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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Aug 2, 2015 14:42:19 GMT -5
As usual, none of your babble had anything to do with suggestions. That is why you get nothing done, suggestion-wise. You ignore the HOW TO GET THINGS DONE, and just whine and point fingers about things completely unrelated. Focus on solving your suggestion problem. As usual, you ignore how your own behavior affects how people react to you when you're the one that made the pointers and deviated from the subject matter yourself. I'm not whining about anything here, just pointing out that you're no saint in any of this either and rather than actually work towards any solution, and talk about relevant things to actually find a way to make it work, you just set up more "provisions" and hurdles instead of discussing how to rectify the situation. Not to mention creating 3 separate threads for this crap when 1 would've sufficed... all in an attempt to make it seem like it's a bigger deal than it is AND to continue to make it some more like I'm somehow "freaking out" when I'm 100% not. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Aug 2, 2015 14:43:22 GMT -5
My behaviour has nothing to do with your ability to post a suggestion and solve your problem. Just post the suggestion and stop bickering at me.
Like, just do it now. Nothing is stopping you.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Aug 2, 2015 14:49:17 GMT -5
My behaviour has nothing to do with your ability to post a suggestion and solve your problem. Just post the suggestion and stop bickering at me. Like, just do it now. Nothing is stopping you. Yes, it has quite a bit to do with it Justin, because when you're in the "I don't want to do it." or "I won't do it" mode, you refuse to listen to any suggestion presented or solution to it, no matter how good or bad it is, and you'll find any excuse, like you are right now, to deviate away from it and claim I'm "bickering" with you. You're the one that started off on this topic of "how to make a suggestion", so now you can deal with that too. It's called multi-tasking. Look it up. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Aug 2, 2015 14:54:57 GMT -5
Suggest something that works and I'll do it. I'm not doing suggestions that don't work. You are confusing the two. You throw up a suggestion that doesn't work then assume that I don't like it because you are a twat. If you are a twat (I am neither saying you are or are not a twat), it has NOTHING to do with anything. It would help you get respect if you did not act like a twat, but if your suggestion was solid enough, it would be used.
Right now, your suggestion does not work. So fine-tune it into something that works. That is what I am waiting eagerly to hear. Not more "YOU YOU YOU" yelling - I want to hear your suggestion on how to improve the league. I don;t care about the rest.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Aug 2, 2015 15:16:20 GMT -5
Suggest something that works and I'll do it. I'm not doing suggestions that don't work. You are confusing the two. You throw up a suggestion that doesn't work then assume that I don't like it because you are a twat. If you are a twat (I am neither saying you are or are not a twat), it has NOTHING to do with anything. It would help you get respect if you did not act like a twat, but if your suggestion was solid enough, it would be used. Right now, your suggestion does not work. So fine-tune it into something that works. That is what I am waiting eagerly to hear. Not more "YOU YOU YOU" yelling - I want to hear your suggestion on how to improve the league. I don;t care about the rest. Well quit saying I am a twat then saying I'm not... pretty simple equation there. Especially when both of us doing the "YOU YOU YOU" yelling at eachother. Now, as to the suggestion, just to break it down... You obviously see the merit in what I'm proposing with the revealing the fighters attributes as a solid suggestion, but you are unable/unwilling to do the work involved nor are you willing to allow someone else, namely me, to do that work for the league. When I've offered to help with tasks around the site to free up some time for you to do that, I've been told that "everything is done" or given the option of doing a task that would free up no time for you whatsoever in reformatting the fight history again. I'm really starting to think that you'd rather just argue about it and continue going around in circles with it rather than come up with an actual solution here even though you know that revealing the fighter attributes will help everyone in the league in terms of upgrading our fighters. So again I will ask: 1) How do we free up some time for you to enable you to do this suggestion as efficiently, effectively and as quickly as possible? OR 2) How do we get to a point where you'll trust me, or someone else that's willing to do it, that will put you at ease that there would be no "cheating" happening whatsoever? |
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Post by The Sandmen on Aug 2, 2015 15:18:38 GMT -5
1) That's for you to figure out, not me. It's your suggestion.
2) I won't trust you, nor would I give any 1 person access to every fighter's stats. Too much to go wrong. Not even Mike, the guy I trust more than anyone here, has access to that information or those files.
So think of something else. Again, it's your suggestion.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Aug 2, 2015 15:55:23 GMT -5
1) That's for you to figure out, not me. It's your suggestion. 2) I won't trust you, nor would I give any 1 person access to every fighter's stats. Too much to go wrong. Not even Mike, the guy I trust more than anyone here, has access to that information or those files. So think of something else. Again, it's your suggestion. 1) Yes, it's my suggestion, but it's not for me to figure out because I don't know your schedule and you will not offer up any ways to free up time for yourself to even consider doing this due to your summation that it will be "boring and tedious". Hence the offer of doing it myself for the site. 2) Again, that's seriously just your paranoia talking; nothing more. It remains one of the biggest reasons why it didn't work out for us when I was supposedly staff. There needs to be a certain level of trust when you're supposed to be working together towards a goal, even with the people doing the little tasks for you around the site. You, unfortunately, don't seem to possess a capacity for it, and no one can fix that but you. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Aug 2, 2015 16:00:47 GMT -5
1) Cool, well its not for me to figure out either, since it doesn;t seem to benefit the league. SHow me how it does, then I will look into figuring it out.
2) Not trusting someone who does nothing but bash you is not paranoia, it's common sense. There is no problem with that distrust, and it is not something I am going to fix. I keep saying, poll the league and see how many members here WOULD trust you with the entire integrity of the site in the balance.
Now, stop dwelling in the past and come up with a new suggestion, or drop it. Your old suggestion (you having master files or me posting 176 fighters worth of stats) is not happening. Move forward.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Aug 2, 2015 16:30:10 GMT -5
1) Cool, well its not for me to figure out either, since it doesn;t seem to benefit the league. SHow me how it does, then I will look into figuring it out. 2) Not trusting someone who does nothing but bash you is not paranoia, it's common sense. There is no problem with that distrust, and it is not something I am going to fix. I keep saying, poll the league and see how many members here WOULD trust you with the entire integrity of the site in the balance. Now, stop dwelling in the past and come up with a new suggestion, or drop it. Your old suggestion (you having master files or me posting 176 fighters worth of stats) is not happening. Move forward. 1) It benefits the league by allowing the players to better understand the program as well as you do after having done the simming for so long. It's as simple as that. 2) Did you ever wonder the reason you keep getting bashed or folks calling you out on the fact that you know the program better than anyone else? What should be the common sense is that you, as the simmer, would want to a level playing field for everyone and not want to be winning every season like it's on autopilot. That brings the integrity of the league down a fair chunk when, in most seasons, no one has even a prayer of being the top team in the league because the simmer is in the top spot over 90% of the time. Why should we, as players, even bother when it's just a given that Sandman wins every season? You wonder why there's been such a drastic drop in activity in a number of members on the site, I can guarantee that, that is part of it other than people's time and people's lives. You say you don't care about winning... Prove it! |
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Post by Ferocity on Aug 2, 2015 16:33:44 GMT -5
Everything after Mike's last post is unecessary. I need deleting powers on this site. I promise to only use my great power for good and not for evil.
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Post by xx - Former Bulldozers on Aug 2, 2015 17:56:26 GMT -5
1) Cool, well its not for me to figure out either, since it doesn;t seem to benefit the league. SHow me how it does, then I will look into figuring it out. 2) Not trusting someone who does nothing but bash you is not paranoia, it's common sense. There is no problem with that distrust, and it is not something I am going to fix. I keep saying, poll the league and see how many members here WOULD trust you with the entire integrity of the site in the balance. Now, stop dwelling in the past and come up with a new suggestion, or drop it. Your old suggestion (you having master files or me posting 176 fighters worth of stats) is not happening. Move forward. 1) It benefits the league by allowing the players to better understand the program as well as you do after having done the simming for so long. It's as simple as that. 2) Did you ever wonder the reason you keep getting bashed or folks calling you out on the fact that you know the program better than anyone else? What should be the common sense is that you, as the simmer, would want to a level playing field for everyone and not want to be winning every season like it's on autopilot. That brings the integrity of the league down a fair chunk when, in most seasons, no one has even a prayer of being the top team in the league because the simmer is in the top spot over 90% of the time. Why should we, as players, even bother when it's just a given that Sandman wins every season? You wonder why there's been such a drastic drop in activity in a number of members on the site, I can guarantee that, that is part of it other than people's time and people's lives. You say you don't care about winning... Prove it! Youre the only person that tries to call him out on stuff |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Aug 3, 2015 7:34:09 GMT -5
1) It benefits the league by allowing the players to better understand the program as well as you do after having done the simming for so long. It's as simple as that. 2) Did you ever wonder the reason you keep getting bashed or folks calling you out on the fact that you know the program better than anyone else? What should be the common sense is that you, as the simmer, would want to a level playing field for everyone and not want to be winning every season like it's on autopilot. That brings the integrity of the league down a fair chunk when, in most seasons, no one has even a prayer of being the top team in the league because the simmer is in the top spot over 90% of the time. Why should we, as players, even bother when it's just a given that Sandman wins every season? You wonder why there's been such a drastic drop in activity in a number of members on the site, I can guarantee that, that is part of it other than people's time and people's lives. You say you don't care about winning... Prove it! Youre the only person that tries to call him out on stuff I'm definitely the most vocal on things, yes. I won't deny that, but I'm not the only one. |
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Post by xx - Former Bulldozers on Aug 3, 2015 8:56:40 GMT -5
Youre the only person that tries to call him out on stuff I'm definitely the most vocal on things, yes. I won't deny that, but I'm not the only one. Who else does it besides maybe GAP? |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Aug 3, 2015 10:34:29 GMT -5
I saw my name twice on the page. I refused to read anything else from fear of wasting more precious time in my life on things that don't matter. If anyone wants to learn how to quickly understand a Kruze proposal or argument do as follows:
Step 1 - read his first post in a given thread.
Step 2 - read any comment anyone else makes about his comment.
Step 3 - look at the pages upon pages of essays and nonsense and tell yourself "this is just a copy and paste but written (sometimes) 50 different ways as his first post".
Step 4 - formulate your own opinion
Step 5 - decide if you even care
Step 6 - thank Mike for saving you hours and hours of your life that you can enjoy doing amazingly more incredible things.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Aug 3, 2015 11:15:17 GMT -5
I'm definitely the most vocal on things, yes. I won't deny that, but I'm not the only one. Who else does it besides maybe GAP? GAP, Cannon sometimes... Hell, even you have too man. So as I said... not the only one. I saw my name twice on the page. I refused to read anything else from fear of wasting more precious time in my life on things that don't matter. If anyone wants to learn how to quickly understand a Kruze proposal or argument do as follows: Step 1 - read his first post in a given thread. Step 2 - read any comment anyone else makes about his comment. Step 3 - look at the pages upon pages of essays and nonsense and tell yourself "this is just a copy and paste but written (sometimes) 50 different ways as his first post". Step 4 - formulate your own opinion Step 5 - decide if you even care Step 6 - thank Mike for saving you hours and hours of your life that you can enjoy doing amazingly more incredible things. Oh just shut the fuck up already Mike... You're getting worse than Cannon already FFS |
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