7:37:28 GMT -5
Ever since the UFC picked Invicta's talent dry, I feel meh towards it. It now feels like a minor-league breeding ground rather than a completely legit, independent MMA organization it once was. Before, it was like the KHL. Now, it's like the OHL.
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Post by The Rocketmen on Feb 24, 2016 8:07:33 GMT -5
I feel like there's no talent on this card, and the talent that is there is talent that can't find a contract elsewhere.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Feb 24, 2016 12:35:35 GMT -5
Ever since the UFC picked Invicta's talent dry, I feel meh towards it. It now feels like a minor-league breeding ground rather than a completely legit, independent MMA organization it once was. Before, it was like the KHL. Now, it's like the OHL. Perhaps when it comes to the Bantamweights & the Straw weights, sure, although Grasso & Eggink aren't shitty. I do think you're missing the mark immensely in terms of the rest of the weight classes though man. Hamaskai, Porto, Maia, Bennett, Modafferi, Evinger, Tibercio, Souza, Aldana, technically Honchak's still there... not to mention Cyborg, Tweet, LaRosa, Gomes, and now D'Alelio's back, but moving down to flyweight. Sure, UFC took fighters from 2 weight classes, but not their entire roster. No matter what Uncle Dana tells you and tries to spoon feed you, Bantamweights & Straw weights are NOT the only weight classes that have good fighters. Not every fighters going to be on every card. I feel like there's no talent on this card, and the talent that is there is talent that can't find a contract elsewhere. You obviously don't follow too much WMMA then Rocketman and just eat what Uncle Dana spoon feeds you. lol Like I said above, it terms of BWs & SWs, it's a little lean except for Grasso on this card, I can agree there. But trying to say they can't find a contract elsewhere is a bit loaded when UFC or Bellator only offer 2 weight classes for folks to choose from. UFC offers BW & SW whereas Bellator offers Featherweight & Flyweight and Bellator's flyweight division licks donkey balls right now when they're only exceptional fighter at that weight class is Ovchynnikova. Bellator's Featherweights are a bit more interesting due to a couple switches from Invicta like Coenen & Budd, but once you get past them, Jenkins, Bucci & Nogueira are they're only big standouts. So, Invicta's still better in terms of talent quality fellas... don't kid yourselves. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Feb 24, 2016 13:20:53 GMT -5
Ever since the UFC picked Invicta's talent dry, I feel meh towards it. It now feels like a minor-league breeding ground rather than a completely legit, independent MMA organization it once was. Before, it was like the KHL. Now, it's like the OHL. Perhaps when it comes to the Bantamweights & the Straw weights, sure, although Grasso & Eggink aren't shitty. I do think you're missing the mark immensely in terms of the rest of the weight classes though man. Hamaskai, Porto, Maia, Bennett, Modafferi, Evinger, Tibercio, Souza, Aldana, technically Honchak's still there... not to mention Cyborg, Tweet, LaRosa, Gomes, and now D'Alelio's back, but moving down to flyweight. Sure, UFC took fighters from 2 weight classes, but not their entire roster. No matter what Uncle Dana tells you and tries to spoon feed you, Bantamweights & Straw weights are NOT the only weight classes that have good fighters. Not every fighters going to be on every card. That MMA Rising site you like shows pretty clearly how gutted INvicta is. Featherweights - Invicta has 2 of the top 5 - the rest are in Bellator Bantamweights - Invicta has 1 of the top 10 - the rest are in the UFC Flyweights - Invicta has 3 of the top 10. Strawweights - Invicta has 2 in the top 10 Atomweights - Invicta's strongest division - they have 6 of the top 10. I think saying the UFC did not take their entire roster is about on par with saying the NHL didn't take the entire KHL roster. Sure, the KHL has some guys....but you don't tune into the KHL to watch the best hockey players in the world. You tune in to watch the REST of the hockey players in the world. Invicta is now that. You can see the up-and-comers, or the people with no viable competition in larger organizations. I loved Invicta, but it is a shell of what it once was, and is basically a feeding ground for Uncle Dana to pluck dry now. |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Feb 24, 2016 14:55:56 GMT -5
Perhaps when it comes to the Bantamweights & the Straw weights, sure, although Grasso & Eggink aren't shitty. I do think you're missing the mark immensely in terms of the rest of the weight classes though man. Hamaskai, Porto, Maia, Bennett, Modafferi, Evinger, Tibercio, Souza, Aldana, technically Honchak's still there... not to mention Cyborg, Tweet, LaRosa, Gomes, and now D'Alelio's back, but moving down to flyweight. Sure, UFC took fighters from 2 weight classes, but not their entire roster. No matter what Uncle Dana tells you and tries to spoon feed you, Bantamweights & Straw weights are NOT the only weight classes that have good fighters. Not every fighters going to be on every card. That MMA Rising site you like shows pretty clearly how gutted INvicta is. Featherweights - Invicta has 2 of the top 5 - the rest are in Bellator Bantamweights - Invicta has 1 of the top 10 - the rest are in the UFC Flyweights - Invicta has 3 of the top 10. Strawweights - Invicta has 2 in the top 10 Atomweights - Invicta's strongest division - they have 6 of the top 10. I think saying the UFC did not take their entire roster is about on par with saying the NHL didn't take the entire KHL roster. Sure, the KHL has some guys....but you don't tune into the KHL to watch the best hockey players in the world. You tune in to watch the REST of the hockey players in the world. Invicta is now that. You can see the up-and-comers, or the people with no viable competition in larger organizations. I loved Invicta, but it is a shell of what it once was, and is basically a feeding ground for Uncle Dana to pluck dry now. That's not even a good analogy since we generally don't get KHL games televised over here at all. So of course we're not going to tune into KHL games. lol Plus you only use the top 5 for featherweights to try and make your fictitious point but top 10 for the rest? Invicta has 6 of the top 10 featherweights as well. Not to mention that those 3 in flyweight category are in the top 4 in the world, not smattered throughout the top 10 like you're attempting to suggest. Invicta still has the most top Featherweights & Atomweights anywhere in the world, plus those 3 of the top 4 flyweights... all despite being picked over for their Bantamweights & Strawweights by UFC. You can't make the argument that there are no viable people in the larger organizations either since only Invicta & Bellator are the two bigger organizations that offer featherweight, atomweight & flyweight classes. They've only got two places to go unless you want to stay regional, go to Pancrase over in Japan, or go to XFC, which also has good talent in the flyweight division, but aren't as big as Invicta or Bellator. You're really grasping at straws trying to claim anything different, but I understand why you're wanting to take that stance from a ManMMA standpoint in refusing to acknowledge Invicta, or Bellator for that matter, for the purpose our champions cap in our women's division. I get it... and that's fine, but you're seriously delusional thinking that it's only for "up-and-comers, or the people with 'no viable competition' in larger organizations" when there are no other larger organizations than Invicta & Bellator offering those weight classes outside of Bantamweight & Strawweight. Folks need to take their UFC blinders off and look at the bigger picture in cases like this when UFC doesn't offer a showcase or a platform for any other WMMA outside the extremely narrow scope of 2 weight classes. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Feb 24, 2016 15:13:44 GMT -5
What the fuck are you talking about? I have never once said the UFC was the only place for the best WMMA. I'm the last person on earth who thinks the UFC is the MMA be-all, end-all. According to YOUR site, the majority of the BWs and SWs that matter in the world are in the UFC. For Featherweights, Invicta has the #1, but no one for her to fight. If you think Cyborg has legit fights in Invicta, you are fooling yourself. So, yay, Invicta has atomweights  . If I want to see atomweight females, I know where to go. Other then that, the talent is spread across about 6 major organizations. Just like I said in the first place. Therefore, INVICTA IS NO LONGER THE PREMIERE PLACE TO GO FOR WMMA. It is A place to go for SOME WMMA. |
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Feb 24, 2016 15:36:26 GMT -5
there going to pick thier 125 lbs division and yes i was wrong about kgb lees debut its amber lynn orr thats just signed with imvicta
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(possible ManMMA implications in the future 
...maybe.)
She also doesn't KO anybody dude... she's more of a submission chick. Learn your fighters buddy. 
I don't give a shit who's prettier than who when it comes to their fighting, nor does being good looking make you a good fighter either. lol And I'm not arguing with you... if Uncle Dana sees something he likes out of Lee, I'm sure she'll end up there before D'Alelio. As I said, Sarah's said she had a bad experience with Zuffa and wants to deal with them as little as possible, if at all. 
