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Post by The Rocketmen on May 22, 2016 17:52:05 GMT -5
lol
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Post by xx - The Broad Street Bullies on May 22, 2016 18:05:10 GMT -5
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on May 22, 2016 19:04:26 GMT -5
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Post by xx - Former Bulldozers on May 22, 2016 19:42:06 GMT -5
Since I have no list from xx - Team GAP (despite speaking to him via text message, and telling him to come on the site) he will forfeit his Grand Prix spot. xx - Former Bulldozers is now in the Grand Prix. Congrats everyone on another great season. Yay, I've finally made it after like 5 seasons and only because somebody forfeited their spot but yay!!!!
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Post by The Sandmen on May 22, 2016 20:41:03 GMT -5
With a 0.1% difference between making it in the first place, it's not like anyone can say you didn't earn it.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on May 23, 2016 8:37:46 GMT -5
Since when do you care about fairness, unless it suits you to do so? ...oh, wait... it suits you now. My mistake... So...you're saying I SHOULD boot GAP? That's interesting....I guess I'll consider it since even you are on board with it. No, I didn't say that either... lol That's you misinterpreting my words to suit your own purposes again, as usual. The fact is that, regardless of the length of time in which GAP has been off-site, it's more than comparable to the neglect that Cannon's displayed to his entire team over seasons in only upgrading his women for so long. Atleast when GAP does his upgrades, he upgrades his team, not just one division of it, and that is reflected by the fact that GAP made the GP, if only in stats, and Cannon did not. I think that excluding GAP from the GP was the right call, not taking away his team... not unless you'll be removing Cannon as well.
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Post by The Sandmen on May 23, 2016 9:56:36 GMT -5
No one's talking about upgrades. That doesn't affect the smooth-functioning of the site. NOT submitting a GP list does. That is the primary reason his team is on thin, thin ice. If you are on once every 2 months and don't submit a GP list, how is keeping those fighters locked onto such a team fair?
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on May 23, 2016 11:03:55 GMT -5
No one's talking about upgrades. That doesn't affect the smooth-functioning of the site. NOT submitting a GP list does. That is the primary reason his team is on thin, thin ice. If you are on once every 2 months and don't submit a GP list, how is keeping those fighters locked onto such a team fair? No more or less fair, nor is it really that much different, that Cannon has allowed the rest of his team to rot for MULTIPLE seasons to upgrade his women and lock his male fighters in purgatory for that long. To me, that's virtually the equivalent of being absent for a long period of time like a month or two, except for the fact that in Cannon's case, no one but his women were getting upgraded for for literally years, not just a team being absent for a month or two. That's the correlation I make there. I honestly don't see much of a difference there really.
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Post by The Sandmen on May 23, 2016 11:08:39 GMT -5
He is still upgrading his fighters. He has also traded A LOT of his quality name fighters from the time you are talking about. When he was mostly ignoring his men, he had the depth of the division to be able to do that without really suffering the consequences, and even still traded away many elite fighters. He traded Matt Hughes and Georges St-Pierre among others. Spreading the talent when you are not upgrading them benefits everyone. What GAP is doing benefits no one.
And I don't know how you cannot see the difference. I am telling you the major difference. Regardless of what Cannon was doing, he submitted GP lists. The GP went forward as planned when Cannon did his thing. The GP has had to be modified because of GAP's lack of activity. That is the difference you don't see. I hope now you see it.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on May 23, 2016 11:24:58 GMT -5
He is still upgrading his fighters. He has also traded A LOT of his quality name fighters from the time you are talking about. When he was mostly ignoring his men, he had the depth of the division to be able to do that without really suffering the consequences, and even still traded away many elite fighters. He traded Matt Hughes and Georges St-Pierre among others. Spreading the talent when you are not upgrading them benefits everyone. What GAP is doing benefits no one. And I don't know how you cannot see the difference. I am telling you the major difference. Regardless of what Cannon was doing, he submitted GP lists. The GP went forward as planned when Cannon did his thing. The GP has had to be modified because of GAP's lack of activity. That is the difference you don't see. I hope now you see it. And? GAP's been upgrading his fighters too... He's only been over the 15 point limit once at one point all season long, whereas you, yourself, have been over it numerous times now, as has Cannon and a couple/few others. So, Cannon traded a couple fighters... big deal. That still doesn't change the fact there were 1 and 2 year spaces where he still hoarded his males, and still upgraded only his women. Trading two fighters doesn't redeem him for that in my estimation... it may for you, but it doesn't for me. That's still 1 and 2 (literal) years that he kept those practices up that hurt the league at that time, but he was allowed to continue on. If GAP's still upgrading his fighters, is still competitive, and he's still making the GP... We really have no reason doubt his methods other than you finding it annoying.
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Post by The Sandmen on May 23, 2016 11:29:14 GMT -5
You keep talking about this fighter upgrading. I don't care about that. I care about the Grand Prix. If I have no list from GAP because he is never on, nothing else matters. I don;t care about his upgrading. You kept bringing that up - I'm fine with his upgrading. I am not fine with his not submitting a GP list and not even coming on after letting him know I needed him to pop on.
Short version: GAP IS ABOUT TO LOSE HIS TEAM BECAUSE HE DID NOT GIVE ME A GP LIST AND IS NEVER ON ANYMORE.
Hope that's easier for you to understand.
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on May 23, 2016 11:33:12 GMT -5
He is still upgrading his fighters. He has also traded A LOT of his quality name fighters from the time you are talking about. When he was mostly ignoring his men, he had the depth of the division to be able to do that without really suffering the consequences, and even still traded away many elite fighters. He traded Matt Hughes and Georges St-Pierre among others. Spreading the talent when you are not upgrading them benefits everyone. What GAP is doing benefits no one. And I don't know how you cannot see the difference. I am telling you the major difference. Regardless of what Cannon was doing, he submitted GP lists. The GP went forward as planned when Cannon did his thing. The GP has had to be modified because of GAP's lack of activity. That is the difference you don't see. I hope now you see it. And? GAP's been upgrading his fighters too... He's only been over the 15 point limit once at one point all season long, whereas you, yourself, have been over it numerous times now, as has Cannon and a couple/few others. So, Cannon traded a couple fighters... big deal. That still doesn't change the fact there were 1 and 2 year spaces where he still hoarded his males, and still upgraded only his women. Trading two fighters doesn't redeem him for that in my estimation... it may for you, but it doesn't for me. That's still 1 and 2 (literal) years that he kept those practices up that hurt the league at that time, but he was allowed to continue on. If GAP's still upgrading his fighters, is still competitive, and he's still making the GP... We really have no reason doubt his methods other than you finding it annoying. stfu noob i traded dan hendo too, even byron wamts gaps fighters freed up.. i was also involved in manmma biggest trade u refused to take part in well gap was inactive 4 that too
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on May 23, 2016 11:49:51 GMT -5
You keep talking about this fighter upgrading. I don't care about that. I care about the Grand Prix. If I have no list from GAP because he is never on, nothing else matters. I don;t care about his upgrading. You kept bringing that up - I'm fine with his upgrading. I am not fine with his not submitting a GP list and not even coming on after letting him know I needed him to pop on. Short version: GAP IS ABOUT TO LOSE HIS TEAM BECAUSE HE DID NOT GIVE ME A GP LIST AND IS NEVER ON ANYMORE. Hope that's easier for you to understand. Is that what you told him in the convo you had with him recently about this? I don't think so, or he would've told me. So, he didn't submit a GP list... the penalty for that is that you're not in the GP if you don't submit one. That penalty is being served by him not being in the GP. Simple... done. And? GAP's been upgrading his fighters too... He's only been over the 15 point limit once at one point all season long, whereas you, yourself, have been over it numerous times now, as has Cannon and a couple/few others. So, Cannon traded a couple fighters... big deal. That still doesn't change the fact there were 1 and 2 year spaces where he still hoarded his males, and still upgraded only his women. Trading two fighters doesn't redeem him for that in my estimation... it may for you, but it doesn't for me. That's still 1 and 2 (literal) years that he kept those practices up that hurt the league at that time, but he was allowed to continue on. If GAP's still upgrading his fighters, is still competitive, and he's still making the GP... We really have no reason doubt his methods other than you finding it annoying. stfu noob i traded dan hendo too, even byron wamts gaps fighters freed up.. i was also involved in manmma biggest trade u refused to take part in LMAO Oooo... You traded Hendo too. Whoopti-shit Normand I've traded Franklin, Fitch (2x), Sherk (2x)... Does that suddenly absolve me from all my transgressions now too? I only refused to be a part of that huge trade because there was no benefit in me being a part of it; what I was being asked to give up wasn't worth what I would've received in return, and clearly I made the right decision there.
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on May 23, 2016 13:12:06 GMT -5
stfu noob i traded dan hendo too, even byron wamts gaps fighters freed up.. i was also involved in manmma biggest trade u refused to take part in LMAO Oooo... You traded Hendo too. Whoopti-shit Normand I've traded Franklin, Fitch (2x), Sherk (2x)... Does that suddenly absolve me from all my transgressions now too? I only refused to be a part of that huge trade because there was no benefit in me being a part of it; what I was being asked to give up wasn't worth what I would've received in return, and clearly I made the right decision there. [/quote] so u onnly make trades you benefit from? intersesting and gap benefit by not being around??
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on May 23, 2016 14:40:20 GMT -5
so u onnly make trades you benefit from? intersesting and gap benefit by not being around?? I make trades that benefit both sides, if I'm wanting to make a deal or trade somebody in particular or I like the return I'm getting. No different that most folks... But to insinuate that I only make deals that I benefit from is a joke, considering what I actually got for Franklin. lol And does GAP benefit? He lost out on his GP spot because he didn't submit his list. That's more than fair. The only person that benefits here is Dozers who got the right to slot in, in GAP's place. That's it.
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