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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Oct 31, 2018 12:16:20 GMT -5
Nate Marquardt has been cut via FiD and sent to Free Agency. The Sandmen suggested that we give xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club the benefit of the doubt and let him hold onto Marquardt due to his Lesnar situation, but I made note that Phoenix stated he didn't wish to receive special treatment. Therefore, I went along with the cut. This was 100% my decision, since I'm the one who runs FiD, and my decision alone. Any bitching or complaints should be directed towards The Texas Rattlesnakes. Thank you. I tried to get Marquardt off FiD while still paying out half of the points fine. I wasn't allowed to, despite no terms of how the fine was to be paid out being set up before when the fine was levied against my team. You should have no say whatsoever. If Sandman suggested Marquardt be left alone, then that's what should happen. He's the admin, you're not. |
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Oct 31, 2018 12:20:14 GMT -5
Nate Marquardt has been cut via FiD and sent to Free Agency. The Sandmen suggested that we give xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club the benefit of the doubt and let him hold onto Marquardt due to his Lesnar situation, but I made note that Phoenix stated he didn't wish to receive special treatment. Therefore, I went along with the cut. This was 100% my decision, since I'm the one who runs FiD, and my decision alone. Any bitching or complaints should be directed towards The Texas Rattlesnakes. Thank you. I tried to get Marquardt off FiD while still paying out half of the points fine. I wasn't allowed to, despite not terms of how the fine was to be paid out. You should have no say whatsoever. If Sandman suggested Marquardt be left alone, that's what should happen. He's the admin, you're not. However, I am staff, and do have staff jobs. Running FiD is one of them. You could have simply removed three points from him, and it wouldn't have cost you a thing. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Oct 31, 2018 12:28:43 GMT -5
Clarification.
Sandmen did not suggest "Marquardt be left alone". Sandman put forth the suggestion that Marquardt be put in second-tier of Danger, meaning he would be in high level danger, then if he won or was upgraded, he would still be in high-level danger for another fight.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Oct 31, 2018 12:30:47 GMT -5
I tried to get Marquardt off FiD while still paying out half of the points fine. I wasn't allowed to, despite not terms of how the fine was to be paid out. You should have no say whatsoever. If Sandman suggested Marquardt be left alone, that's what should happen. He's the admin, you're not. However, I am staff, and do have staff jobs. Running FiD is one of them. You could have simply removed three points from him, and it wouldn't have cost you a thing. What are you talking about dude? To get him off FiD I had to put at least 3pts into him, I tried to put 4 and I was prevented from doing so. The effort was made to do it. It's not like I just sat there and let it happen. Plus my team was already stripped of fighters that you've reaped the benefits of as well. If I'd made no attempt to get Marquardt off FiD, that'd be way different, but that's not what happened at all. |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Oct 31, 2018 12:32:07 GMT -5
Clarification. Sandmen did not suggest "Marquardt be left alone". Sandman put forth the suggestion that Marquardt be put in second-tier of Danger, meaning he would be in high level danger, then if he won or was upgraded, he would still be in high-level danger for another fight. Fair enough... But at least I made the attempt to do something about it instead of nothing. |
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Oct 31, 2018 12:33:57 GMT -5
Except, it doesn't say you have to put three points into him. It states that you must perform three points of work. Subtracting points out of him counts as work.
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Post by The Sandmen on Oct 31, 2018 12:44:37 GMT -5
The effort was made to do it. This was my argument. As I always say, this site is about "Spirit of the law" over "letter of the law". FiD is no different. Since I do not feel Nate is neglected at his current home, I did not feel this mattered that much at this point. Also, it's not as though this is GSP or Wanderlei Silva, with a big line-up of people willing to take the fighter on and work on him or anything. |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Oct 31, 2018 12:49:35 GMT -5
Except, it doesn't say you have to put three points into him. It states that you must perform three points of work. Subtracting points out of him counts as work. I dunno what you're definition of work is, but Marquardt isn't capped, I don't think, so subtracting 3pts is making him worse, not better. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Oct 31, 2018 12:52:22 GMT -5
I dunno what you're definition of work is, but Marquardt isn't capped, I don't think, so subtracting 3pts is making him worse, not better. Clarification (to everyone, not just you): This is not necessarily true. If Gomi is a striker, with maxed punching, kicking and takedowns, if i subtract 12 points from his takedowns, I am definitely making Gomi better, even though he is losing points. He will fight more to his speciality, not be a clusterfuck fighter trying to do too much at once. If a fighter is on a 5+ fight losing streak, whatever is currently in him is NOT working, therefore taking out points (FROM THE RIGHT PLACES) cannot hurt. Obviously don't take them from places like toughness or conditioning. But fine-tuning skills absolutely counts. |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Oct 31, 2018 13:02:42 GMT -5
I dunno what you're definition of work is, but Marquardt isn't capped, I don't think, so subtracting 3pts is making him worse, not better. Clarification (to everyone, not just you): This is not necessarily true. If Gomi is a striker, with maxed punching, kicking and takedowns, if i subtract 12 points form takedowns, I am making Gomi better, even though he is losing points. Because he will fight to his speciality, not be a clusterfuck fighter. If a fighter is on a 5+ fight losing streak, whatever is currently in him is NOT working, therefore taking out points (FROM THE RIGHT PLACES) cannot hurt. Obviously don't take them from places like toughness or conditioning. But fine-tuning skills absolutely counts. Yep. I get that. The point I was making about Marquardt is that I'm the only one that has done anything with him and I think pulling points out of him at this point would be a hindrance not a help, nor would that be working on him IMO. He just hasn't been getting the best match ups for his skill set, which happens too. That Maia fight was weird though. He should have done a bit better against him. |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Oct 31, 2018 13:08:22 GMT -5
Clarification (to everyone, not just you): This is not necessarily true. If Gomi is a striker, with maxed punching, kicking and takedowns, if i subtract 12 points form takedowns, I am making Gomi better, even though he is losing points. Because he will fight to his speciality, not be a clusterfuck fighter. If a fighter is on a 5+ fight losing streak, whatever is currently in him is NOT working, therefore taking out points (FROM THE RIGHT PLACES) cannot hurt. Obviously don't take them from places like toughness or conditioning. But fine-tuning skills absolutely counts. Yep. I get that. The point I was making about Marquardt is that I'm the only one that has done anything with him and I think pulling points out of him at this point would be a hindrance not a help, nor would that be working on him IMO. He just hasn't been getting the best match ups for his skill set, which happens too. That Maia fight was weird though. He should have done a bit better against him. Getting the right match-up would always be a favorable end result when it comes to fights haha. In the end, Marquardt doesn't really have high value on him, especially now that he lost his way to free agency, so there's always the opportunity that when your team resets post-Lesnar, Marquardt might be there to be drafted or re-purchased and you can try again. Unless there's something about that in the rules that I have forgotten about, but yeah. I'm sure we'll see him again. |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Oct 31, 2018 13:15:30 GMT -5
Yep. I get that. The point I was making about Marquardt is that I'm the only one that has done anything with him and I think pulling points out of him at this point would be a hindrance not a help, nor would that be working on him IMO. He just hasn't been getting the best match ups for his skill set, which happens too. That Maia fight was weird though. He should have done a bit better against him. Getting the right match-up would always be a favorable end result when it comes to fights haha. In the end, Marquardt doesn't really have high value on him, especially now that he lost his way to free agency, so there's always the opportunity that when your team resets post-Lesnar, Marquardt might be there to be drafted or re-purchased and you can try again. Unless there's something about that in the rules that I have forgotten about, but yeah. I'm sure we'll see him again. I believe there is a rule about FiD that you can't take a fighter for a full season after he's lost that way. Though it sounds to me as though I get to keep him for now. |
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Oct 31, 2018 13:15:42 GMT -5
Also, he was fucking capped.
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Post by The Rocketmen on Oct 31, 2018 13:23:47 GMT -5
Is the fighter re-attainable during the off-season for the team that lost him or is it a full calendar season, so in this case, PHX could re-purchase him from free agency after ManMMA 451?
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Oct 31, 2018 13:41:50 GMT -5
Getting the right match-up would always be a favorable end result when it comes to fights haha. In the end, Marquardt doesn't really have high value on him, especially now that he lost his way to free agency, so there's always the opportunity that when your team resets post-Lesnar, Marquardt might be there to be drafted or re-purchased and you can try again. Unless there's something about that in the rules that I have forgotten about, but yeah. I'm sure we'll see him again. Though it sounds to me as though I get to keep him for now. This is false. He has been cut. |
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