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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Feb 6, 2014 6:34:15 GMT -5
Phoenix FC +1 7650 posts - No longer staff +1 7700 posts= 4 total
Dominick Cruz+3 Submissions +1 Strength You are at 100 posts per point until the season is over. No, I'm not buddy boy... the whole purpose of me having the 100 posts was cuz folks were worried due to simming the ML, that didn't happen and doesn't look like it will be happening any time soon either. And after your recent acts of douche-baggery with poll and shit, don't even try and pull this power trip crap on me now. You got you bullshit put through by 1 vote, be satisfied with that and do what you claim to do best... and move on instead of creating another shit storm. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Feb 6, 2014 8:22:43 GMT -5
3 (a member asked to change his vote, but I had already locked the poll). But this has nothing to do with anything else. You are at 100 posts per point until the end of the season (after Grand Prix). You chose to abandon your staff duties, you were not fired from them. 100 posts per point until the end of season. Then, your situation will be re-assessed. You were informed this pretty much all season. That is how it is.
Period.
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Post by xx - Team GAP on Feb 6, 2014 9:29:47 GMT -5
the 100 posts a point untill season is over isn't that bad since the season is almost over. If your really want to abuse the system you could just get yourself 1 post away from where you would normally get your points and sit there till next season. then 1 post and you get a point. then your back on track. (sorry sandmen for telling him how to abuse the system.)
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Post by The Sandmen on Feb 6, 2014 12:36:41 GMT -5
I would have a lot of fun if Kruze was stuck at a 49 and unable to reply to me for several days simply to cheat the system for 1 more point. It would be totally worth it.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Feb 6, 2014 16:21:26 GMT -5
3 (a member asked to change his vote, but I had already locked the poll). But this has nothing to do with anything else. You are at 100 posts per point until the end of the season (after Grand Prix). You chose to abandon your staff duties, you were not fired from them. 100 posts per point until the end of season. Then, your situation will be re-assessed. You were informed this pretty much all season. That is how it is. Period. Dude, you've literally done enough to me already here and had your little fun with that fucking poll to force that senario down my throat when I'd already declined that senario and was against it from the beginning. When does it end dude? You keep saying you want less conflict around here and have folks asking to stop the arguments, but you sure don't avoid the arguments at all, you go and create one when you needn't at all. There'll be no re-assessment needed Sandman. After your little stunt with the poll, that was just the nail in the coffin bro. I WILL NOT be working with you or even, as you've always seen it, FOR you ever again. You can't quit or abandon something you never really felt a part of in the first place Sandman. I offered to take care of the "duties" end of it when we were on the phone the other day and you essentially told me it wasn't needed nor did you restore even the "Helper" access to even facilitate that. Not to mention, the way you treated me when I was allegedly "staff" was a breach of our contract as well. There was no one in the right in this entire situation, we've both acted poorly throughout this whole charade and it's honestly best for everyone to just cut where it's ended, save on these petty squabbles and arguments and move on. It's not like I'm asking for the retro point back here either. I could, but that would be douchey, even for me... Those points are long gone. Let's just end the fighting now with this and restore my 50 posts and be done with this for good bro. |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Feb 6, 2014 17:12:28 GMT -5
Why is it that when you really want something, all you do is tell the other person how terrible of a person they are, and then at the end say, in a nicely summed up way, "so now that you know how nice I am and how terrible you are, you just go ahead and do what I want and we can move past this."
I mean, especially when were talking about maybe a point extra here that you could earn if you commented absolutely everywhere for the next few days. I just don't get it man.
And I know you feel you deserve it as you did a lot of work for this site... but you were also awarded points/given them directly form Sandman's point-earnings at one point for doing those things.
I get that you're going to tear this post apart and whatnot, but all I'm really telling you is that you might want to step back on HOW you address things with people. Telling them how great you are and they are shit doesn't work. I'm not being a dick when I'm writing that, I'm literally just making an observation. I think that a LOT of things that happen on here that result in arguments stems almost immediately from just the way you start to address a given issue/topic.
I've done a lot on how I read things, and give people the benefit of doubt in a lot of social circumstances because I had this weird anxiety thing and just assumed everyone hated me. But if you really listen to someone and try and pry for information in a non-judgmental fashion, you'd probably learn a lot without having to create a fight over it. You'd also gain trust from people by not judging them over something simply by asking to understand their point.
All I have seen you do is look at something, scream at it, tell it it's stupid, we learn how much more awesome you became from the last time you screamed at something to now, and then tell it to do what you want so everything is cool again.
If life were like that, then kids would get everything they wanted at the grocery store when they flail on the floor.
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Post by The Sandmen on Feb 6, 2014 21:31:00 GMT -5
I am saving the squabbles, Phoenix. 100 posts until the season is over. There is no argument or bickering or squabble. That is how it was presented to you all season, every time you threatened to quit. 100 posts per point until the season is over, and that is that. Resolved, done, finalized.
Also, you need to PM me about ML. If you are done with that, it's probably done for good. Let me know.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Feb 7, 2014 9:19:45 GMT -5
And I know you feel you deserve it as you did a lot of work for this site... but you were also awarded points/given them directly form Sandman's point-earnings at one point for doing those things. Some of what you said there was valid, but I'm not going to quote it all. lol But this part of it that I did quote here is inaccurate. I was never given points directly out of Sandman's point-earnings. They were given from the same place predictor points, gift points, etc. come from; from the league. I'm not going to tear this thread apart nor am I screaming about it; I'm totally calm here. I said my piece and gave valid reasons why it should be lifted now so we can all just move on. I realize that you think it's me saying how bad Sandman is and how great I am, but that couldn't be further from the truth... we've both been awful and this all needs to end and start fresh. He seems to think there needs to be some penance more than what he's already created by doing that ridiculous poll. Enough is enough. I'm no longer staff and I shouldn't be subject to the 100 posts as of the point I wasn't anymore, much like it was for you when you dropped down to 50 posts yourself. There was none of this "waiting til the end of the season" for you when you dropped to 50 posts AND you were still simming the ML at that point why should it be any different for anyone else? Because it's me? Because I used to get paid for jobs I did for the site before I became "staff"? Because Justin says so? No. It should be no different for anyone else. This is honestly just pure discrimination and just a continuation of shit that we all want eliminated from the site. |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Feb 7, 2014 9:23:14 GMT -5
I am saving the squabbles, Phoenix. 100 posts until the season is over. There is no argument or bickering or squabble. That is how it was presented to you all season, every time you threatened to quit. 100 posts per point until the season is over, and that is that. Resolved, done, finalized. Also, you need to PM me about ML. If you are done with that, it's probably done for good. Let me know. 'm not letting this go Sandman... this is complete bullshit. It was when you suggested it and it still is now. You can't hold a different set of rules specifically for me when you've already given Rocketmen special treatment in this regard. I will not stand for it. Period. |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Feb 7, 2014 10:08:41 GMT -5
'm not letting this go Sandman... this is complete bullshit. It was when you suggested it and it still is now. You can't hold a different set of rules specifically for me when you've already given Rocketmen special treatment in this regard. I will not stand for it. Period. So... if I'm correct. You went from 50 posts per point, PLUS additional points were awarded for you doing special tasks like making team banners, and updating the fight history thread (which I also did for a bit and never received any special points). Then you became staff, and eventually were upped to 75 posts per point much later into it, still getting the opportunity to write "updated" as your contribution to many of those tasks. When I simmed ML, I was immediately pushed up to 100 posts per point. When I stopped ML, I didn't return to 50 until the end of season as well, but being that I couldn't care to be here, it mattered not. So, I did some fun tasks on this site for Sandman, and didn't get any special points. I simmed ML and went immediately to 100 posts per point, NOT 75. You got special points, and only skipped up to 75 posts per point until going an additional 25 when you started to sim ML as simming for ML immediately provides roughly 13 additional posts just for simming. So, 100 posts per point - 13 posts are for simming, 87 posts per point. Writing "updated" anywhere you've updated anything, could amount to roughly 3 to 5 daily. + the posts you gained for any additional work, such as the fight history and whatnots that required you to make posts. That could all amount to 5 to 10 additional posts daily JUST from doing regular maintenance. That would put your posts-per-point at (on the very lowest side) around 75 posts per point outside of regular tasks. And I know you feel you deserve it as you did a lot of work for this site... but you were also awarded points/given them directly form Sandman's point-earnings at one point for doing those things. I was never given points directly out of Sandman's point-earnings. They were given from the same place predictor points, gift points, etc. come from; from the league. So, you went from getting 1 point per 75 posts PLUS special bonus points that apparently were created out of thin air to 100 posts per point - roughly 25 just from tasks, and lost your bonus points, but gained an additional 13 free posts for a point. I went from 50 posts per point and still helping here and there, to 100 posts per point when I simmed the ML division, with 13 posts dedicated to sims, so 87 posts per point, and NEVER received a special point unless the entire rest of the league was given freebies. AND in those freebies, I've always earned far fewer than 90% of the members. And when I dropped ML, I had to wait until it switched over to a new season to go back to 50 posts. I'm missing the part where I get special treatment? This is more "I'm awesome and everyone else is shit and treats me like shit so give me more of what I want." How long did you do stuff to get those points? Maybe two or three seasons? Gaining what, let's say 5 to upwards of 10 free points? Maybe more? To a regular member, that's 500 additional posts they would have to commit. You just had to play in photoshop and copy and paste shit. You'll never be satisfied, and you're blinded by your own ignorance. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Feb 7, 2014 14:43:15 GMT -5
It should be no different for anyone else. It's not. You aren't special This would be the case regardless, just as it is now. Again, this is finalized, so whether you want to let it go or not, you are only hurting yourself by fighting about old, resolved stuff, and continuing to stir the pot. More importantly, where do you want your 3 points, because your upgrade is not processed because of the trying to give yourself a free point thing, and I am simming this later today probably. |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Feb 7, 2014 17:17:11 GMT -5
Nothing new, kiddo. Ya just didn't bother reading the rules in the past, nor the update that was mass-PMed to everyone 2 weeks ago. WHatever excuses you want to hide behind though to try to weasel your way into a title (or a fake-claim thereto). No ones making excuses for anything here but you bro. It doesn't really matter how long ago you "mass-PMed" everyone, the fact still remains it wasn't even proposed as an option to the league, explained properly, nor was it put to a poll, as you've often told me we needed league consensus for rule changes, etc. and that was always "what's best for the league". So using the excuse "I mass-PMed everyone 2 weeks ago" really doesn't hold any water here. There was no poll because no change was made. All that happened was the Challenge board was created to make challenging members easier. We always had challenges, just not a board. I posted guidelines so people knew what they could do - the same guidelines we have always had. ]Dude, this entire poll was a fight and a giant troll. Trying to mask this by saying it's something "for the site" isn't polite, that's just being a douche bag and completely selfish on your part I want, no, wait, I NEED to see that awesomeness that would be all four of them fighting on that card, and to have such a fresh fight for the championship between those two is insanely kick ass. I have another fighter who has a shot at a belt?? Im in. ]Dude, this entire poll was a fight and a giant troll. Trying to mask this by saying it's something "for the site" isn't polite, that's just being a douche bag and completely selfish on your part Dude, you've literally done enough to me already here and had your little fun with that fucking poll to force that senario down my throat when I'd already declined that senario and was against it from the beginning. Nothing new, kiddo. Ya just didn't bother reading the rules in the past, nor the update that was mass-PMed to everyone 2 weeks ago. WHatever excuses you want to hide behind though to try to weasel your way into a title (or a fake-claim thereto). No ones making excuses for anything here but you bro. It doesn't really matter how long ago you "mass-PMed" everyone, the fact still remains it wasn't even proposed as an option to the league, explained properly, nor was it put to a poll, as you've often told me we needed league consensus for rule changes, etc. and that was always "what's best for the league". So using the excuse "I mass-PMed everyone 2 weeks ago" really doesn't hold any water here. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2014 17:26:02 GMT -5
Did I say you were allowed to quote me??
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Feb 7, 2014 18:02:04 GMT -5
It should be no different for anyone else. It's not. You aren't special This would be the case regardless, just as it is now. Again, this is finalized, so whether you want to let it go or not, you are only hurting yourself by fighting about old, resolved stuff, and continuing to stir the pot. More importantly, where do you want your 3 points, because your upgrade is not processed because of the trying to give yourself a free point thing, and I am simming this later today probably. I did not try to give myself a free point at all. I am no longer staff, I am just a member and plain members receive 1 point for 50 posts. It's in the rules... Not just "well, you can stay 100 til the end of the season, because 'I said so'." You're still under this impression that I deserve some sort of penalty for "quitting" a position that I never really held from pretty much the point it was offered and I accepted because I was undermined and "overruled" by you at nearly every turn... and if that didn't work, you'd say "put it to a poll" knowing full well that any poll on this site that had to do with hindering me in any form would be voted for and you used it; that where the undermining stems from. What I accepted and what we both agreed to in this deal was that it was full partnership in the site; not 90/10, 70/30 or 60/40... FULL partnership. But during my entire tenure as "staff", you would continually criticize and berate me for any reason at all, whether it was task related or not, or my conduct in dealing with folks on the site, then claim that I wasn't putting the site first because it wasn't the way you would do it which ended up being the entire theme. It was only whenever that I'd make mention that I didn't feel appreciated at all for the things that I did do, that you would claim your appreciation, but then in your next breath it was right back to the berating, criticism and even went into the trolling right along side RocketMen and such. It made your appreciation claims absolutely empty because it just seemed like it made you feel like you got a pass for saying "Thank You" so you could just continue on treating me like shit then allow, and even encourage, others to do the same. But when I would defend myself and say something, your response was "you're not acting like staff" and again it was because it wasn't how you did things, so it was "wrong"; and this was after I was already supposedly "staff" when I told you point blank that I wasn't you, I wasn't going to do thing s like you because I was never going to be you. You said accepted that, but never once put that into practice. So no sir... Nothing here has been finalized or "resolved" because "Because I said so." is NOT a resolution Justin, it's just an order. But also because, as I said previosly, it states clearly our the rules that non-staff members of this site receive 1 point for every 50 posts, period. There's no gray area there dude, as much as you'd love for there to be one. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Feb 7, 2014 18:13:31 GMT -5
You were not berated, in fact I have about 10 PMs from you calling me all kinds of names just because I asked you to update a thread. I can post them publicly if you want.
As for your point claim issue, you were staff this season, you are at 100 posts per point this season. Simple. That doesn't change just because you stopped doing your duties man. We discussed that at length before.
Resolved.
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Have 9 points in celebration of this monumental achievement!