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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Mar 13, 2018 12:08:34 GMT -5
I could see potentially putting a cap on trades and making it so that there is a maximum; however, I believe that there should be no cap when it comes to how people save their points. agreed. always good to come to the table with potential solutions. now to determine if its ever been a problem in the first place. there is a difference between “i dont like this” versus “this broke the site and here is evidence” the latter has yet to be presented People hoarding points, whether on purpose or because of lack of activity or receiving a shit ton of points through donations as a new team, has broken the site a bit. What are you smoking Mike? We get Cody Garbrandt going on a 7-0 tear in his rookie season AND winning the title? All because he got challenged by a "ranked" fighter, yet I have Megan Anderson go 3-0 last season, and not even get a tournament tournament berth or even ranked, for example. She gets tossed into another under card fight but Garbrandt got special treatment the season before because Snakes got a shit ton of point for joining the site and donations, etc? Sorry... still seems like a double standard here. Anthony Johnson is another... comes in, gets a few upgrades, suddenly starts beasting over everyone as a newb, then gets pumped full to cap cuz Sandman hoarded his points. Same with JJ actually... How these fighters are created does have bearing on how they'll perform... And who creates the fighters? Sorry, but even if I was creating the fighters there would be a personal bias of some sort in that "well, I think this guys is better than this guy" or "This guy beat this guy IRL, so I'll give him a bit of nudge on this stat". Plus we're dealing with an admin that is trying to cut fighters off the site because he "has to have the 'best of the best' to keep him interested." Yet we have new teams that have come in and we don't have enough fighters to go around so veteran teams like Ducks & Byron feel compelled to liquidate so we can facilitate new teams. How is that right? But then these new teams are sitting there with 25-30pts, with fresh established fighters already, and a number of us are sitting here going "Umm.... What?", cuz we upgrade our fighters when we have points. Gets to the point where it's "Why am I doing all this work and put time into upgrading when it's being made so that I have no chance moving forward?" Also, don't sit there and commend folks for suggestions or solutions Mike... That's just a fucking joke when you're one of the ones that ignores valid points, twists people's words into something they weren't intended to be, and personally attack people for said suggestions or solutions that you don't agree with, as GAP alluded to. Our "fearless leader" is exactly the same way, which is a problem, and it's no wonder we have anarchy a lot of the time around here. It's bullshit.
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Post by The Rocketmen on Mar 13, 2018 12:16:06 GMT -5
agreed. always good to come to the table with potential solutions. now to determine if its ever been a problem in the first place. there is a difference between “i dont like this” versus “this broke the site and here is evidence” the latter has yet to be presented People hoarding points, whether on purpose or because of lack of activity or receiving a shit ton of points through donations as a new team, has broken the site a bit. What are you smoking Mike? We get Cody Garbrandt going on a 7-0 tear in his rookie season AND winning the title? All because he got challenged by a "ranked" fighter, yet I have Megan Anderson go 3-0 last season, and not even get a tournament tournament berth or even ranked, for example. She gets tossed into another under card fight but Garbrandt got special treatment the season before because Snakes got a shit ton of point for joining the site and donations, etc? Sorry... still seems like a double standard here. Anthony Johnson is another... comes in, gets a few upgrades, suddenly starts beasting over everyone as a newb, then gets pumped full to cap cuz Sandman hoarded his points. Same with JJ actually... How these fighters are created does have bearing on how they'll perform... And who creates the fighters? Sorry, but even if I was creating the fighters there would be a personal bias of some sort in that "well, I think this guys is better than this guy" or "This guy beat this guy IRL, so I'll give him a bit of nudge on this stat". Plus we're dealing with an admin that is trying to cut fighters off the site because he "has to have the 'best of the best' to keep him interested." Yet we have new teams that have come in and we don't have enough fighters to go around so veteran teams like Ducks & Byron feel compelled to liquidate so we can facilitate new teams. How is that right? But then these new teams are sitting there with 25-30pts, with fresh established fighters already, and a number of us are sitting here going "Umm.... What?", cuz we upgrade our fighters when we have points. Gets to the point where it's "Why am I doing all this work and put time into upgrading when it's being made so that I have no chance moving forward?" Also, don't sit there and commend folks for suggestions or solutions Mike... That's just a fucking joke when you're one of the ones that ignores valid points, twists people's words into something they weren't intended to be, and personally attack people for said suggestions or solutions that you don't agree with, as GAP alluded to. Our "fearless leader" is exactly the same way, which is a problem, and it's no wonder we have anarchy a lot of the time around here. It's bullshit. there it is lol
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Mar 13, 2018 12:22:02 GMT -5
agreed. always good to come to the table with potential solutions. now to determine if its ever been a problem in the first place. there is a difference between “i dont like this” versus “this broke the site and here is evidence” the latter has yet to be presented People hoarding points, whether on purpose or because of lack of activity or receiving a shit ton of points through donations as a new team, has broken the site a bit. What are you smoking Mike? We get Cody Garbrandt going on a 7-0 tear in his rookie season AND winning the title? All because he got challenged by a "ranked" fighter, yet I have Megan Anderson go 3-0 last season, and not even get a tournament tournament berth or even ranked, for example. She gets tossed into another under card fight but Garbrandt got special treatment the season before because Snakes got a shit ton of point for joining the site and donations, etc? Sorry... still seems like a double standard here. Anthony Johnson is another... comes in, gets a few upgrades, suddenly starts beasting over everyone as a newb, then gets pumped full to cap cuz Sandman hoarded his points. Same with JJ actually... How these fighters are created does have bearing on how they'll perform... And who creates the fighters? Sorry, but even if I was creating the fighters there would be a personal bias of some sort in that "well, I think this guys is better than this guy" or "This guy beat this guy IRL, so I'll give him a bit of nudge on this stat". Plus we're dealing with an admin that is trying to cut fighters off the site because he "has to have the 'best of the best' to keep him interested." Yet we have new teams that have come in and we don't have enough fighters to go around so veteran teams like Ducks & Byron feel compelled to liquidate so we can facilitate new teams. How is that right? But then these new teams are sitting there with 25-30pts, with fresh established fighters already, and a number of us are sitting here going "Umm.... What?", cuz we upgrade our fighters when we have points. Gets to the point where it's "Why am I doing all this work and put time into upgrading when it's being made so that I have no chance moving forward?" Also, don't sit there and commend folks for suggestions or solutions Mike... That's just a fucking joke when you're one of the ones that ignores valid points, twists people's words into something they weren't intended to be, and personally attack people for said suggestions or solutions that you don't agree with, as GAP alluded to. Our "fearless leader" is exactly the same way, which is a problem, and it's no wonder we have anarchy a lot of the time around here. It's bullshit. I got Garbrandt like two seasons after I arrived, so that's false about me getting points through joining and donations. Anthony Johnson wasn't capped, because I capped him when he came to my team. Also, Justin doesn't use bias to create the fighters. Their wiki page says the style they fight in, so they get a little buff in that, then he looks at how those fighters typically finish their fights. A little buff in that, and poof. Very little bias goes into creating fighters. It just seems like you guys aren't winning, so you claim there's something wrong with the system. I first joined, had an awful team, then got a little bit of advice on how to upgrade, and made fighters better. And my fighters have been on the rise ever since. Want a good team? Upgrade well. Not pleased with how your fighters are fighting? Trade them for better fighters. Fedor, Rampage, Rashad are big name value fighters that could land you really good on-site fighters, but you hang on to them and constantly tweak them, and get nowhere.
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Post by The Rocketmen on Mar 13, 2018 12:22:41 GMT -5
also enjoyed the “we have anarchy here” that part is my second favorite
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Post by The Rocketmen on Mar 13, 2018 12:24:44 GMT -5
People hoarding points, whether on purpose or because of lack of activity or receiving a shit ton of points through donations as a new team, has broken the site a bit. What are you smoking Mike? We get Cody Garbrandt going on a 7-0 tear in his rookie season AND winning the title? All because he got challenged by a "ranked" fighter, yet I have Megan Anderson go 3-0 last season, and not even get a tournament tournament berth or even ranked, for example. She gets tossed into another under card fight but Garbrandt got special treatment the season before because Snakes got a shit ton of point for joining the site and donations, etc? Sorry... still seems like a double standard here. Anthony Johnson is another... comes in, gets a few upgrades, suddenly starts beasting over everyone as a newb, then gets pumped full to cap cuz Sandman hoarded his points. Same with JJ actually... How these fighters are created does have bearing on how they'll perform... And who creates the fighters? Sorry, but even if I was creating the fighters there would be a personal bias of some sort in that "well, I think this guys is better than this guy" or "This guy beat this guy IRL, so I'll give him a bit of nudge on this stat". Plus we're dealing with an admin that is trying to cut fighters off the site because he "has to have the 'best of the best' to keep him interested." Yet we have new teams that have come in and we don't have enough fighters to go around so veteran teams like Ducks & Byron feel compelled to liquidate so we can facilitate new teams. How is that right? But then these new teams are sitting there with 25-30pts, with fresh established fighters already, and a number of us are sitting here going "Umm.... What?", cuz we upgrade our fighters when we have points. Gets to the point where it's "Why am I doing all this work and put time into upgrading when it's being made so that I have no chance moving forward?" Also, don't sit there and commend folks for suggestions or solutions Mike... That's just a fucking joke when you're one of the ones that ignores valid points, twists people's words into something they weren't intended to be, and personally attack people for said suggestions or solutions that you don't agree with, as GAP alluded to. Our "fearless leader" is exactly the same way, which is a problem, and it's no wonder we have anarchy a lot of the time around here. It's bullshit. I got Garbrandt like two seasons after I arrived, so that's false about me getting points through joining and donations. Anthony Johnson wasn't capped, because I capped him when he came to my team. Also, Justin doesn't use bias to create the fighters. Their wiki page says the style they fight in, so they get a little buff in that, then he looks at how those fighters typically finish their fights. A little buff in that, and poof. Very little bias goes into creating fighters. It just seems like you guys aren't winning, so you claim there's something wrong with the system. I first joined, had an awful team, then got a little bit of advice on how to upgrade, and made fighters better. And my fighters have been on the rise ever since. Want a good team? Upgrade well. Not pleased with how your fighters are fighting? Trade them for better fighters. Fedor, Rampage, Rashad are big name value fighters that could land you really good on-site fighters, but you hang on to them and constantly tweak them, and get nowhere. upgrade better? ppft! get out of here with your dark magic talk devil dude
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Mar 13, 2018 13:19:14 GMT -5
People hoarding points, whether on purpose or because of lack of activity or receiving a shit ton of points through donations as a new team, has broken the site a bit. What are you smoking Mike? We get Cody Garbrandt going on a 7-0 tear in his rookie season AND winning the title? All because he got challenged by a "ranked" fighter, yet I have Megan Anderson go 3-0 last season, and not even get a tournament tournament berth or even ranked, for example. She gets tossed into another under card fight but Garbrandt got special treatment the season before because Snakes got a shit ton of point for joining the site and donations, etc? Sorry... still seems like a double standard here. Anthony Johnson is another... comes in, gets a few upgrades, suddenly starts beasting over everyone as a newb, then gets pumped full to cap cuz Sandman hoarded his points. Same with JJ actually... How these fighters are created does have bearing on how they'll perform... And who creates the fighters? Sorry, but even if I was creating the fighters there would be a personal bias of some sort in that "well, I think this guys is better than this guy" or "This guy beat this guy IRL, so I'll give him a bit of nudge on this stat". Plus we're dealing with an admin that is trying to cut fighters off the site because he "has to have the 'best of the best' to keep him interested." Yet we have new teams that have come in and we don't have enough fighters to go around so veteran teams like Ducks & Byron feel compelled to liquidate so we can facilitate new teams. How is that right? But then these new teams are sitting there with 25-30pts, with fresh established fighters already, and a number of us are sitting here going "Umm.... What?", cuz we upgrade our fighters when we have points. Gets to the point where it's "Why am I doing all this work and put time into upgrading when it's being made so that I have no chance moving forward?" Also, don't sit there and commend folks for suggestions or solutions Mike... That's just a fucking joke when you're one of the ones that ignores valid points, twists people's words into something they weren't intended to be, and personally attack people for said suggestions or solutions that you don't agree with, as GAP alluded to. Our "fearless leader" is exactly the same way, which is a problem, and it's no wonder we have anarchy a lot of the time around here. It's bullshit. there it is lol Yep... and there it is... more rhetoric and ridicule is one sentence by you. "TLDR" right? And you wonder why I have zero respect for you? Get a clue.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Mar 13, 2018 13:36:40 GMT -5
People hoarding points, whether on purpose or because of lack of activity or receiving a shit ton of points through donations as a new team, has broken the site a bit. What are you smoking Mike? We get Cody Garbrandt going on a 7-0 tear in his rookie season AND winning the title? All because he got challenged by a "ranked" fighter, yet I have Megan Anderson go 3-0 last season, and not even get a tournament tournament berth or even ranked, for example. She gets tossed into another under card fight but Garbrandt got special treatment the season before because Snakes got a shit ton of point for joining the site and donations, etc? Sorry... still seems like a double standard here. Anthony Johnson is another... comes in, gets a few upgrades, suddenly starts beasting over everyone as a newb, then gets pumped full to cap cuz Sandman hoarded his points. Same with JJ actually... How these fighters are created does have bearing on how they'll perform... And who creates the fighters? Sorry, but even if I was creating the fighters there would be a personal bias of some sort in that "well, I think this guys is better than this guy" or "This guy beat this guy IRL, so I'll give him a bit of nudge on this stat". Plus we're dealing with an admin that is trying to cut fighters off the site because he "has to have the 'best of the best' to keep him interested." Yet we have new teams that have come in and we don't have enough fighters to go around so veteran teams like Ducks & Byron feel compelled to liquidate so we can facilitate new teams. How is that right? But then these new teams are sitting there with 25-30pts, with fresh established fighters already, and a number of us are sitting here going "Umm.... What?", cuz we upgrade our fighters when we have points. Gets to the point where it's "Why am I doing all this work and put time into upgrading when it's being made so that I have no chance moving forward?" Also, don't sit there and commend folks for suggestions or solutions Mike... That's just a fucking joke when you're one of the ones that ignores valid points, twists people's words into something they weren't intended to be, and personally attack people for said suggestions or solutions that you don't agree with, as GAP alluded to. Our "fearless leader" is exactly the same way, which is a problem, and it's no wonder we have anarchy a lot of the time around here. It's bullshit. I got Garbrandt like two seasons after I arrived, so that's false about me getting points through joining and donations. Anthony Johnson wasn't capped, because I capped him when he came to my team. Also, Justin doesn't use bias to create the fighters. Their wiki page says the style they fight in, so they get a little buff in that, then he looks at how those fighters typically finish their fights. A little buff in that, and poof. Very little bias goes into creating fighters. It just seems like you guys aren't winning, so you claim there's something wrong with the system. I first joined, had an awful team, then got a little bit of advice on how to upgrade, and made fighters better. And my fighters have been on the rise ever since. Want a good team? Upgrade well. Not pleased with how your fighters are fighting? Trade them for better fighters. Fedor, Rampage, Rashad are big name value fighters that could land you really good on-site fighters, but you hang on to them and constantly tweak them, and get nowhere. None of what you said there refutes anything I said, at all... Doesn't matter when you got Garbrandt... fact is that he got special treatment cuz of that one challenge and the fact that you had a surplus of points. Everyone's been so fucking focused on people's roster sizes that suddenly we have guys now sitting there with 30-70+ points... when there was supposed to be a cap on that to... Oh, but we'll ignore that cuz most of those teams have fighters Justin wants here... Puh-lease.
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Post by The Rocketmen on Mar 13, 2018 13:41:14 GMT -5
I got Garbrandt like two seasons after I arrived, so that's false about me getting points through joining and donations. Anthony Johnson wasn't capped, because I capped him when he came to my team. Also, Justin doesn't use bias to create the fighters. Their wiki page says the style they fight in, so they get a little buff in that, then he looks at how those fighters typically finish their fights. A little buff in that, and poof. Very little bias goes into creating fighters. It just seems like you guys aren't winning, so you claim there's something wrong with the system. I first joined, had an awful team, then got a little bit of advice on how to upgrade, and made fighters better. And my fighters have been on the rise ever since. Want a good team? Upgrade well. Not pleased with how your fighters are fighting? Trade them for better fighters. Fedor, Rampage, Rashad are big name value fighters that could land you really good on-site fighters, but you hang on to them and constantly tweak them, and get nowhere. None of what you said there refutes anything I said, at all... Doesn't matter when you got Garbrandt... fact is that he got special treatment cuz of that one challenge and the fact that you had a surplus of points. Everyone's been so fucking focused on people's roster sizes that suddenly we have guys now sitting there with 30-70+ points... when there was supposed to be a cap on that to... Oh, but we'll ignore that cuz most of those teams have fighters Justin wants here... Puh-lease. just on a roll today so either ur referring to him getting upgraded well by rattlesnakes - which is a compliment or u should revisit that time justin posted this biiiiig thread about accusations because that seens to be a thing that the people it was targetted at just completely ignored
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Mar 13, 2018 13:55:53 GMT -5
I got Garbrandt like two seasons after I arrived, so that's false about me getting points through joining and donations. Anthony Johnson wasn't capped, because I capped him when he came to my team. Also, Justin doesn't use bias to create the fighters. Their wiki page says the style they fight in, so they get a little buff in that, then he looks at how those fighters typically finish their fights. A little buff in that, and poof. Very little bias goes into creating fighters. It just seems like you guys aren't winning, so you claim there's something wrong with the system. I first joined, had an awful team, then got a little bit of advice on how to upgrade, and made fighters better. And my fighters have been on the rise ever since. Want a good team? Upgrade well. Not pleased with how your fighters are fighting? Trade them for better fighters. Fedor, Rampage, Rashad are big name value fighters that could land you really good on-site fighters, but you hang on to them and constantly tweak them, and get nowhere. None of what you said there refutes anything I said, at all... Doesn't matter when you got Garbrandt... fact is that he got special treatment cuz of that one challenge and the fact that you had a surplus of points. Everyone's been so fucking focused on people's roster sizes that suddenly we have guys now sitting there with 30-70+ points... when there was supposed to be a cap on that to... Oh, but we'll ignore that cuz most of those teams have fighters Justin wants here... Puh-lease. The points I got for that upgrade were from a trade. And I just upgraded him whenever I got points. There was no saving a surplus.
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Mar 13, 2018 19:57:48 GMT -5
im pretty surei t was enforced i was penialized by the phoenix fight club for not spending point and the whole rule was about me in the 1st place so i agree with gap on this one
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Post by The Rocketmen on Mar 13, 2018 20:03:38 GMT -5
im pretty surei t was enforced i was penialized by the phoenix fight club for not spending point and the whole rule was about me in the 1st place so i agree with gap on this one that was at least five years ago. get over it.
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Post by The Sandmen on Mar 13, 2018 20:22:51 GMT -5
FACT TIME. Buckle up, because this is where Kruze gets annoyed and tunes out. What are you smoking Mike? We get Cody Garbrandt going on a 7-0 tear in his rookie season AND winning the title? All because he got challenged by a "ranked" fighter, yet I have Megan Anderson go 3-0 last season, and not even get a tournament tournament berth or even ranked, for example. 1) Megan Anderson. She was not put in tournaments becuase I did not feel she was able to hold her own against that level of competition. She did NOT go 3-0 on the season, she went 3-1 and LOST to Germaine de Randamie. LOSING to Germaine proved that I was correct, and Anderson was not ready for tournament fights with Murphy, Cyborg, etc. 2) Cody. Cody was challenged by and beat a ranked fighter. If Megan wanted to fight ranked people, you could and should have said something. You did not, and the season played out correctly. Megan was not ready for tournament fights, and she lost to de Ranadmie. Further, I did not want you bitching at me because I gave Megan a fight she would certainly lose (i.e. tournament fight), especially since you were on the edge of not being in the GP anyways. She gets tossed into another under card fight but Which she lost. Sorry... still seems like a double standard here. Nope. If Megan beat a ranked person, Megan would have been in a tournament. Same standard across the board Anthony Johnson is another... comes in, gets a few upgrades, suddenly starts beasting over everyone as a newb, then gets pumped full to cap cuz Sandman hoarded his points. This is factually incorrect. Johnson received 10 points. Then 4. Then 3. Then 3. He was upgraded exactly the way GAP is suggesting people should upgrade. #FactsAreYourFriend How these fighters are created does have bearing on how they'll perform... And who creates the fighters? Don't care what else you think you said here, this is your last hard-warning on this crap. If I read another thing like this, you and ManMMA are parting ways forever. Legit. No second chances or PMing my friends will change that. if I was creating the fighters there would be a personal bias of some sort No shit. That is why you have no power on this site, and why half of your suggestions are dismissed immediately. You only look out for you, not for the good of the site. Thanks for admitting that though. Not that anyone here needed you to. But thanks anyway. Plus we're dealing with an admin that is trying to cut fighters off the site because he "has to have the 'best of the best' to keep him interested." Yet we have new teams that have come in and we don't have enough fighters to go around so veteran teams like Ducks & Byron feel compelled to liquidate so we can facilitate new teams. How is that right? But then these new teams are sitting there with 25-30pts, with fresh established fighters already, and a number of us are sitting here going "Umm.... What?", cuz we upgrade our fighters when we have points. The LEAGUE would rather do what it is doing, rather than an expansion draft. If you want expansion drafts instead of donations, suggest that. Nothing you said here means anything though, as what Ducks and Byron CHOSE to do on thier own had nothing to do with anything else on this site. If you want to invoke their names and motives, talk to them. You speaking for them, based on no information is just baseless rhetoric, and more of your "collecting allies when you have a weak point" strategy. $100 says neither one agrees with you here and they are happy with what they have done. Unlike you, I have talked extensively with them both. "Why am I doing all this work and put time into upgrading Answer: so you can have a bitch-storm like this post once every couple months. That appears to be the only reason you do anything around here, since you are now silent unless you can fight. Then you post endless paragraphs of nonsense, with no facts to back that shit up. when it's being made so that I have no chance moving forward?" It's not. Upgrade batter. You have chances, you just are not upgrading well. If you refute this by citing Tim Sylvia, you prove my point. Checkmate. Also, don't sit there and commend folks for suggestions or solutions Mike... Yeah, The Rocketmen. No positivity here. This is a Kruze-Rampage zone! That's just a fucking joke when you're one of the ones that ignores valid points, twists people's words into something they weren't intended to be, and personally attack people for said suggestions or solutions that you don't agree with, as GAP alluded to. No one was personally attacked. Until your posts here, that is. Before that, publicly and privately, people were trying to understand GAPs suggestion. After having talked to him, it was made clear to me his suggestion and his problems are not related, and this thread is misdirected. Contrary to what you have argued here, GAP (according to GAP), was NOT saying the reason he was not successful was because of people hoarding points. According to our phone call, GAP was saying that people were hoarding points, AND he was having troubles making good fighters. The second issue is being dealt with, and is in the process of being resolved. The issue of point hoarding is entirely independent of people's success. In fact, FACTS show that teams who hoard points suffer. Bullies and Cannon both missed the GP this year, while sitting on 50-100 points. The price they paid for hoarding was they did not make the GP. Our "fearless leader" is exactly the same way, which is a problem, and it's no wonder we have anarchy a lot of the time around here. It's bullshit. The closest thing we have to anarchy on this site is you. I had a perfectly civil talk with GAP, and have civil talks with every single member of this site, WITHOUT ANY OTHER EXCEPTION. Just Kruze. Because instead of saying, "Maybe I am doing something wrongt," and fixing it like everyone else has, and does, you blame everyone else for your shortcomings, and never change. Fact is, if people were not allowed to hoard, you would not have made the GP this past season. So you directly benefit from hoarding. But at least here you felt by allying yourself with your BFF, you would have some auto-support for your ill-placed rage (probably the kind spilling over from HH, I reckon?). Anyways, facts contradict every "point" you feel you made here. So...try again another time? Or...don't?
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Mar 13, 2018 20:29:03 GMT -5
so implemplement it one one member (who the rule was made about) and not implement it on others = favouritism and not being reinmbersed for implemeted actions and leting everyone else get away with it im fine with it going back to 35 point than recieving no point after said 35 as ill just upgarde weekly.. also at that time sandmen was pissed about me using 50 on holly holm n making her legit at one time rather than building her sup slowly..
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Post by The Rocketmen on Mar 13, 2018 20:33:31 GMT -5
so implemplement it one one member (who the rule was made about) and not implement it on others = favouritism and not being reinmbersed for implemeted actions and leting everyone else get away with it im fine with it going back to 35 point than recieving no point after said 35 as ill just upgarde weekly.. also at that time sandmen was pissed about me using 50 on holly holm n making her legit at one time rather than building her sup slowly.. you're right. show me proof of when you had a point stripped away and i will give you the point back. and then you can no longer can complain about it. if you do, i am taking the point back. if you dont show me the proof then you need to stop talking about it.
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Mar 13, 2018 20:38:20 GMT -5
that would be impossible as im not digging thru 6 years of threads to find it but i know i was at 35 did not receive how about you find it youre the point allocator or you know stick to the site rules and stop giving point after 35 which would be alot easier
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