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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 27, 2013 2:18:20 GMT -5
Season 8 Awards
Surprise Fighter of the Year Ian McCall
Submission of the Year Megumi Fujii Rolling Kimura submission over Barb Honchak ManMMA 141
Knockout of the Year Sarah Kaufman KO of Gina Carano, via punches ManMMA 154
Upset of the Year Ian McCall knocks out #1 ranked Diego Sanchez ManMMA 156
Fight of the Year Brock Lesnar vs. Lyoto Machida ManMMA 160
Fighter of the Year Joachim Hansen
Rookie of the Year Kelvin Gastellum
Team of the Year Ferocity
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Post by xx - Team GAP on Jul 27, 2013 2:21:36 GMT -5
uhmm... you missed my award
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jul 29, 2013 21:04:09 GMT -5
uhmm... you missed my award You mean the Trojan® ENZTM Boner of the Year Award?! lol It was scrapped. We had a 5-way tie between GAP, Phoenix FC, Cannon, HammerFists & Sandman and we couldn't fit all our names on the plaque, plus we didn't feel it was fair to the rest of the league that 80% of the teams in the league win 1 award.
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Post by xx - Team GAP on Jul 29, 2013 22:09:34 GMT -5
sucks.... i wanted to win that award
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 29, 2013 22:58:01 GMT -5
Nice, Fighter of the Year!
I also think it's funny how at this point people are clearly not voting for me for Team of the Year due to a bias.
By voting for Ferocity, you are saying "winning the grand prix is more important than placing in the top 3, winning 2 belts, and maintaining them for a season", since Grand Prix is literally the only thing she did that neither Cannon nor Sandmen did. But last year...I won the Grand Prix AND held belts...and still did not get voted team of the year. This kind of takes the fun out of awards when people vote against people, rather than for accomplishments.
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Post by xx - Team GAP on Jul 30, 2013 2:43:09 GMT -5
wow dude.. your the owner of the site... and you bitch and moan about not getting team of the year.. because we think that Ferocity did damn well for herself.. who says it's a bias against you? winning the grand prix is like winning the team championship for the entire year. It's the superbowl. I don't know about other people but I did not vote against you ... I voted for someone. I am not biased against you but I think it is in sour taste when you come on here as the promoter and owner of this site and you complain about how people voted aginst you instead of being happy for someone else that they were able to sway the votes by winning the grand prix. Don't sour Ferocity's win by complaining. Congratulate her.. and work hard for next season.
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 30, 2013 10:41:10 GMT -5
winning the grand prix is like winning the team championship for the entire year. It's the superbowl. That is exactly my point. All of this was done by Sandmen last year, and someone else won. I am frustrated moreso with the lack of consistency with voting, than with losing. I don't care about losing, personally, it's all about inconsistency. One season, the Grand Prix is meaningless and having belts and standing is important; then the very next season, belts and standings are completely meaningless and the Grand Prix is everything. I don't buy it. Awards should not be a popularity contest. They should be based on accomplishments. CONSISTENTLY. (Also, for the record, I know for a fact one person voted for Ferocity just because he did not want to vote for Cannon or me. I was skyping with him when he cast his vote, and told me exactly why he was doing it.)
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Jul 30, 2013 13:12:53 GMT -5
phx and his boyfriend *cough*Gap*cough* always not voting my guys condit shoulda won instead of mccall
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jul 30, 2013 13:57:11 GMT -5
winning the grand prix is like winning the team championship for the entire year. It's the superbowl. That is exactly my point. All of this was done by Sandmen last year, and someone else won. I am frustrated moreso with the lack of consistency with voting, than with losing. I don't care about losing, personally, it's all about inconsistency. One season, the Grand Prix is meaningless and having belts and standing is important; then the very next season, belts and standings are completely meaningless and the Grand Prix is everything. I don't buy it. Awards should not be a popularity contest. They should be based on accomplishments. CONSISTENTLY. (Also, for the record, I know for a fact one person voted for Ferocity just because he did not want to vote for Cannon or me. I was skyping with him when he cast his vote, and told me exactly why he was doing it.) I'll tell you virtually what you told me when D'Alelio didn't receive Rookie of the Year, as she should have and that was put to a vote; Suck it up! Cuz I had to endure your turning of that into a "popularity vote" aswell; all because of you claiming that it "tainted the spirit of the award" only because she went 1-3, which effectively penalized my team for being the only one to draft a rookie last year. But now you'll hide behind "Oh well, everyone else voted for it. So it was the right call." Yet when others don't vote for you, you piss and moan just as bad as I do sometimes about "voting inconsistency" and it being a "popularity vote". FFS Get over it. To use your own words Sandman: "The League voted. Nothing can be done about it now." I mean really, don't be sitting there and bitching to us about inconsistency and bias when I've been here for 5.25-ish seasons, and this is the first year I've won ANYTHING and really only the third time I've ever really been nominated for anything other than "Worst Fight of the Year" or the joke you made out of Lashley as being Rookie of the Year after going 0-3 when both Kampmann & Danzig went 2-0. That's what you call inconsistency; that's what you call bias. Cuz the only reason I really got on this season's ballots so often, other than the Lesnar/Machida fight, was because I submitted my fights/fighters, along with the others I sent in, just so that they even had a chance to be considered on any ballot this season. Hell, I can't even claim McCall's awards here as team accomplishments cuz he was with the Crows last season; I can only place it as his own personal fighter accomplishments. lol That's really sad too.
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Jul 30, 2013 14:07:01 GMT -5
well phx with a shitty record like 0- 3 u don't deserve an award neither should have McCall been elected or received the award with a record of 2-3 really when condit went 6-0 and rua went 5-1 sop please don't submit shitty record next season when ur just gunna get ur bfs 2 vote 4 the shittiest record and for you!
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 30, 2013 14:23:15 GMT -5
If you don't see the difference between a 1-3 fighter losing rookie of the year, and a team 1st or 2nd in standings with 2 of 4 league champions losing, I feel bad for you.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jul 30, 2013 14:29:10 GMT -5
well phx with a shitty record like 0- 3 u don't deserve an award neither should have McCall been elected or received the award with a record of 2-3 really when condit went 6-0 and rua went 5-1 sop please don't submit shitty record next season when ur just gunna get ur bfs 2 vote 4 the shittiest record and for you! McCall was a surprise fighter last season by virtue of starting 0-1 on the season and the upset win over Sanchez. It's just a fact. The guy wasn't even on my team at that point dude, so that wasn't even a factor for me in voting or at any point during any of this. I do 100% agree that an 0-3 fighter (Lashley) shouldn't have been nominated in Season 3 over two 2-0 fighters, even though I think you were trying to refer to D'Alelio. But when you're the ONLY rookie in a season, for whatever reason, you should receive that award; you were the best rookie. Let's say, hypothetically, for example, that Darnell Nurse ends up being the only rookie next season in the NHL (It's not likely at all, but for the purposes of the point that I'm making, let's just say that's how it works out.) He has an average season and nothing explosive on the score sheet cuz he's a defensive defenseman, but the rest of his numbers were decent, yet not spectacular. I highly doubt that the NHL would award no award and they'd give the award to the only rookie in the league. That's just my opinion. If you disagree, kool. That's just how I feel on that matter. That's it.
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 30, 2013 14:29:35 GMT -5
all because of you claiming that it "tainted the spirit of the award" I am glad you brought this up, because this is exactly what I am saying here. Instead of awarding this award to the best team of the year, it has become a popularity contest. Either winning the Grand Prix makes you the best team of the year almost automatically (meaning Sandmen got shafted last year) or having belts and coming in first in standings does (meaning Cannon got shafted this year). The spirit of the award means it goes to the best team.
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 30, 2013 14:32:47 GMT -5
But when you're the ONLY rookie in a season, for whatever reason, you should receive that award; you were the best rookie. That one was not a popularity vote. I don't think ANYONE felt she should win it. It had nothing to do with you. It had to do with her not being worthy of an award. Awards are meant to be earned. Not handed out for free just because someone was the only rookie. You should try to EARN awards. It's more rewarding than asking for them on a technicality.
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Jul 30, 2013 14:33:14 GMT -5
well phx with a shitty record like 0- 3 u don't deserve an award neither should have McCall been elected or received the award with a record of 2-3 really when condit went 6-0 and rua went 5-1 sop please don't submit shitty record next season when ur just gunna get ur bfs 2 vote 4 the shittiest record and for you! McCall was a surprise fighter last season by virtue of starting 0-1 on the season and the upset win over Sanchez. It's just a fact. The guy wasn't even on my team at that point dude, so that wasn't even a factor for me in voting or at any point during any of this. I do 100% agree that an 0-3 fighter (Lashley) shouldn't have been nominated in Season 3 over two 2-0 fighters, even though I think you were trying to refer to D'Alelio. But when you're the ONLY rookie in a season, for whatever reason, you should receive that award; you were the best rookie. Let's say, hypothetically, for example, that Darnell Nurse ends up being the only rookie next season in the NHL (It's not likely at all, but for the purposes of the point that I'm making, let's just say that's how it works out.) He has an average season and nothing explosive on the score sheet cuz he's a defensive defenseman, but the rest of his numbers were decent, yet not spectacular. I highly doubt that the NHL would award no award and they'd give the award to the only rookie in the league. That's just my opinion. If you disagree, kool. That's just how I feel on that matter. That's it. yeah so that why u didn't vote 4 condit or rua who won more fights in 1 season then McCall has actual fights because I didn't vote 4 shitty d'alelio 0-3 4 rookie of year last year so u get your bf gap 2 vote how you vote.. quit nominating shitty fights and shitty records when he accomplished nothing he beat sanchez woohoo condit beat matt hughes and won a tourney and a belt and McCall didn't win a belt just got1 lucky fight in
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