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Post by The Sandmen on May 7, 2015 16:17:20 GMT -5
For those who have not heard, the Reebok UFC sponsorship is now based on UFC fight experience, and pay-out breaks down as follows:
1 to 5 UFC bouts - $2,500 per fight
6 to 10 UFC bouts get $5,000
11 to 15 UFC bouts get $10,000
16 to 20 UFC bouts get $15,000
21 UFC bouts and above get $20,000
Many name-fighters with limited experience are annoyed by this. Few actually seem happy, outside of Gleisen Tibau and Joe Lauzon. Brandan Shaub says he made 6 figures over his past 3 fights with his old sponsors. Others feel brand-loyal and are annoyed by this compensation.
FURTHERMORE, the UFC has an additional ad-spot on fighters (shots, I believe) that they can basically use as well. There are few if any details on what that amounts to, who gets that money, etc.
Also of interest, the UFC claims they don't make a dime off of the Reebok deal, and every penny goes to the fighters, or to pay for the sponsorship program itself.
What do you guys think of it all?
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Post by The Mighty Ducks on May 8, 2015 5:53:36 GMT -5
I feel like it makes it so that new fighters never have to worry about sponsorships and will just get an extra kick when they fight, but could also allow the UFC to pay less money to their fighters because now Reebok is covering that little bit of an amount, but those who enjoyed sponsors outside of Reebok - which is like a shit load of other companies - they are royally fucked.
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Post by xx - The Underdog Regime on May 8, 2015 12:38:11 GMT -5
My initial question - why?
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Post by The Sandmen on May 8, 2015 15:06:26 GMT -5
Depends who you ask:
UFC - "To clean up the sport, have clean, consistent uniforms like other major sports, and have fighters not have to worry about sponsorship."
Former Fighters - "To give the UFC more control over fighters'.
Me - In part, control over fighters, in part control over their product, and in part to eliminate managers entirely from the UFC/Fighter negotiations.
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Post by The Sandmen on May 11, 2015 15:52:38 GMT -5
Apparently a lot of fighters are putting in calls to Bellator. Coker has told them he can't do anything until they are free agents. But that's interesting stuff, and the UFC has some fence-mending.
Hell, Reebok is starting to suffer too. Anyone hear all the boos from the fans when Reebok was mentioned at the event on Saturday?
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Post by xx - The Underdog Regime on May 11, 2015 16:37:08 GMT -5
If UFC was gonna make a deal, it should have been with one of the 3 now-major sport clothing companies in North America, which is Nike, Adidas or Under Armor. Reebok has been a sinking ship since 2008, when they turned into a smaller-sport company in North America after inking a deal with the NHL in having their logo on their jerseys. If you, a big-sport, a big revenue grabbing company is going to make an endorsement deal with any company, Under Armor or Nike is the way to go. Reebok is only good for NHL and CFL jerseys, and MLB shoes.
Just a side fact: Only 6 MMA fighters (Pettis, Hendricks, Rousey, VanZant, McGregor and Karakhanyan) had endorsement deals with Reebok prior to the UFC deal. Kinda shows you that they might have some fighters already (and some pretty big names, too), but they are far from the top endorser in MMA.
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Post by The Mighty Ducks on May 12, 2015 6:38:09 GMT -5
I think knowing they only had six fighters on a roster of nearly 300 is a sign that Reebok, in no way whatsoever, was on everyone's must have endorsement signing list.
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Post by xx - The Underdog Regime on May 12, 2015 18:33:25 GMT -5
Actually, 5 of the fighters are signed to the UFC. Karakhanyan is a Bellator fighter
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Post by The Sandmen on May 12, 2015 21:29:36 GMT -5
Also of interest...if everyone is forced to wear your brand, your brand is meaningless. It doesn't matter if Ronda Rousey wears Reebok becuase, guess what - so does Gleisen Tibau, and Larissa Pacheco, and Jake Lindsey, and Bentley Syler, and Cain Carrizosa, and Akbarh Arreola, and Jorge de Oliveira. Soooo...yeah.......
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Post by xx - The Underdog Regime on May 12, 2015 22:17:19 GMT -5
Heh, you said areola.
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Post by The Rocketmen on Jun 1, 2015 12:36:05 GMT -5
Jose Aldo speaks! www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/5/31/8695387/jose-aldo-ufc-reebok-deal-wants-fighters-union-mma-news"First of all. It's shit. Everybody has been talking about it. We, athletes, are losing a lot. They said we would be like NBA or NFL athlete, but that doesn't apply, because we are not paid monthly like they are. It doesn't matter how much we will be paid, all athletes who had sponsors are losing money. That's a huge setback for us. We live for each fight, we have to keep fighting and nobody fights more than three times a year. Not a champion, anyway. Even the value they measured doesn't match what our sponsors were paying us. That is great for the UFC, but not for the fighters. I see a lot of athletes losing too much. If you are a beginner there is not that big of a hurry to get paid, but it still isn't that much. Not enough to get them by at least. I don't like it. Ever since they started talking about this, I asked to see what they were offering us and I never thought it was interesting, especially for the champions." "If we are going to talk about something, that does not depend on just me being the champion, or Cain Velasquez, or any other champion. If we had a union for fighters, and we were all together, like in the NBA, this would've been different. But fighters are not united. Today I have a price the event is willing to pay to have me, but there are other fighters out there willing to fight for spare change if I don't want to, and that is not even their fault. The UFC brought the sport to where it is today, great, that's their merit. But if athletes were more united and had a union to protect them, I don't think this would happen." "When I speak about this, I don't speak for myself. If I say this might be good for Aldo, yeah, sure it can, I would make good money, I could say that. But when I look at other athletes, like I do at my gym, they need me and Andre Pederneiras to start helping them, because that's a bad thing that they are doing to them. It gets really bad for up and comers or guys who are trying to reach the top. I'm not talking about me, I'm all right, I'm the champion and I have a high price. Aldo hasn't become the champion now, he has been the champion for years. But for the beginners, it's really bad." |
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