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Post by xx - Team GAP on Feb 25, 2014 2:56:57 GMT -5
AT THAT POINT, that SPECIFIC ISSUE is resolved. If you think it is still a problem THAT IS A NEW ISSUE AND SHOULD BE BROUGHT UP IN A NEW THREAD. For me, that is where the cut-off is. After #5. If you want something that is in place changed, start again at number 1 IN A NEW THREAD. Propose a change. Don't continue arguing about a change that was agreed to/decided upon. That is where we get no where. If we do it this way... Then we will have 20 threads about the same thing. Whereas I think it is better to have 1 thread where we all discuss that issue till it is resolved. Making everyone feel that the discussion is done. Lets remember we are not always gonna like the resolution.. and we must all give and take. This also applies to Sandmen. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Feb 25, 2014 3:23:20 GMT -5
Again, you and Kruze man.
Instead of arguing about this, why aren't you:
1) creating a poll for the LAST suggestion you wanted implimented (the rematch clause from 9 months ago that I said to poll)
2) creating a new thread/suggestion to explain or poll a NEW solution to whatever problem you are having now?
Why aren't you doing either of those two things?
See, if I waited on you for this stuff, if this is what you expect me to wait for in order to attain "resolution", I am unwilling to do that. There is no reason to NOT do either of those 2 things, other than to just argue for the sake of arguing. If you want rematches, you need to do something about it. If you think there is something wrong with the current post point system, propose an alternative.
Just do SOMETHING. What you are doing now is not SOMETHING for those issues you care about. That is where my problem lies. If feels like you and Kruze just find something to argue then argue it. But when that gets boring, you move to the next one. If you cared about rematches, you would have polled it by now. You did not. If you cared about the post-point thing, you would have polled it by now. If you cared about "overruling my dictatorship", you would have come up with an alternative, other then "let us talk it out literally forever while you wait to sim the site".
I have taken your suggestion of letting people talk about things forever into account for 10 seasons. This is where it has gotten us. Maybe Rocketmen is right, and we need to try something else, because clearly you are not happy, and other members have never been happy.
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Post by xx - Team GAP on Feb 25, 2014 4:01:28 GMT -5
perhaps you should read all of my current posts.. because in them i have made suggestions to end problems. Perhaps if you didn't want to just argue then you would read people's suggestion and also work on resolving these issues. "I have taken your suggestion of letting people talk about things forever into account for 10 seasons. This is where it has gotten us. Maybe Rocketmen is right, and we need to try something else, because clearly you are not happy, and other members have never been happy." by saying this you say I am responcible for everyone being unhappy.. this is just not true.. i have been trying to help this site.
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Post by The Sandmen on Feb 25, 2014 4:35:32 GMT -5
This thread is not a suggestion box. It's a thread about THIS topic. The topic of locking threads, and there is a poll. Not much really needs to be explained beyond "Yes, lock them" or "No, don't". The poll will decide it.
You should still post your suggestions/polls about the issues you had before though. This thread is not the place, but a new suggestion would be appropriate.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Feb 25, 2014 7:03:19 GMT -5
This thread is not a suggestion box. It's a thread about THIS topic. The topic of locking threads, and there is a poll. Not much really needs to be explained beyond "Yes, lock them" or "No, don't". The poll will decide it. You should still post your suggestions/polls about the issues you had before though. This thread is not the place, but a new suggestion would be appropriate. It's a thread about THIS topic, is it? Is that why you spent a post and a half talking nonsensically about some other topic and telling GAP to post a different poll to deflect and distract from the fact that you can't stay on topic yourself? lol You're as bad as RocketMen FFS :  But see this how you 'resolve' things... distract from the actual issue so that it goes in your favor because you some how make it seem like folks like myself and GAP aren't staying on topic when the truth is, it's you and RocketMen that are steering the topic off course. Perhaps the locking of threads is more a preventative measure to save the site from yourselves than it is to prevent my "arguments" cuz let's face facts here, you're both gonna run out of excuses sooner or later and folks are actually gonna start seeing through your elementary schoolyard tactics. That's inevitable. Might as well prolong that as long as possible, right? Cuz heaven forbid if anyone else actually started seeing exactly what I'm seeing going on around here... : lol |
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Post by Ferocity on Feb 25, 2014 8:05:36 GMT -5
I have a feeling that Ferocity gets it, but also is yelling at everyone for arguing. At the same time, the REAL issue this poll is presenting is the festering problem. There's a difference between a two-way conversation and one-way just arguing for the sake of arguing. That is the real problem. The real "interesting" content gets buried by that as well. I don't think the poll was presented properly at all. Basically, the poll says saying no to locking threads means that you like festering arguments. That is inaccurate. Locking threads is NOT the solution. Ignoring trolling and nonsense is. Locking the threads will move the festering, they can fester faster than you can lock threads. You have seen that ignoring works- you have proof in several threads where the conversation was 'changed' despite several attempts of the trolls to make it back into an argument, and yet those of you who claim to hate the argument are failing to use this tactic. I have proof of the above, but I have to get to work- I will try and check tonight. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Feb 25, 2014 17:24:55 GMT -5
Ignoring trolling and nonsense is. I would invite you to take over administrating this site for a week, including taking a gander at my inbox. I have 3 different people yelling at me for ignoring them and their "nonsense". Your "solution" is a wonderful solution IN THEORY for the people that have that option. But some of us do not, as it is our job to listen to complaints, and mediate "nonsense". All I am asking here is those complaints be brought forth through the appropriate channels. I, too, am opposed to locking, but I do not see the harm in shutting down the inappropriate channels to keep people on track with the appropriate ones. |
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Post by The West Coast Knockouts on Feb 25, 2014 19:20:53 GMT -5
I have no problem with resolved issues being locked. If your pissed off about it let us know in the trash talk section not in every single thread that's posted.
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Post by xx - Team GAP on Feb 26, 2014 3:39:58 GMT -5
I have no problem with resolved issues being locked. If your pissed off about it let us know in the trash talk section not in every single thread that's posted. If people are pissed off about something then the issue isn't truly "resolved" is it? I also agree with ferocity's last post. If you want the bickering to stop... then stop creating it(That goes for everyone!). Allow people to vent their frustrations in a constructive way. (so nobody should be name calling) and i bet you'll see the arguements stop. allow people to have their say.. and discuss it like mature people and then move on, once a decision is made.. (not forcing the issue to stop). |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Feb 26, 2014 6:15:18 GMT -5
I have no problem with resolved issues being locked. If your pissed off about it let us know in the trash talk section not in every single thread that's posted. If people are pissed off about something then the issue isn't truly "resolved" is it? Tell that to the general public when they vote in a politician who loses the election. |
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Post by The West Coast Knockouts on Feb 26, 2014 8:47:03 GMT -5
If people are pissed off about something then the issue isn't truly "resolved" is it? Tell that to the general public when they vote in a politician who loses the election. |
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Post by xx - Team GAP on Feb 27, 2014 2:23:29 GMT -5
If people are pissed off about something then the issue isn't truly "resolved" is it? Tell that to the general public when they vote in a politician who loses the election. I do |
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But see this how you 'resolve' things... distract from the actual issue so that it goes in your favor because you some how make it seem like folks like myself and GAP aren't staying on topic when the truth is, it's you and RocketMen that are steering the topic off course. 
