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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jul 30, 2013 14:37:09 GMT -5
If you don't see the difference between a 1-3 fighter losing rookie of the year, and a team 1st or 2nd in standings with 2 of 4 league champions losing, I feel bad for you. She didn't lose to anyone though; that's my point. lol She had no competition except "the league" putting it to a "popularity vote", that you claim to "LOVE" so much. I've had to accept it, why can't you take your own advice and do the same thing? I don't like the decision, but you put it to the vote, as was with the other awards you were up for and youy didn't get cuz you didn't receive enough votes; it's the exact same principle. |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jul 30, 2013 14:47:45 GMT -5
But when you're the ONLY rookie in a season, for whatever reason, you should receive that award; you were the best rookie. That one was not a popularity vote. I don't think ANYONE felt she should win it. It had nothing to do with you. It had to do with her not being worthy of an award. Awards are meant to be earned. Not handed out for free just because someone was the only rookie. You should try to EARN awards. It's more rewarding than asking for them on a technicality. There was no technicality; she won cuz she was the only one. And I'd be saying the same thing if it was anyone else's fighter that was in the same situation. Period. But it was voted down, as were many your fighters and your team in these sets of votes; as was Condit for Fighter of the Year. That's what happens when things get put to a vote, some things get voted in and the others just don't. We all have to deal with it, whether we agree with what was voted for or not. That's the way majority voting works. That's really all I'm saying here. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 30, 2013 14:48:54 GMT -5
There is logical reason for Sarah to not get rookie of the year - she had a win percentage of 25%...No matter who had her, I would not vote for a losing fighter to WIN the rookie of the year AWARD. It's an AWARD, and should be EARNED.
There is no logical reason for team of the year standards to change every year, other than user bias.
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Jul 30, 2013 14:52:54 GMT -5
Majority voting is people voting on their own rather having your bf vote the same way as you! but seriously stop nominating shitty things you didn't address that so maybe you'll acknowledge it now that I said it three times!
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 30, 2013 14:53:49 GMT -5
Also, we are not talking about 1 or 2 people voting down Sarah D. Bro, of all of the poll voters, you were the ONLY ONE who thought she should be handed the award for free. The vote was the most one-sided award I think we have ever had. People don't want losers getting awards for free. They want winners to EARN awards.
Sarah did nothing to earn the award. Winning titles, coming 1st or second in the league - those are accomplishments. Sarah had no accomplishments. None.
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Post by The Rocketmen on Jul 30, 2013 14:56:53 GMT -5
I voted for Ferocity because I think she's had a few bad seasons and to have one really solid one was impressive.
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 30, 2013 14:59:28 GMT -5
I voted for Ferocity because I think she's had a few bad seasons and to have one really solid one was impressive. But not because you thought her team had a better season this year than Cannon or Sandmen. +1 my point. |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Jul 30, 2013 15:00:32 GMT -5
Not really, I credited her with a solid Grand Prix win, and that said, I did vote Sandman best team last year for the same reasons, so I believe I have a valid reason for my vote.
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 30, 2013 15:19:52 GMT -5
Valid enough for me.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jul 30, 2013 16:20:03 GMT -5
Majority voting is people voting on their own rather having your bf vote the same way as you! If that were actually the case numbnuts, D'Alelio would've had 2 votes for Rookie of the Year not just 1, though we shouldn't expect any less since you can't count. So shut the fuck up. but seriously stop nominating shitty things you didn't address that so maybe you'll acknowledge it now that I said it three times! I did address it, you just can't read either, apparently. :  ROFL How the hell do function being illiterate and not being able to count? Jebus. |
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Jul 30, 2013 16:30:45 GMT -5
Majority voting is people voting on their own rather having your bf vote the same way as you! If that were actually the case numbnuts, D'Alelio would've had 2 votes for Rookie of the Year not just 1, though we shouldn't expect any less since you can't count. So shut the fuck up. but seriously stop nominating shitty things you didn't address that so maybe you'll acknowledge it now that I said it three times! I did address it, you just can't read either, apparently. : ROFL How the hell do function being illiterate and not being able to count? Jebus. well maybe u should take my advice and not nominate ian mcall for surprise fighter of the year with a 2 -3 record and only accomplishment is an upset win over sanchez when he should only be awarded for the upset win as he isn't worthy of surprise fighter nomination with a losing record |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jul 30, 2013 16:39:34 GMT -5
If that were actually the case numbnuts, D'Alelio would've had 2 votes for Rookie of the Year not just 1, though we shouldn't expect any less since you can't count. So shut the fuck up. I did address it, you just can't read either, apparently. : ROFL How the hell do function being illiterate and not being able to count? Jebus. well maybe u should take my advice and not nominate ian mcall for surprise fighter of the year with a 2 -3 record and only accomplishment is an upset win over sanchez when he should only be awarded for the upset win as he isn't worthy of surprise fighter nomination with a losing record Look pal... it's all right here: McCall was a surprise fighter last season by virtue of starting 0-1 on the season and the upset win over Sanchez. It's just a fact. The guy wasn't even on my team at that point dude, so that wasn't even a factor for me in voting or at any point during any of this. I'll also add that I didn't make the final decision on who the nominees were. There were quite a number of my recommendations that didn't make the final cut; Sandman agreed that McCall did. My question to you is: How many recommendations did you send in to Sandman yourself? Cuz I went through the entire season of results myself and pulled out what I thought were highlights, re-read some fights, anlooked over fighters records and accomplishments over the entire season to compile my list, whether they were my fighters or not. Can you say the same? |
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Jul 30, 2013 16:51:07 GMT -5
xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club I didn't nominate any fighters i'm not like u who has 2 bullgart awards by getting my bf's gap and who knows else 2 vote 4 me, just because you didn't want vote 4 me cause I troll the troll aka u also I would have nominated anything it woulda been rousey ko over kaufmann not dominick cruz over rousey as kaufmann koes cyborg and carano that season I wouldn't have nominated mccall on a lucky fight like you for surprise fighter of the year that's dumb he accomplished nothing and his record was 2-2
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jul 30, 2013 18:04:56 GMT -5
xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club I didn't nominate any fighters i'm not like u who has 2 bullgart awards by getting my bf's gap and who knows else 2 vote 4 me, just because you didn't want vote 4 me cause I troll the troll aka u also I would have nominated anything it woulda been rousey ko over kaufmann not dominick cruz over rousey as kaufmann koes cyborg and carano that season I wouldn't have nominated mccall on a lucky fight like you for surprise fighter of the year that's dumb he accomplished nothing and his record was 2-2 wtf are you on dude? Every single season Sandman requests for EVERYONE to submit their ideas for the awards cuz he doesn't want to seem bias when he picks them all. Yet every year, nearly no one sends in their standout nominees for consideration, and every year there's someone going "Why wasn't this person nominated?" or "Why wasn't that fight nominated?", etc. Fact is that if I had thought you were the best team this year; I would've voted for you. If I thought you had the best fighter this year; I would've voted for him. In fact, despite not liking Condit all that much, he was one of my nominations for Fighter of the Year. The reason I didn't nominate him for Surprise Fighter of the Year, is because he's supposed to be about as good as he was this season, every season. So it wasn't that big of a surprise to me that he went 6-0 and won the title. Fighter of the Year nominee, sure. He went 6-0 and won the title. 2 others did the exact same thing and Hansen was the better between him and Condit because of the path taken to get there and the opponents beaten. Condit had a cakewalk to the championship fight against Hughes, and obliterated the highly upgraded champion Hansen: Thomas, Aldo, Cruz & Henderson Condit: R. MacDonald, Nick Diaz, F. Shamrock, Hughes So Condit being a surprise? Not to me he wasn't; not in the slightest with the opponents he faced in comparison. That was Sandman's addition to the Surprise of the Year. So thank him for that cuz I felt King Mo going 0-3 was more surprising that Condit going 6-0. As for McCall, he was the biggest surprise because he'd been sitting on the FA list since Season 1 at 0-1; no one would touch him, then bang... he's taken by the Crows and surged to a 3-2 record for the season (Not 2-2, as you claim.) with victories over the #1 seed, Diego Sanchez, and Jeremy Stephens, who was also seeded at the time. That's impressive shit for someone who was basically a rookie, and likely should've been a nominee for Rookie of the Year too being that he started with only 1 fight under his belt to start the season. It's the reason I picked him up in the draft when he came available. Look, I get you're pissed off that you got shut out this year; I know all to well what it's like be shut out. so don't think that I don't understand. Your team and your fighters had a really good year but so too did Ferocity & Sandman, and both were a little better by virtue of making the finals of the GP. It nothing to do with the fact that we've been having trolling wars or anything, because, if you've even noticed, I've actually been praising a number of your fighters, including your precious little Rousey. So, I dunno what your problem is half the time now. Old habits die hard perhaps, but honestly, I think you just can't help yourself. You think I'm out to get you, and maybe I am a little when we're having a little back and forths, but on something like this, I vote for what I think was the best, not who has what fighter. I'm still getting to know who most folks have and I have to refer to the list most of the time. |
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Post by xx - Team GAP on Jul 30, 2013 22:54:30 GMT -5
team of the year is a popularity vote... because my opinion of who is the best team of the season may differ from cannon or phx or sandmen ... each person is allowed to have an opinion on who did the best.. so the winner may be the team with best record one year and the next it could be the team who won the GP... hell it could even be most improved team one year... fact is each person has a vote and an opinion.. and whoever wins the vote wins the award. we just have to make sure the people we vote for have earned it and if we have to we can explain why we voted the way we did.... nobody should be voting because "I don't like somebody"
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ROFL How the hell do function being illiterate and not being able to count? Jebus.
