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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jan 5, 2014 0:33:49 GMT -5
It won't wreck anything. It'd only be for the title fights, not other fights. It's basically for these types of circumstances, like the "infinite rounds" to prevent draws in championship fights. Do they happen allot? No, but it's there to basically ensure a finish, as this will be. but there was a finish a eye cut what don't u understand about that your the only one to ever receive a rematch i'll bitch about rousey getting one and you wont deem it worthy enough or some bull shit so no, no rematches this isn't ufc styled its bellator tourney styled and who gave you the power and pull to decide this is bullshit as well like or not its not going to happen as she not the number one contender and doesn't deserve a rematch until she wins another tourney If Rousey was in a title fight and a doctor stoppage occurred within 30 secs of the fight starting, like what happened in the Carano/D'Alelio fight at 190, then absolutely there'd be a rematch. I think you're arguing for the sake of arguing here bro. I know you don't like me, or D'Alelio for that matter, but I think you're allowing that to cloud too much of your thinking to actually see what's happening with this and how it will help everyone. |
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Jan 5, 2014 0:42:36 GMT -5
but there was a finish a eye cut what don't u understand about that your the only one to ever receive a rematch i'll bitch about rousey getting one and you wont deem it worthy enough or some bull shit so no, no rematches this isn't ufc styled its bellator tourney styled and who gave you the power and pull to decide this is bullshit as well like or not its not going to happen as she not the number one contender and doesn't deserve a rematch until she wins another tourney If Rousey was in a title fight and a doctor stoppage occured within 30 secs of the fight starting, like what happened in the Carano/D'Alelio fight at 190, then absolutely there'd be a rematch. I think you're arguing for the sake of arguing here bro. I know you don't like me, or D'Alelio for that, but I think you're allowing that to cloud too much of your thinking to actually see what's happening with this and how it will help everyone. no id take the fight as a loss and would move on a cuts a legitimate loss I know rousey wont win the belt again unless she gets lucky and beats kaufmann again but that's a maybe type of thing holms will probably win the belt b4 rousey again also legitame rematches in the ufcs if ud watch ufc and know what it was about unstead of paper fighting youd realize rematches are given to dominant champion who had belts for years another shot(upset fights) Sarah didn't have the belt so she shouldn't get the rematch |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jan 5, 2014 1:14:36 GMT -5
If Rousey was in a title fight and a doctor stoppage occured within 30 secs of the fight starting, like what happened in the Carano/D'Alelio fight at 190, then absolutely there'd be a rematch. I think you're arguing for the sake of arguing here bro. I know you don't like me, or D'Alelio for that, but I think you're allowing that to cloud too much of your thinking to actually see what's happening with this and how it will help everyone. I know rousey wont win the belt again unless she gets lucky and beats kaufmann again but that's a maybe type of thing holms will probably win the belt b4 rousey again also legitame rematches in the ufcs if ud watch ufc and know what it was about unstead of paper fighting youd realize rematches are given to dominant champion who had belts for years another shot(upset fights) Sarah didn't have the belt so she shouldn't get the rematch You've already shown in the past that you wouldn't do that, Cannon. You threw a fit and quit over not getting a rematch for Machida once already. So you can't really make that statement with any validity, sorry to say, but it's true. And if you look at history, rematches have also been given when there was doubt cast in the fight that the winner was not, in fact, the true winner. I also think you underestimate your Rousey a little bit still. While you may have went a little too nuts in maxing out certain stats too quickly, and despite my own personal feelings about that dirty, disgusting, brutal, bottom-feeding, trash bag ho... lol  You've still actually built her into a legitimate threat in the ManMMA Women's division, just as I have with Sarah, and that's not easy. But I have no reason to think that Sarah's not going to win another tournament, or even the title for that matter, any time soon, she will. Nor do I have any reason to think Rousey won't become champion again any time soon (other than that she's a grade-A cunt lol), cuz she probably will be champ again sooner rather than later; much to my chagrin, of course. B-| lol  |
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Post by xx - Team GAP on Jan 5, 2014 2:29:48 GMT -5
[quote author=" xx - Camp Cannon" source="/post/39081/thread"no rematches this isn't ufc styled its bellator tourney styled....as she not the number one contender[/quote] eye cuts happen in mma/boxing... but when there is no fight then how can someones eye be cut.. 30 seconds is not a fight. Yes she is number one contender she won the number 1 contender tourney plus beating rousey and cyborg to earn her spot. as i said in a different thread.. when controversial matches happen.. what do they do in mma? REMATCH it so there is a legit winner.. I don't recognize ANY woman as champion right now as neither won without controversy.. so it is fair.. granted phoenix announcing it does not sound fair but who's fighters are involved? both of the people in charge. Thus I make myself official impartial argument judge when it comes to arguments between Sandmen and Phoenix when something needs to be done and neither can agree. In this case I say give Kruzer his rematch.. if everyone says he is gonna lose anyways then what does it matter? It is fair. Sandmen as a competitor has no problem with it... settle an arguement with a fight. Lets have some fun instead of bitching about it.. BUT official rules about rematches must be clearly stated in the rules of the site. |
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Jan 5, 2014 10:53:38 GMT -5
no id take the fight as a loss and would move on a cuts a legitimate loss I know rousey wont win the belt again unless she gets lucky and beats kaufmann again but that's a maybe type of thing holms will probably win the belt b4 rousey again also legitame rematches in the ufcs if ud watch ufc and know what it was about unstead of paper fighting youd realize rematches are given to dominant champion who had belts for years another shot(upset fights) Sarah didn't have the belt so she shouldn't get the rematch You've already shown in the past that you wouldn't do that, Cannon. You threw a fit and quit over not getting a rematch for Machida once already. So you can't really make that statement with any validity, sorry to say, but it's true. And if you look at history, rematches have also been given when there was doubt cast in the fight that the winner was not, in fact, the true winner. I also think you underestimate your Rousey a little bit still. While you may have went a little too nuts in maxing out certain stats too quickly, and despite my own personal feelings about that dirty, disgusting, brutal, bottom-feeding, trash bag ho... lol You've still actually built her into a legitimate threat in the ManMMA Women's division, just as I have with Sarah, and that's not easy. But I have no reason to think that Sarah's not going to win another tournament, or even the title for that matter, any time soon, she will. Nor do I have any reason to think Rousey won't become champion again any time soon (other than that she's a grade-A cunt lol), cuz she probably will be champ again sooner rather than later; much to my chagrin, of course. B-| lol actually it was lesnar/JDS not Machida JDS.. was a title match and there was no rematch so why should u get one other than you think your going to win the belt which you wont.also who gave you the power to decide you get a rematch don't abuse your powers bro if it was me or anyone else there would be no rematch so go fuck yourself and your fucking rematch its not happening |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jan 5, 2014 14:10:49 GMT -5
You've already shown in the past that you wouldn't do that, Cannon. You threw a fit and quit over not getting a rematch for Machida once already. So you can't really make that statement with any validity, sorry to say, but it's true. And if you look at history, rematches have also been given when there was doubt cast in the fight that the winner was not, in fact, the true winner. I also think you underestimate your Rousey a little bit still. While you may have went a little too nuts in maxing out certain stats too quickly, and despite my own personal feelings about that dirty, disgusting, brutal, bottom-feeding, trash bag ho... lol You've still actually built her into a legitimate threat in the ManMMA Women's division, just as I have with Sarah, and that's not easy. But I have no reason to think that Sarah's not going to win another tournament, or even the title for that matter, any time soon, she will. Nor do I have any reason to think Rousey won't become champion again any time soon (other than that she's a grade-A cunt lol), cuz she probably will be champ again sooner rather than later; much to my chagrin, of course. B-| lol actually it was lesnar/JDS not Machida JDS.. was a title match and there was no rematch so why should u get one other than you think your going to win the belt which you wont.also who gave you the power to decide you get a rematch don't abuse your powers bro if it was me or anyone else there would be no rematch so go fuck yourself and your fucking rematch its not happening You're not looking at the broader picture here man; you're too focused on the fact that it's my fighter involved and not looking at how this protects all fighters in championship fights, both champion & challenger. It's not even a matter of whether I think Sarah will win the title or not either, cuz I honestly don't know. All I know for sure is this: a fighter in this league earned a title shot and basically didn't get their title shot cuz there was effectively no fight due to a doctor stoppage in under 30secs. That's it. Honestly, the fact that it's my fighter is irrelevant to me at this point. It really could've been Rousey or anyone else that this happened to and I'd feel the same way about it because of the nature in which this particular fight went down and we really got no winner out of it, just 28 secs of nothing from either fighter culminating in a doctor stoppage. It's wrong. For anyone, it's wrong. It'd even be wrong if it was the other way around and the stoppage was in Sarah's favor and this happened to Carano. And sure, I'd hate it, cuz I've worked so hard on The Monster to get her to this point, but if it were the other way around, I'd be granting Carano the rematch too because I wouldn't want to hold the title based on a farce. This isn't a one way street here Cannon. I did think about all this before I announced it and I knew there'd be folks like you thinking it was an abuse of power due to my fighter being involved, but the reality is this: all of our fighters that we work so hard on and upgrade deserve fair shots when the title is on the line and they reach that level; champions included. We, as GMs, deserve to see our fighters actually fight in those fights, win or lose, we've earned it by taking the time to get them to that level. It doesn't to me whether your staff or just a regular member, all I really see are the fighters and they all deserve their due when they earn their title, just to have it flushed away, in under 30secs, by a clearly dubious stoppage. This isn't just for me Cannon; it is for everyone. I really do wish you could see past our silly little feud to see that, but if that's not possible for you, I can't force you. This is still happening regardless. |
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Post by xx - The Underdog Regime on Jan 5, 2014 14:41:59 GMT -5
no id take the fight as a loss and would move on a cuts a legitimate loss I know rousey wont win the belt again unless she gets lucky and beats kaufmann again but that's a maybe type of thing holms will probably win the belt b4 rousey again also legitame rematches in the ufcs if ud watch ufc and know what it was about unstead of paper fighting youd realize rematches are given to dominant champion who had belts for years another shot(upset fights) Sarah didn't have the belt so she shouldn't get the rematch You've already shown in the past that you wouldn't do that, Cannon. You threw a fit and quit over not getting a rematch for Machida once already. So you can't really make that statement with any validity, sorry to say, but it's true. And if you look at history, rematches have also been given when there was doubt cast in the fight that the winner was not, in fact, the true winner. I also think you underestimate your Rousey a little bit still. While you may have went a little too nuts in maxing out certain stats too quickly, and despite my own personal feelings about that dirty, disgusting, brutal, bottom-feeding, trash bag ho... lol You've still actually built her into a legitimate threat in the ManMMA Women's division, just as I have with Sarah, and that's not easy. But I have no reason to think that Sarah's not going to win another tournament, or even the title for that matter, any time soon, she will. Nor do I have any reason to think Rousey won't become champion again any time soon (other than that she's a grade-A cunt lol), cuz she probably will be champ again sooner rather than later; much to my chagrin, of course. B-| lol  |
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Jan 5, 2014 17:07:47 GMT -5
actually it was lesnar/JDS not Machida JDS.. was a title match and there was no rematch so why should u get one other than you think your going to win the belt which you wont.also who gave you the power to decide you get a rematch don't abuse your powers bro if it was me or anyone else there would be no rematch so go fuck yourself and your fucking rematch its not happening You're not looking at the broader picture here man; you're too focused on the fact that it's my fighter involved and not looking at how this protects all fighters in championship fights, both champion & challenger. It's not even a matter of whether I think Sarah will win the title or not either, cuz I honestly don't know. All I know for sure is this: a fighter in this league earned a title shot and basically didn't get their title shot cuz there was effectively no fight due to a doctor stoppage in under 30secs. That's it. Honestly, the fact that it's my fighter is irrelevant to me at this point. It really could've been Rousey or anyone else that this happened to and I'd feel the same way about it because of the nature in which this particular fight went down and we really got no winner out of it, just 28 secs of nothing from either fighter culminating in a doctor stoppage. It's wrong. For anyone, it's wrong. It'd even be wrong if it was the other way around and the stoppage was in Sarah's favor and this happened to Carano. And sure, I'd hate it, cuz I've worked so hard on The Monster to get her to this point, but if it were the other way around, I'd be granting Carano the rematch too because I wouldn't want to hold the title based on a farce. This isn't a one way street here Cannon. I did think about all this before I announced it and I knew there'd be folks like you thinking it was an abuse of power due to my fighter being involved, but the reality is this: all of our fighters that we work so hard on and upgrade deserve fair shots when the title is on the line and they reach that level; champions included. We, as GMs, deserve to see our fighters actually fight in those fights, win or lose, we've earned it by taking the time to get them to that level. It doesn't to me whether your staff or just a regular member, all I really see are the fighters and they all deserve their due when they earn their title, just to have it flushed away, in under 30secs, by a clearly dubious stoppage. This isn't just for me Cannon; it is for everyone. I really do wish you could see past our silly little feud to see that, but if that's not possible for you, I can't force you. This is still happening regardless. fight the number one conterder for her spot then and get that team to agree to the fight this has nothing to do with a feud there really shouldn't be a rermatch and your the only one ever going to see the rematch so I still say nope its not happenening also your not the simmer so its really not your decision either thnxs for coming out tho |
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Post by Ferocity on Jan 5, 2014 17:43:43 GMT -5
no it didn't. Following the rules as they exist needed to happen for fairness. I have to disagree a bit Ferocity. Things need to evolve and change, even within an existing and decent structure, to continue progressive growth and improvement. We didn't always have the "infinite round" rule and we had championship fights ended in draws at the end of 5 rounds; which was something we didn't want, so it was changed. This is really no different than that. Ok first, I haven't read past this message yet, but wanted to respond as I saw items that I wanted to comment on. Things need to evolve and change. Yep. Change the rule. But you can't back track. We didn't always have the infitinite round rule. check. We didn't go back and re-fight the draws when we changed the rules. You are purposing to change the rules and then back track. You can and should change the rules FOR THE FUTURE. |
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Post by Ferocity on Jan 5, 2014 17:46:31 GMT -5
[ [/quote]like it or not its fair and earn another shot [/quote]
Cannon and I agree rarely. But well said Cannon. Well said.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jan 5, 2014 19:35:27 GMT -5
You've already shown in the past that you wouldn't do that, Cannon. You threw a fit and quit over not getting a rematch for Machida once already. So you can't really make that statement with any validity, sorry to say, but it's true. And if you look at history, rematches have also been given when there was doubt cast in the fight that the winner was not, in fact, the true winner. I also think you underestimate your Rousey a little bit still. While you may have went a little too nuts in maxing out certain stats too quickly, and despite my own personal feelings about that dirty, disgusting, brutal, bottom-feeding, trash bag ho... lol You've still actually built her into a legitimate threat in the ManMMA Women's division, just as I have with Sarah, and that's not easy. But I have no reason to think that Sarah's not going to win another tournament, or even the title for that matter, any time soon, she will. Nor do I have any reason to think Rousey won't become champion again any time soon (other than that she's a grade-A cunt lol), cuz she probably will be champ again sooner rather than later; much to my chagrin, of course. B-| lol I figured that you'd appreciate that one Dogs... lol |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Jan 6, 2014 6:20:44 GMT -5
While there were a lot of words used in which Kruze tried to say basically one thing in this thread: Summarizing Kruze in 15 words or less:"Fight sucked, ended wrong, need rematch, built good fighters, rematches are good. Fuck the haters.[/b] But the best part of this entire thread was missed, and is genius, and will forever win. To everyone opposed:  It's already been implimented, enough crying already. I'm stopping it early so nothing bad happens on this thread. He tried to stop all of you from engaging. Everything is already set in stone. BTW, was this thread what you were doing when you missed the entire league-wide discussion on EA? I'm assuming it is. Good call bro. |
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Post by xx - The Underdog Regime on Jan 6, 2014 8:50:48 GMT -5
While there were a lot of words used in which Kruze tried to say basically one thing in this thread: Summarizing Kruze in 15 words or less:"Fight sucked, ended wrong, need rematch, built good fighters, rematches are good. Fuck the haters. But the best part of this entire thread was missed, and is genius, and will forever win. To everyone opposed: It's already been implimented, enough crying already. I'm stopping it early so nothing bad happens on this thread. He tried to stop all of you from engaging. Everything is already set in stone. BTW, was this thread what you were doing when you missed the entire league-wide discussion on EA? I'm assuming it is. Good call bro. YOU LOVE ME. YOU REALLY, REALLY LOVE ME! |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jan 6, 2014 15:26:23 GMT -5
While there were a lot of words used in which Kruze tried to say basically one thing in this thread: Summarizing Kruze in 15 words or less:"Fight sucked, ended wrong, need rematch, built good fighters, rematches are good. Fuck the haters. [/b] But the best part of this entire thread was missed, and is genius, and will forever win.To everyone opposed: It's already been implimented, enough crying already. I'm stopping it early so nothing bad happens on this thread. He tried to stop all of you from engaging. Everything is already set in stone.[/quote] This part I actually wholeheartedly agree with. lol |
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You've still actually built her into a legitimate threat in the ManMMA Women's division, just as I have with Sarah, and that's not easy. But I have no reason to think that Sarah's not going to win another tournament, or even the title for that matter, any time soon, she will. Nor do I have any reason to think Rousey won't become champion again any time soon (other than that she's a grade-A cunt 
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