Ferocity
Black Belt (5th Degree)
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Post by Ferocity on Apr 19, 2015 15:52:32 GMT -5
So... what does everyone think? Is this a problem for anyone either than Phoenix. Also post if you'd be willing to help Phoenix out in some other way.
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Ferocity
Black Belt (5th Degree)
Posts: 3,455
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Post by Ferocity on Apr 19, 2015 15:53:17 GMT -5
I'd be willing to look at trade offers from Phoenix, but I have 2 or 3 fighters I won't move to ANYONE.
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 19, 2015 16:18:51 GMT -5
I had no intentions of commenting here, but since you've posted a "call for aid" for xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club, I felt people should be fully informed before offering up people they might really like. - I have offered PHX Mirko Cro Cop, Miesha Tate, Cung Le, and Joachim Hansen. He didn't want any of them. - I acquired Tito Ortiz for Hansen to charity Tito to PHX for 2 points and Krzysztof Soszynski. - I offered PHX Anderson Silva + Gina Carano for Sarah D'Alelio, Dominick Cruz, and Brock Lesnar. He declined. Phoenix does not want better fighters. He wants his project fighters to be better. There is nothing wrong with that. But I think that is what makes this a team issue vs. a league issue. The league, as a community, has offered help in making Phoenix Fight Club a better team, but the guy behind the team likes his fighters (again, totally fine), and would rather keep the inferior fighters and make them good. Again, more power to him - i do this too - but that is a team call, not a league responsibility.
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Post by xx - The Underdog Regime on Apr 19, 2015 16:25:13 GMT -5
I want all the good fighters here for chump change
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Apr 19, 2015 22:25:30 GMT -5
WOW anderson silva best fighter ever and declines also gina the beast in the women division always has the belt
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Apr 19, 2015 22:35:09 GMT -5
ill take gina and anderson!
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 19, 2015 22:50:38 GMT -5
I had no intentions of commenting here Then perhaps try trusting your better judgment for a change and not comment. What you've offered me in trade or what you did to acquire Tito is irrelevant. You made those offers knowing full well that I wouldn't take them just so you could pull this shit later. Grow up already... this isn't high school man. @ Ferocity: This whole thing is not and was never about me. If you're going to start an entirely new troll thread, atleast have the decency to put it in the trash talk section. This is fucking stupid... it doesn't matter how frustrating the situation is or how frustrated you are with me for not agreeing with you, there was no need for this nor to keep trying to make it about me, when it isn't.
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 19, 2015 22:55:57 GMT -5
1) My input here became important in letting members know that you have been offered (and taken and accepted) huge charity from the top team, so these "middle/bottom" teams you keep talking about don't have to give up guys they like when you don't actually WANT to get better fighters. That is my business, and they have the right to be informed before making decisions to offer you help.
2) As for the poll question - It's an honest question. If only 1 member out of 11 has a problem, that can't be helped. As much as I try to make everyone happy, it's just not possible. Imagine Cannon's fury if you did accept the Anderson/Carano trade. Think he would have been happy about that?
(Also, FYI, just because people disagree with you does not mean they are trolling you. Ferocity is not trolling you, she is asking if anyone else here has a problem with the draft picks...straight forward question)
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 19, 2015 23:20:26 GMT -5
1) My input here became important in letting members know that you have been offered (and taken and accepted) huge charity from the top team, so these "middle/bottom" teams you keep talking about don't have to give up guys they like when you don't actually WANT to get better fighters. That is my business, and they have the right to be informed before making decisions to offer you help. 2) As for the poll question - It's an honest question. If only 1 member out of 11 has a problem, that can't be helped. As much as I try to make everyone happy, it's just not possible. Imagine Cannon's fury if you did accept the Anderson/Carano trade. Think he would have been happy about that? (Also, FYI, just because people disagree with you does not mean they are trolling you. Ferocity is not trolling you, she is asking if anyone else here has a problem with the draft picks...straight forward question) None of what you put forth was needed as this was 1) not about charity or trades and 2) shouldn't even be about me in the first place. What other purpose is there to this other than to single me out when this was never about me at all. If it were just about the draft issue, then fine... but this is blatent and is trolling. Of course the "no" side is going to get the most votes because it's being made to be about me and has made it a popularity contest again on "do you like Kruze?" and not an honest question. This is pretty pointless. lol
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Apr 19, 2015 23:25:47 GMT -5
Cant TROLL a TROLLER.. PhX doesnt need the charity
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 19, 2015 23:28:32 GMT -5
Cant TROLL a TROLLER.. PhX doesnt need the charity Never once said I did. lol
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Apr 19, 2015 23:50:30 GMT -5
Cant TROLL a TROLLER.. PhX doesnt need the charity Never once said I did. lol ] then stop whyning about draft picks man..
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 19, 2015 23:55:00 GMT -5
None of what you put forth was needed as this was 1) not about charity or trades Then we've just settled this. The ONLY thing xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club wants is more points, and he can get those by posting more. League doesn't need to get involved, and everyone wins. What other purpose is there to this other than to single me out when this was never about me at all. You have been vocal about this issue. She was clearly asking if anyone else was also feeling the same way as you. A poll is annonamous, and avoids people yelling at you for having an opinion (Ferocity voiced hers and now you are all pissy with her calling her a troll). This is ananmaous and lets the league vote as a majority to see if there are more people who have a problem with it. Of course the "no" side is going to get the most votes because it's being made to be about me and has made it a popularity contest again on "do you like Kruze?" and not an honest question. This is pretty pointless. lol You think too much of yourself. People don't hate you - they don't give a shit about you one way or another. Since this suggestion came up, the ISSUE has been talked to death. People were unconvinced it was even an issue. You kept saying, "NO LOOK, IT IS! I AM ALWAYS IN LAST PLACE" so people have pointed to your team as to WHY you were always in last place. It's never been about you. People here, and voting here, are not going to vote against you if you are on a side that makes sense. On this issue, it seems most people do not agree. It happens. Take up a new issue, and more people will be on your side. Simple stuff.
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Post by Lord Byron's Conquistadors on Apr 20, 2015 0:17:43 GMT -5
OMG its here too. phx i didnt read most of your shit its long remetitive and everywhere and i didnt read any sandmens shit but christ phx no ones out to get you man trust me. i think you whine and cry like a baby and need be a man but i dont hold a grudge or nothin. id vote with you if i agreed cuz its alla bout the league for me man. im votin as someone who is proud of my accomplsiohments here and i don want 6 fuckin points if i finish last. i wanna earn my way up like everyone befrore me for the past 14 seasons ffs.
i vote no i aint got no problem with draft picks. i do NOT vote no to "do you like kruze".
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 20, 2015 1:10:45 GMT -5
i vote no i aint got no problem with draft picks. i do NOT vote no to "do you like kruze". I would also vote "yes" to "Doyou like Kruze". Though I like Kruze on the telephone much more than on-site, and wish you folks on-site could get a better feel for the real Kruze, since he is far more likeable on the phone, and comes across less abrasive and FAR more friendly and pleasant.
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