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Post by The Sandmen on Jun 8, 2017 7:38:48 GMT -5
June 8, 2017 Quicken Loans Arena (Cleveland, Ohio)Heavyweight Championship Shogun Rua (60-43) vs. Mirko Cro Cop (64-41)Winner is Mirko Cro Cop by KO (High kick) at 4:07 Round 1 Bantamweight Championship Gina Carano (90-17) vs. Sarah Kaufman (67-29)Winner is Sarah Kaufman by KO (Punch) at 3:00 Round 1 Middleweight #1 Contender Bout Georges St-Pierre (87-39-1) vs. Cung Le (69-36-1)Winner is Cung Le by KO (High kick) at 4:15 Round 2 Flyweight #1 Contender Bout Paige VanZant (23-19) vs. Rose Namajunas (12-10-1)Winner is Paige VanZant by Submission (Armbar) at 2:12 Round 2 Lightweight Tournament Semi-Finals Eddie Alvarez (16-19) vs. Diego Sanchez (50-36)Winner is Eddie Alvarez by Submission (armbar) at 2:04 Round 2 Roger Huerta (33-25) vs. Melvin Guillard (51-38)
Winner is Melvin Guillard by KO (High kick) at 3:12 Round 1 Lightweight Bout Cody Garbrandt (2-0) vs. Joachim Hansen (55-25)Winner is Cody Garbrandt by KO (Punches) at 3:27 Round 2 Flyweight Bout Hisae Watanabe (13-16) vs. Tecia Torres (9-9)Winner is Hisae Watanabe by KO (High kick) at 3:37 Round 2 Heavyweight Bout Bobby Lashley (39-33) vs. Rashad Evans (39-41)Winner is Bobby Lashley by TKO (GnP) at 3:17 Round 2 Heavyweight Bout Tito Ortiz (37-42) vs. Stefan Struve (15-16)Winner is Tito Ortiz by TKO (Knees) at 2:13 Round 1 Heavyweight Bout Maurice Smith (32-31) vs. Fabricio Werdum (13-15)Winner is Fabricio Werdum by Submission (Triangle to Armbar) at 1:56 Round 2 Catchweight Bout Tonya Evinger (10-9) vs. Tara LaRosa (36-36-1)Winner is Tara LaRosa by Submission (Armbar) at 3:44 Round 1 Bantamweight Bout Amanda Buckner (8-7) vs. Julie Kedzie (20-38)Winner is Julie Kedzie by KO (Punch) at 0:40 Round 2 Bantamweight Bout Valerie Letourneau (7-5) vs. Charmaine Tweet (2-2)Winner is Valérie Létourneau by KO (Punch) at 0:41 Round 3 Bantamweight Bout Fallon Fox (12-21) vs. Ashlee Evans-Smith (2-2)Winner is Ashlee Evans-Smith by TKO (Elbow) at 3:26 Round 3 Flyweight Bout Kyra Gracie (21-29) vs. Andrea Lee (5-5)Winner is Kyra Gracie by Submission (armbar) at 2:01 Round 3 Flyweight Bout Maryna Moroz (5-9-1) vs. Marianna Kheyfets (23-30-1)Winner is Marianna Kheyfets by Split decision Lightweight Bout Edson Barboza (11-15) vs. Nate Diaz (16-25)Winner is Nate Diaz by Submission (Kneebar) at 0:55 Round 2 Middleweight Bout Evan Tanner (16-28) vs. Gegard Mousasi (16-22)Winner is Gegard Mousasi by KO (High kick) at 1:14 Round 1 BonusesFight of the Night: Garbrandt vs. Hansen KO of the Night: Tito Ortiz Submission of the Night: Nate Diaz StatisticsAttendance: 20,652 (100%) Buy Rate: 4,245,235
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Post by The Sandmen on Jun 8, 2017 7:38:57 GMT -5
Rattlescopes 13 Queen's Poison 9 ("this guy" is a woman. Do some actual research about gender-reassignment surgery, and come back less ignorant) Camp Tincan 10 (I did not give you credit for the fight you predicted both fighters to win. That is cheating ) Phoenix Fail Challenge (Or Free Mix Fap Club) 11 The Rocketeer 9 Rattlescoops (again) 1/1 (More people did, in fact, predict. Good job!) The Feeble Bucks 11 Byron Butterfly 11 Sanemen 15 +1 Sandmen (prediction) +1 Ferocity (BW title) +1 Sandmen (HW title)
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Post by xx - The King's Poison on Jun 8, 2017 14:48:39 GMT -5
Hey, if you're born with a dick, I'm going to call you a man. If you cut off a monkey's tail, that doesn't make them a gorilla.
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Post by The Sandmen on Jun 8, 2017 23:31:21 GMT -5
Hey, if you're born with a dick, I'm going to call you a man. If you cut off a monkey's tail, that doesn't make them a gorilla. Your sentiments are based on discriminatory pre-concieved notions, rather than facts and science. 1) Sex and gender are different things, and they are not interchangable. Your sex based on your biological assignment, your gender is your sexual self-identity. 2) Sex is scientifically proven to be alterable (we will discuss this in a second). Gender is not (see the success rate of gender-conversion therapies, or google the case of David Reimer). 3) Pretty much all MMA and boxing sanctioning bodies allow post-op transgender individuals to compete as their self-ascribed gender. Not to mention the IOC (International Olympic Committee). These organizations have done extensive research into the matter, and have more facts at their disposal than "if you born with a dick bro, you a dude cuz I says so". 4) Actual science. Let's dig in. First, let's look at your attempted point with monkey's and gorillas. You are not altering someone's chemical makeup by cutting off a tail. Or a penis, for that matter. But when you undergo gender reassignment surgery, you alter the take a cocktail of drugs to alter your biological makeup. You shift the chemicals in your system. Men are predominantly defined by testosterone, and women by estrogen. Testosterone is produced by testicles. Testosterone is also produced in the ovaries. Now, since Fallon Fox (and all post-op transgender people for that matter) have neither testicles nor ovaries, they actually have LESS testosterone in their system than a biological female. So, on the testostrone front, (you know, the thing that they test for to see if you are taking performance-enhancing drugs), she is at a considerable DISADVANTAGE. 5) I doubt you are into MMA enough to know about the bone-density debate, but the most prevelant criticism of male-to-female transgender women fighting is this concept of bone density. Men have higher bone density than women. So critics (transphobes and the like) say that gives them an advantage over women and is reason enough to ban them from the sport. What they fail to mention is there is also a difference in bone density between races as well. So, to ban a transgender fighter from fighting based on bone density would also ban black people (higher bone density) from fighting white people (lighter bone density). The analysis of bone density of transgender women to black women is basically indistinguishable. A white women fighting a black women is just as disadvantaged, biologically, as a white women fighting Fallon Fox. 6) Points 4 and 5 are completely moot when you take skill, training, and age into account. Fallon Fox, in real life, is a below-average fighter. She is old, and she is not fit to take on elite MMA fighters. If all of this bullshit about advantages, and "she's a dude" were true, she would just kinda default her way into being a champion everywhere. But she is not. She is an absolutely average female MMA fighter. So, at this point you kinda have 2 options. You can accept that the athletic-medical community, internationally, does not agree with your assessment, and you can re=evaluate your stance (which is what smart people do - carry an open mind when new facts and information becomes available). Or you can dismiss it all, ignore science (like those people who will tell you, in all seriousness, the Earth is flat), and accept the fact that your stance is based on personal bias, and not any sort of concensus or opinion from actual authorities on the subject. I hope you have found this mini-essay informative. I remember being a young lad myself and holding many of the same beliefs as you. But as we grow up, we can choose to educate ourselves and re-evaluate our opinions based on facts and science. Since I like you, and care about the adult you will eventually grow into, I hope you will keep an open mind on things now and in the future, and leave room for additional research and scientific discovery. Actual facts matter, and that has probably never been more devastatingly true than now. Especially for you, my American friends. References: www.outsports.com/2013/6/26/4467346/trans-athletes-fallon-fox-fairnesswww.vice.com/en_ca/article/fallon-fox-is-a-woman-get-over-it-925www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/3/8/4075434/leading-sex-reassignment-physicians-weigh-in-on-fallon-foxwww.bloodyelbow.com/2014/11/11/7192703/fallon-fox-responds-to-joe-rogan-and-ronda-rouseys-claims-of-unfairwww.theverge.com/2013/3/21/4131174/fallon-fox-mma-science-transgender-fighting-athletesjezebel.com/fuck-moving-on-talking-to-fallon-fox-about-fair-fights-1720469599transadvocate.com/reality-check-fallon-fox-and-the-transgender-advantage_n_9000.htm
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Post by xx - Former Bulldozers on Jun 9, 2017 0:24:13 GMT -5
The people that created The Matrix are transgender as well.
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