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Post by The Rocketmen on Apr 20, 2015 7:11:56 GMT -5
omg... the shittiness is here too!  |
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Post by The Mighty Ducks on Apr 20, 2015 7:53:18 GMT -5
That guy is a lunatic.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 20, 2015 10:52:03 GMT -5
None of what you put forth was needed as this was 1) not about charity or trades Then we've just settled this. The ONLY thing xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club wants is more points, and he can get those by posting more. League doesn't need to get involved, and everyone wins.  What other purpose is there to this other than to single me out when this was never about me at all. You have been vocal about this issue. She was clearly asking if anyone else was also feeling the same way as you. A poll is annonamous, and avoids people yelling at you for having an opinion (Ferocity voiced hers and now you are all pissy with her calling her a troll). This is ananmaous and lets the league vote as a majority to see if there are more people who have a problem with it. Of course the "no" side is going to get the most votes because it's being made to be about me and has made it a popularity contest again on "do you like Kruze?" and not an honest question. This is pretty pointless. lol You think too much of yourself. People don't hate you - they don't give a shit about you one way or another. Since this suggestion came up, the ISSUE has been talked to death. People were unconvinced it was even an issue. You kept saying, "NO LOOK, IT IS! I AM ALWAYS IN LAST PLACE" so people have pointed to your team as to WHY you were always in last place. It's never been about you. People here, and voting here, are not going to vote against you if you are on a side that makes sense. On this issue, it seems most people do not agree. It happens. Take up a new issue, and more people will be on your side. Simple stuff. Nothing is settled.. I mean, how many times do I have to say it before you get it through your thick skull that THIS WAS NEVER ABOUT ME??!! NOT ONCE; NOT EVER!! That's the point. You and everyone else opposed to this has made this an argument solely on "Kruze just wants more points" and it never was. So, of course no one's going to listen to anything further on it because that's the only thing anyone is focused on now. You did that, not me. I suggested this for all teams that end up at the bottom to add value to the first two picks in the draft, for EVERYONE. This is exactly the type of crap I've been talking about when I say you don't fucking listen to anything. Of course no one's going to think it's a viable suggestion when you try and make it about one team when it isn't. |
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Post by The Mighty Ducks on Apr 20, 2015 11:47:27 GMT -5
one more time?
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 20, 2015 13:59:05 GMT -5
THIS WAS NEVER ABOUT ME??!! NOT ONCE; NOT EVER!! I understand...but everyone else is saying it has nothing to do with them either, which is why this poll seems to have been started - asking if other people as well as you have the same problem. If no one else does, even if your desired outcome would obviously benefit them, doesn't that mean they don't want the help? In which case...isn't it just about the team that does want the help? (Real question, so we can keep defining this problem) |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 20, 2015 14:27:29 GMT -5
THIS WAS NEVER ABOUT ME??!! NOT ONCE; NOT EVER!! I understand...but everyone else is saying it has nothing to do with them either, which is why this poll seems to have been started - asking if other people as well as you have the same problem. If no one else does, even if your desired outcome would obviously benefit them, doesn't that mean they don't want the help? In which case...isn't it just about the team that does want the help? (Real question, so we can keep defining this problem) At the current clip my team is going right now, this most certainly is NOT about helping me at all; so again, please stop making it about that. I suggested this to make those two picks more valuable in terms of being able to more significantly upgrade your team should anyone finish in the bottom 2, whether it's through trade or you keep the points yourself. So no... this isn't "just about the team that does want the help". And I mean, honestly... if you wanna go down the road of "doesn't that mean they don't want the help?", there have been more than several things that folks didn't want, the league didn't need and you just shoved down our throats, such as the new Men's cap system, for example... OR, in our case, you go out and "help" me when you weren't asked for help. Didn't that mean I didn't want your help? Yet you went ahead and "helped" me anyways. What's the difference there, really? I'm just sick and tired of anytime I suggest something around here that it's somehow turned into me doing something just for my own benefit, when that's rarely ever the case; it's happened every time, even when I was "staff"... and do you know who's ALWAYS been leading that charge to say I'm only doing things for my benefit? ...YOU! So do I really think you "understand" anything? No, not in the slightest. Cuz if you did, this wouldn't be the debate we always have when I suggest something. Period. |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Apr 20, 2015 14:52:53 GMT -5
PHX's TL;DR: I suggested this to make those two picks more valuable in terms of being able to more significantly upgrade your team should anyone finish in the bottom 2.
So, let's reply to that, currently it's worth, what 2 points? Should we make the number one pick worth 3 points and then call it a day?
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 20, 2015 15:09:08 GMT -5
PHX's TL;DR: I suggested this to make those two picks more valuable in terms of being able to more significantly upgrade your team should anyone finish in the bottom 2. So, let's reply to that, currently it's worth, what 2 points? Should we make the number one pick worth 3 points and then call it a day? 1) Thank you. 2) We still run into the issue of NEED. Most folks don't think any teams missing the GP by 1-2 wins NEED extra points. 3) CUrrently 1st overall pick is worth 2 points, all others are worth 1, and winning the GP is worth 3 points. Making coming dead last (something you have a lot of control over here) worth the same amount as winning the GP (something that requires skill) is a completely different discussion. |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Apr 20, 2015 15:31:28 GMT -5
Fair enough.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 20, 2015 20:58:53 GMT -5
PHX's TL;DR: I suggested this to make those two picks more valuable in terms of being able to more significantly upgrade your team should anyone finish in the bottom 2. So, let's reply to that, currently it's worth, what 2 points? Should we make the number one pick worth 3 points and then call it a day? 1) Thank you. 2) We still run into the issue of NEED. Most folks don't think any teams missing the GP by 1-2 wins NEED extra points. 3) CUrrently 1st overall pick is worth 2 points, all others are worth 1, and winning the GP is worth 3 points. Making coming dead last (something you have a lot of control over here) worth the same amount as winning the GP (something that requires skill) is a completely different discussion. We didn't NEED your BS cap system for the men either, but that was implemented faster than you can say capped. And if you're so worried about the GP being the same amount, bump the GP up to 4, make the 1st overall 3 points and the 2nd overall 2 points. Cuz honestly, if the league is as diverse and unpredictable as you claim it is then it really shouldn't be within anyone's control where they place, should it? As for you The Rocketmen, take your "TL;DR" and stick it up your ass... if you don't wanna read things, or just simply can't, that's fine... but there's no need to be a taunting, sarcastic prick when all we're doing is having a simple discussion. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 20, 2015 22:48:07 GMT -5
He wasn't being taunting, he was helping you. Notice how I actually read and replied to his post? It was a sentence. Not a New Testament.
Anyways, what is accomplished by upping the GP awards to 4? The best teams, the ones that win the GP, get 4 points? Not worth it to fix a problem only 1 person has.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 20, 2015 23:16:23 GMT -5
He wasn't being taunting, he was helping you. Notice how I actually read and replied to his post? It was a sentence. Not a New Testament. Anyways, what is accomplished by upping the GP awards to 4? The best teams, the ones that win the GP, get 4 points? Not worth it to fix a problem only 1 person has. What was actually accomplished by implementing your BS men's cap? You were the only one that had some sort of problem with it the way it was and that was put in without much discussion. It's the same difference if you wanna look at it from a "what does it accomplish?" standpoint. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 20, 2015 23:32:58 GMT -5
1) How is that furthering your case here, RE: draft picks?
2) How many points did you say you were offered for Josh Barnett?
3) There are at least 3 LWs who I know for a fact would not be here were it not for the new system.
4) How is this furthering your case and convincing people you are capable of staying on track?
5) Go home; you're drunk
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 21, 2015 0:07:51 GMT -5
1) How is that furthering your case here, RE: draft picks? 2) How many points did you say you were offered for Josh Barnett? 3) There are at least 3 LWs who I know for a fact would not be here were it not for the new system. 4) How is this furthering your case and convincing people you are capable of staying on track? 5) Go home; you're drunk 1) Never said it was... you simply made the point that you wouldn't change anything based on one person, but did with your cap. 2) I was offered up to 5. 3) I doubt that being the league needed LWs and we had a 1 point sale. 4) Who's repeating himself now? (See your question #1.)5) I am home; stone sober. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 21, 2015 0:11:37 GMT -5
Cool story bro. Anyways, this "problem". No one else is having it. So being that it has no greater value, and has no league agreement, I think it might be safe to close the book on this discussion. 1 person with a problem that can (and is) being solved by posting more does not require an avalanche of point-changes just to increase the value of the last place pick...for no reason. I think most seem to agree we're good here.
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