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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 1, 2014 15:41:11 GMT -5
 April 1, 2014 Blue Cross Arena (Rochester, New York)Event ResultsHeavyweight Bout
Brock Lesnar (33-23) vs. Alistair Overeem (39-23)Winner is Alistair Overeem by KO (GnP) at 2:01 Round 1 Heavyweight Bout
Tim Sylvia (16-16) vs. Pedro Rizzo (22-23)Winner is Tim Sylvia by TKO (Punches) at 1:00 Round 4 Heavyweight Bout
Josh Barnett (13-23) vs. Houston Alexander (21-24)Winner is Houston Alexander by TKO (Punches) at 0:59 Round 4 Middleweight Bout
Matt Serra (5-14) vs. Vitor Belfort (19-25)Winner is Vitor Belfort by TKO (Punches & Damage) at 3:21 Round 2 Middleweight Bout
Patrick Cote (10-11) vs. Nick Diaz (20-25)Winner is Nick Diaz by KO (Punches) at 0:54 Round 1 Catchweight Bout
Rich Franklin (28-21) vs. Jose Aldo (31-22)Winner is Rich Franklin by KO (High kick) at 1:50 Round 1 Lightweight Bout
Dominick Cruz (35-17) vs. Benson Henderson (42-16)Winner is Benson Henderson by TKO (GnP) at 1:21 Round 5 Women's Bout
Sarah D'Alelio (11-13) vs. Erin Toughill (23-22)Winner is Erin Toughill by KO (Uppercut) at 3:29 Round 1 BonusesFight of the Night: Barnett vs. Alexander KO of the Night: Rich Franklin (& Erin Toughill, since there were no submissions) Submission of the Night: No Submissions Winner of Versus: The West Coast Knockouts (6-2)StatisticsAttendance: 12,400 (100%) Buy Rate: 3,606,944 |
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 1, 2014 15:41:16 GMT -5
GAP
5/8
PHX
5/8
ROcketmen
7/8
underdogs
4/8
byron
5/8
cannon
3/8
sandmen
5/8
+1 Rocketmen
Knockouts gets Phoenix's next title fight.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2014 16:32:39 GMT -5
Sucks to be Kruze
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 1, 2014 17:10:17 GMT -5
I just noticed that the heading of this thread makes it look like "Results" is vs. ManMMA. You know, like Pittsburgh vs. Toronto, we have ManMMA vs. Results. hahaha.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 1, 2014 23:18:49 GMT -5
Not really... my point was proved, in convincing fashion no less. Everyone though I was picking on a weaker team, not the case at all. Well done KO's. Congrats.  |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Apr 2, 2014 5:25:23 GMT -5
True, but most don't have a roster of 30.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 2, 2014 10:53:24 GMT -5
True, but most don't have a roster of 30. lol I don't have 30 fighters; 25 right now. But that's just it... having the larger roster was in fact my way to counter the point production I was generating at 50 posts/point. I hope everyone sees that now and not just focusing on the fact that I have 8500+ posts and thinking that I somehow have this uber-powerful team because of it, even though I'm always at the bottom of the standings come GP time. This card clearly showed that I don't, which was the point. I mean seriously, minus Diaz's flash KO on Cote and the upsets of Toughill over D'Alelio & Sylvia over Rizzo, this card went pretty much as I expected it to and shows that I'm actually the one falling behind and not these lower volume posters. |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Apr 2, 2014 10:57:47 GMT -5
I don't think it matters. We all know you could drop 15 moderate fighters for 15 points and build someone huge, so having a giant roster doesn't mean you suck, but it does mean you put yourself at risk of fighters in danger, and as we've seen, you get a few guys on there from neglect.
But regardless, this was a fun event to see, though I feel now that it was somewhat done as a way for Phoenix to suggest he has no advantage from posting a lot, which is fine, but I still disagree with.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 2, 2014 11:17:57 GMT -5
I don't think it matters. We all know you could drop 15 moderate fighters for 15 points and build someone huge, so having a giant roster doesn't mean you suck, but it does mean you put yourself at risk of fighters in danger, and as we've seen, you get a few guys on there from neglect. But regardless, this was a fun event to see, though I feel now that it was somewhat done as a way for Phoenix to suggest he has no advantage from posting a lot, which is fine, but I still disagree with. With a larger roster, it isn't an advantage at all, especially being at 100 posts/point for the better part of 2-3 seasons now. I really don't see how you don't make the correlation there. If I had 12 or 15 fighters like most everyone else, then yah, that would be an advantage if I were at 50 posts/point... but most folks here know by now that I won't be dropping 15 fighters to do what you suggest up there. I like all the fighters I have now and I wanna keep what I have. It's everyone else that seems to have a problem whether it's my roster size, post volume or something trying to find a way to limit everything I do, when the thing is that placing all these limits on me is going to either do one of two things. 1) If I'm able to barely stay afloat, as I have been, then my team suffers and I have less points to spread around to my fighters keeping them weak, which isn't any fun for me either... or 2) I do start losing fighters to FiD, have more points to spread around to my fighters, and next thing you know, my fighters are starting to get better but then you have the lower volume posters screaming bloody murder again and calling for me to be put up to 150 or 200 posts/point. It's a never-ending cycle. I do things to counter act my point production and it's still not enough. I could do what you suggested and drop 10-15 fighters, and folks would still be complaining even if I spread those 10-15 point around to all my remaining fighters and still want to keep me 100 posts/point. When does it end? |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Apr 2, 2014 12:35:22 GMT -5
I'm only saying that by posting a lot, you get a point advantage, or rather had one, and now that your posts-for-points was increased, that's been evened out. Your significant roster size has nothing to do with that, other than the fact that you wanted to have that many fighters on your team. The amount of fighters you manage should not dictate your posts for points count. That's your own decision to have a high roster. That said, I think if you cut it down, you'd have champs like crazy, or at least legit contenders, like me. I built champions by narrowing it down and focussing and it's WAYYY more fun than trying to keep track of who I neglect to focus on individual fighters as I go.  |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 2, 2014 12:56:29 GMT -5
It was even about a season ago, now all these teams are pulling significantly ahead, as this card clearly demonstrated. The decision to have a larger roster was in direct correlation to having higher post volumes and point production I had, but you continue to refuse to acknowledge that, even though I've been saying it since the beginning of all this shit. But if what you're saying is true and "The amount of fighters you manage should not dictate your posts for points count." then so too should my post volume not dictate having the ridiculous 100 posts/point limitation? Because, is it not a choice for these lower volume posters not to post more when they are online?
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Post by The Rocketmen on Apr 2, 2014 14:36:23 GMT -5
I'm saying that you have some good fighters, but might want to consider trimming down the roster so that the points you do earn goes into those better fighters and making them contenders rather than earning points just to keep people off the cut-list for fighters in danger, that's all. If you want to have a larger roster, that's your choice, but you can't blame your fighters performances on your post count if you have nearly 30 fighters.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 2, 2014 19:28:33 GMT -5
I'm saying that you have some good fighters, but might want to consider trimming down the roster so that the points you do earn goes into those better fighters and making them contenders rather than earning points just to keep people off the cut-list for fighters in danger, that's all. If you want to have a larger roster, that's your choice, but you can't blame your fighters performances on your post count if you have nearly 30 fighters.Not on my post count no, but I can blame it on the limitation of having been forced to go to a higher bracket to earn a point when I did everything I could under the sun to counter act my own post volumes because folks were complaining about that, now I'm the one that's fallen behind and they never really fell behind at all. |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Sept 17, 2019 14:18:51 GMT -5
Not a bad fight card in retrospect.
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