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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 30, 2013 10:43:32 GMT -5
He sure is, with those LW championship belts, and that Grand Prix sweep/MVP under his belt.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jul 30, 2013 12:52:52 GMT -5
He sure is, with those LW championship belts, and that Grand Prix sweep/MVP under his belt. Belts? Ummm... what "belts"? Fella's only won it once there bro. And he has yet to defend it as many of times as Diego did, which I believe won't happen. Is he good? Yes. Is he elite? Possibly... time still needs to play out on that cuz he's only been around for about 3 seasons now. The thing that separates Hanson right now is the 26+ points put into him, which doesn't hurt either, but I doubt any other LW has had that amount of points put into him as of yet either. So, you can rest on that, I suppose.
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 30, 2013 13:09:48 GMT -5
You talk about the upgrades as if they are a bad thing. Is it not better than tossing 26+ points into someone and having them still lose?
Also, Benson has had some upgrades, and Diego has had a lot.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jul 30, 2013 18:53:26 GMT -5
You talk about the upgrades as if they are a bad thing. Is it not better than tossing 26+ points into someone and having them still lose? No they're not a bad thing. And yes, exactly my point. Everyone else that's popped that amount of points or more into a fighter, the fighter either stays relatively the same if the win relatively regularly, just continues losing more than they win or you have to put like 50 points into 1 fighter, like Cannon did, just to get them even remotely close, and even then, she still can't beat Cyborg. So yah, popping that many points into a fighter and having them win is probably better... I wouldn't know, and neither do allot of folks in this league other than you. So you can take your arrogant little comment there... shine it up real nice and turn it sideways cuz no matter how much you deny it, more often than not the facts show that you know better how to upgrade the fighters within the simulator than anyone else in the league. You can claim you don't know what your doing, that it has nothing to do with their original builds, and however many points you put into them is how we make them, but it isn't 100% true. And you even proved it with Hansen that if you put even 1 point in the "wrong place" based on how their build initially, the fighter gets fucked up no matter how good they are. It's not saying you're bias or cheating or anything other than the fact that you know the simulator because you work with it constantly. That's it. That's why you can bring in these project fighters like Hansen, McGregor, Slice etc. and make them amazing, meanwhile, basically everyone else has to just luck out.
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 30, 2013 19:23:15 GMT -5
You take take your whining, whine it up real nice, turn it whine-ways, and whine it straight up your whiney ass. (winning) - cuz no matter how much you say it, you're not correct. When it comes to the simulator, I post everything I have access to. I know absolutely no more than you guys. If you want to blame me (or Ferocity, or Rebel Storm, or Underdogs, or HammerFists) for being better at upgrading fighters than you, go nuts. But everyone I have listed has made a STRONG contender (Kaufman, Fisher, Daley, Coleman) out of minimal, well-placed upgrades.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jul 30, 2013 20:30:04 GMT -5
You take take your whining, whine it up real nice, turn it whine-ways, and whine it straight up your whiney ass. (winning) - cuz no matter how much you say it, you're not correct. When it comes to the simulator, I post everything I have access to. I know absolutely no more than you guys. If you want to blame me (or Ferocity, or Rebel Storm, or Underdogs, or HammerFists) for being better at upgrading fighters than you, go nuts. But everyone I have listed has made a STRONG contender (Kaufman, Fisher, Daley, Coleman) out of minimal, well-placed upgrades. Kaufman - Agreed, but still minimal upgrades compared to nearly everyone. Fisher - Nearly ever single Rebel Storm has gotten has gone into him and still no title. Daley - Was good right off the hop and has been receiving a majority of his team's points anyways and still no title. Coleman - has been passed around so many times between teams, who knows how many upgrades he's actually gotten, yet still no title. My point is that every GM on this site has some sort of working knowledge of MMA and are fans of the sport. Yet, when it comes to upgrading our fighters, everyone has a hard time with upgrading any fighter, minus Kaufman & Cyborg, but not you. Hammer's been struggling with Coenen for many seasons now, and he shouldn't have been. Ferocity had been struggling with Koscheck for atleast 1-2 seasons before dumping a shitload of points into him in one shot, and now he is how he is. And of course the piece de resistance, Cannon's Rousey at nearly 50 points to win her the title, and that still basically took an entire season or two to achieve that. That's a ridiculous amount of point. Meanwhile, you put points into any fighter and they're good. And again, you say it's all well-placed upgrades... well, how is it that you know these "well-placed" upgrades but it's more trial and error for everyone else? or they have to dump a bucket load of points into one fighter and neglect their other fighters to achieve the same or not even quite that? You can totally equate that to your knowledge of the program. It's not an insult. It's not an accusation of any thing either. It's just fact. It's odd, but it is just a fact.
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Jul 30, 2013 21:58:59 GMT -5
xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club i built rousey ground game and subs Gnp strnegth 4 the takedowns ko resistance maxed toughness stamina maxed etc etc etc the simulator prefers stand up fighter over ground game believe me i wont make the rousey mistake with my other gals
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Post by The West Coast Knockouts on Jul 30, 2013 22:15:18 GMT -5
NAH!! Hanson is a chump... Lmao keep hating man keep hating
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 31, 2013 8:35:42 GMT -5
My point is that every GM on this site has some sort of working knowledge of MMA and are fans of the sport. Yet, when it comes to upgrading our fighters, everyone has a hard time with upgrading any fighter, minus Kaufman & Cyborg, but not you. Then you are saying my working knowledge of MMA is better than everyones? Cool! Thanks bro!
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jul 31, 2013 11:47:14 GMT -5
My point is that every GM on this site has some sort of working knowledge of MMA and are fans of the sport. Yet, when it comes to upgrading our fighters, everyone has a hard time with upgrading any fighter, minus Kaufman & Cyborg, but not you. Then you are saying my working knowledge of MMA is better than everyones? Cool! Thanks bro! No, not all. I have no idea to what extent your knowledge of MMA goes to. I know you have opinions and like certain fighters, etc. and I know you have a working knowledge of the sport like everyone else does on the site. But what I am saying though, is that because you work with the simulator, you actually have a better understanding of the program than everyone else does. You always deny it, but how could you not when you deal with it so much?! lol Now, I'm not saying you know EVERYTHING about the program cuz of all the glitches and things wrong with it, but you tend to understand where the upgrades need to go within the program. It does have a little to do with your MMA knowledge, but you also tend to see more with the program than we do because you sim and you get a more first hand look at how the structure works.
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 31, 2013 13:32:30 GMT -5
But what I am saying though, is that because you work with the simulator, you actually have a better understanding of the program than everyone else does. Cool. So if you play NHL 13 for PS3 more than I do, you could program NHL 14. Makes sense... But what I am saying though, is that because you work with the simulator, you actually have a better understanding of the program than everyone else does. You always deny it, but how could you not when you deal with it so much?! lol Now, I'm not saying you know EVERYTHING about the program cuz of all the glitches and things wrong with it, but you tend to understand where the upgrades need to go within the program. It does have a little to do with your MMA knowledge, but you also tend to see more with the program than we do because you sim and you get a more first hand look at how the structure works. See, now all playfulness aside, this is the type of crap that totally takes 100% of the fun out of everything for me and makes me just want to shut the whole site down. You ( xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club) take no responsibility for CHOOSING shitty fighters (D'Alelio, Nunes, Mein, Herman, Kampmann, Jason MacDonald) and doing a mediocre job upgrading them, and give me NO credit for choosing GOOD fighters (Hansen...umm...Aoki? Who else are you even talkinga bout here????), and upgrading him to their strengths (CAUSE I KNOW HOW THEY FIGHT). You just chalk it up to "I use the program". It's bullshit. Ferocity barely has time to be on the fucking SITE, let alone the program, and she upgrades better than you, so what is your excuse with that one? She turned both Koscheck and Kaufman into champions.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jul 31, 2013 20:51:04 GMT -5
See, now all playfulness aside, this is the type of crap that totally takes 100% of the fun out of everything for me and makes me just want to shut the whole site down. You ( xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club) take no responsibility for CHOOSING shitty fighters (D'Alelio, Nunes, Mein, Herman, Kampmann, Jason MacDonald) and doing a mediocre job upgrading them, and give me NO credit for choosing GOOD fighters (Hansen...umm...Aoki? Who else are you even talkinga bout here????), and upgrading him to their strengths (CAUSE I KNOW HOW THEY FIGHT). You just chalk it up to "I use the program". It's bullshit. Ferocity barely has time to be on the fucking SITE, let alone the program, and she upgrades better than you, so what is your excuse with that one? She turned both Koscheck and Kaufman into champions. I take full responsibility for the fighters I took, what I don't take responsibility for is is your OPINION that they're "shitty"; that's on you. As for my "mediocre job upgrading", I did the exact same thing with D'Alelio. I upgraded her to her strengths (CAUSE I KNOW HOW SHE FIGHTS) and I don't get the same results as you do, that's what I chalk it up to. How do you explain that? Cuz it sure as hell isn't mediocre upgrading, she should be pretty nasty to contend with now. lol
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 31, 2013 23:19:49 GMT -5
Cuz it sure as hell isn't mediocre upgrading, The results beg to differ. And seriously, after all our private discussions, you bring this crap up AGAIN? Come on now...it's time to move on.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Aug 1, 2013 0:40:17 GMT -5
Cuz it sure as hell isn't mediocre upgrading, The results beg to differ. And seriously, after all our private discussions, you bring this crap up AGAIN? Come on now...it's time to move on. Was there any name calling or insulting in that? I asked you a serious question and you answer with a troll... good to know.
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Post by The Sandmen on Aug 1, 2013 0:42:58 GMT -5
What exactly do you want me to explain? How to upgrade your fighter? Nah, you can figure that out. HammerFists, Ramrod, Cannon, Ferocity, Underdogs and Storm have all developed very successful fighters. I provided them with no special help, so I don't think I will give you any special help either.
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