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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on May 13, 2012 14:45:17 GMT -5
Bonnar is bullshit, He's still 5 and 4. Where's Rampage? agreed when 3 of those 4 fight werew randleman,shamrock and a david vs goliath match i dont think he should be there either
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Post by The Sandmen on May 13, 2012 19:29:26 GMT -5
Bonnar is bullshit, He's still 5 and 4. Where's Rampage? agreed when 3 of those 4 fight werew randleman,shamrock and a david vs goliath match i dont think he should be there either Then it's a good thing you aren't matchmaker, isn't it?
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Post by The Sandmen on May 13, 2012 19:43:27 GMT -5
Not saying he's not deserving..... just saying there's more deserving. Good luck to Lyoto in his Championship fight I have all the stats. Find me someone, and I will gladly reconsider. Bonnar has the longest winning streak in the HW division. He has not lost in a year. You cannot compare him to someone like JDS because JDS has about 12 fights, whereas Bonnar has 9. If I gave Penn a title shit at LW right now at whoever wins the tournamant, no one would say a thing. Hell, if I gave Houston Alexander a title shot at ManMMA 16 no one would have said a thing. Both of these fighters have had a TERRIBLE year compared to Bonnar. And when it comes down to it, Bonnar is fighting heavyweights when he is technically as LHW. AND, no one is disputing that Machida is worthy. So if Bonnar beats Machida, guess what - he has proved his worth. If not, no biggie, Machida gets a title shot. Now let's all crawl back under our rocks and move forward with our lives. Jesus, it's like Cannon turned everyone on this site into PMSing 14 year olds for Christ's sake.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2012 20:01:36 GMT -5
You Mad?
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on May 13, 2012 20:02:23 GMT -5
Not saying he's not deserving..... just saying there's more deserving. Good luck to Lyoto in his Championship fight I have all the stats. Find me someone, and I will gladly reconsider. Bonnar has the longest winning streak in the HW division. He has not lost in a year. You cannot compare him to someone like JDS because JDS has about 12 fights, whereas Bonnar has 9. If I gave Penn a title shit at LW right now at whoever wins the tournamant, no one would say a thing. Hell, if I gave Houston Alexander a title shot at ManMMA 16 no one would have said a thing. Both of these fighters have had a TERRIBLE year compared to Bonnar. And when it comes down to it, Bonnar is fighting heavyweights when he is technically as LHW. AND, no one is disputing that Machida is worthy. So if Bonnar beats Machida, guess what - he has proved his worth. If not, no biggie, Machida gets a title shot. Now let's all crawl back under our rocks and move forward with our lives. Jesus, it's like Cannon turned everyone on this site into PMSing 14 year olds for Christ's sake. There both not worthy compared 2 JDS and prolly a few others really he'd own them both technically and has owned Machida twice and Bonnar just dont get any real competition so it easy to gain a streak, obviously its good thing im not matchmaker otherwise dictator Justin wouldn't have his way..Real UFC is about buy rates and sell ablility not win streak reason why Edgar,Henderson 2, Faber Cruz 3, Royce Gracie outta retirement against Hughes for championship ,BJ penn outta retirement vs Hughes for championship, Brock Lesnar 1 -1 record Title shot not this win streak ufc undisputed gimmicky thing you have going on..
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Post by The Rocketmen on May 13, 2012 20:20:00 GMT -5
lmao, I don't care if fucking Frankie Edgar fought Roy Nelson, Kimbo Slice, Tank Abbott and Royce Gracie and got a four fight win streak, if it's a four fight win streak he can step up. Bonnar is stepping up to fight Machida. If he wins, he deserves it, if he loses we all go "yeah, I expected Machida to win." But who knows what could happen. And AGAIN Cannon's logic is that because once upon a fucking time JDS won a fight against someone who is now a contender, JDS should be the contender. It doesn't work like that. JDS needs to fight his way back into the picture because right now he's OLD NEWS.
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Post by The Sandmen on May 13, 2012 20:23:21 GMT -5
There both not worthy compared 2 JDS and prolly a few others really he'd own them both technically and has owned Machida twice and Bonnar just dont get any real competition so it easy to gain a streak, obviously its good thing im not matchmaker otherwise dictator Justin wouldn't have his way..Real UFC is about buy rates and sell ablility not win streak reason why Edgar,Henderson 2, Faber Cruz 3, Royce Gracie outta retirement against Hughes for championship ,BJ penn outta retirement vs Hughes for championship, Brock Lesnar 1 -1 record Title shot not this win streak ufc undisputed gimmicky thing you have going on.. So by your logic I should give title shots to guys on losing streaks? Makes more sense. I will get right on that. I don't go by "so and so SHOULD beat this guy, so they get an automatic title shot" I go by performance. And aside from Brock and Carano, NO ONE has performed as well as Bonnar this year. Real UFC history lession for ya: Patrick Cote gets a title shot at Anderson Silva after a 5 fight win streak over Ricardo Almeida (via split Decision), Drew McFedries, Kendall Grove, Jason Day , and Scott Smith. Mark Hominick (with a win ratio of 2.5:1) gets a title shot at Jose Aldo after a 5 fight win streak over George Roop, Leonard Garcia, Yves Jabouin, Bryan Caraway, and Savant Young. PLEASE tell me Rory MacDonald, Miguel Torres, Kevin Randleman, and Hall of Famer Dan Severn are NOT better than those I listed above. And IF Bonnar walks out with a win over Machida, he more-than trumps all of the guys I have listed above that got title shots in real life.
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on May 13, 2012 20:27:10 GMT -5
well give JDS easy competition like Bonnar got a fucking David vs goliath match the next card when he previously fought the card before it and give jds randleman and frank shamrock and the arlovskis and jon jones.. easy competition my whole point isn't bout the match persay but rather this stupid win streak idea when ppl with a way better record should be there, just cuz they prviously lost once match they aren't in contension there clearly other better choices then fucking stephan bonner..
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Post by The Rocketmen on May 13, 2012 20:27:33 GMT -5
Well, at least we can all agree that ManMMA 40 - Zenith 2 is certainly hyped the fuck up, and it's not even over the main event!
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on May 13, 2012 20:28:54 GMT -5
There both not worthy compared 2 JDS and prolly a few others really he'd own them both technically and has owned Machida twice and Bonnar just dont get any real competition so it easy to gain a streak, obviously its good thing im not matchmaker otherwise dictator Justin wouldn't have his way..Real UFC is about buy rates and sell ablility not win streak reason why Edgar,Henderson 2, Faber Cruz 3, Royce Gracie outta retirement against Hughes for championship ,BJ penn outta retirement vs Hughes for championship, Brock Lesnar 1 -1 record Title shot not this win streak ufc undisputed gimmicky thing you have going on.. So by your logic I should give title shots to guys on losing streaks? Makes more sense. I will get right on that. I don't go by "so and so SHOULD beat this guy, so they get an automatic title shot" I go by performance. And aside from Brock and Carano, NO ONE has performed as well as Bonnar this year. Real UFC history lession for ya: Patrick Cote gets a title shot at Anderson Silva after a 5 fight win streak over Ricardo Almeida (via split Decision), Drew McFedries, Kendall Grove, Jason Day , and Scott Smith. Mark Hominick (with a win ratio of 2.5:1) gets a title shot at Jose Aldo after a 5 fight win streak over George Roop, Leonard Garcia, Yves Jabouin, Bryan Caraway, and Savant Young. PLEASE tell me Rory MacDonald, Miguel Torres, Kevin Randleman, and Hall of Famer Dan Severn are NOT better than those I listed above. And IF Bonnar walks out with a win over Machida, he more-than trumps all of the guys I have listed above that got title shots in real life. your clearly getting this guys confused with real life versions n not ther sucky manmma counterparts also werent u the guy who wanted to give fucking cro cop a title based omn the fact he beat jds in manmma tourney but went downhill after that and cant beat anybody now? but i refused or am i wrong?
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Post by The Sandmen on May 13, 2012 20:29:09 GMT -5
well give JDS easy competition like Bonnar got a fucking David vs goliath match the next card when he previously fought the card before it and give jds randleman and frank shamrock and the arlovskis and jon jones.. easy competition my whole point isn't bout the match persay but rather this stupid win streak idea when ppl with a way better record should be there, just cuz they prviously lost once match they aren't in contension there clearly other better choices then fucking stephan bonner.. JDS does not get a title shot. He lost recently. Bonnar didn't. Talk to me when JDS gets back in the win column bud.
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Post by The Rocketmen on May 13, 2012 20:29:44 GMT -5
well give JDS easy competition like Bonnar got a fucking David vs goliath match the next card when he previously fought the card before it and give jds randleman and frank shamrock and the arlovskis and jon jones.. easy competition my whole point isn't bout the match persay but rather this stupid win streak idea when ppl with a way better record should be there, just cuz they prviously lost once match they aren't in contension there clearly other better choices then fucking stephan bonner.. What in high hell are you even talking about? Ok, let's look at it from THIS perspective: Lyoto Machida is 7-2. If Lyoto Machida LOSES, but has the best record in the division with 7-3 (after a loss to Bonnar) then Bonnar loses to Lesnar, should Lyoto get the next shot at Lesnar because of his record? If that's what you're saying, I clearly can no longer have an intelligent conversation with you.
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Post by The Sandmen on May 13, 2012 20:31:23 GMT -5
your clearly getting this guys confused with real life versions n not ther sucky manmma counterparts From the mind that brought you (via MSN): " hows brock better then jds when he lost 2 overeem" - This was sent to me about 3 days after Brock BEAT dos Santos and won the championship.
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Post by The Rocketmen on May 13, 2012 20:32:21 GMT -5
From the mind that brought you (via MSN): "hows brock better then jds when he lost 2 overeem" - About 3 days after Brock BEAT dos Santos. Game over.
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Post by The Rocketmen on May 13, 2012 20:36:58 GMT -5
Alright, here's why this entire argument is retarded:
Ovechkin had a strong playoff performance. In ManNHL he's decent, but not great. It would be like Caps saying "you know, Ovechkin is amazing in real life, so trade me Getzlaf and Kopitar for him on ManNHL."
Now, to flip that around again, it would be as such:
"You know, Lee Stempniak has 80 points this year on ManNHL, so the Flames should trade him for Ovechkin in real life."
This is Camp Cannon. Forever.
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