Kruze vs. Potential, then Kruze vs. Learning How to Upgrade Properly

[xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club]

By that notion, everyone has the potential, yet you'll also say that certain fighter don't. Interesting.

[The Rocketmen]

Intriguing, but then not enough to dazzle me.

[xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club]

Sandman's not that dazzling to begin with, so I accept that.

[The Rocketmen]

he needs more rinestones on his cowboy hat

[xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club]

But he's no "Rhinestone Cowboy" though lol

[The Sandmen]

Sept 11, 2015 20:41:11 GMT -5 xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club said:

By that notion, everyone has the potential, yet you'll also say that certain fighter don't. Interesting.

There are certain teams that do not upgrade their fighters, or upgrade them poorly. Those fighters on those teams I would say have little to no potential.

[xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club]

And there it is again... "upgrade better", "upgrade poorly"... it's all bullshit. We all have the same attributes to choose from to upgrade.

[The Sandmen]

So you are saying Cannon's power-upgrading of Rousey was of equal quality as, say, Dozers upgrading of Murphy?

[The Rocketmen]

Sept 12, 2015 1:57:56 GMT -5 The Sandmen said:

So you are saying Cannon's power-upgrading of Rousey was of equal quality as, say, Dozers upgrading of Murphy?

What is this... logic? GET THE FUCK OUT.

[xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club]

Sept 12, 2015 1:57:56 GMT -5 The Sandmen said:

So you are saying Cannon's power-upgrading of Rousey was of equal quality as, say, Dozers upgrading of Murphy?

There's no comparison since Cannon's only goal in power-upgrading Rousey was to max out every single stat, and the catalyst for us having a cap in the first.

[The Sandmen]

But he had access to the same stats as everyone before and since...so by your claim, it should not matter. If it does matter, as you NOW say, then you are agreeing that you CAN upgrade right and you can upgrade wrong.

[xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club]

Sept 12, 2015 14:27:46 GMT -5 The Sandmen said:

But he had access to the same stats as everyone before and since...so by your claim, it should not matter. If it does matter, as you NOW say, then you are agreeing that you CAN upgrade right and you can upgrade wrong.

No, it does matter but you can't use Cannon's power-upgrade of Rousey as an example because it was completely different set of circumstances. He had a totally different focus in upgrading her because he was looking to make her a 100 overall, so there was no thought put into it at all whereas other do upgrade to strengths and focus, but still garner the same results, and that shouldn't be the case.

[The Sandmen]

How is it different? Cannon upgraded 1 way, it did not work. You upgrade another way, it does not work. I upgrade a third way, it often works. 3 different ways to do something, 3 different results. All using the "same stats we are all have to work with".

[The Rocketmen]

Seriously, shut up with your accurate comments. This is ManMMA. We don't take too kindly to you folks around these parts.

[xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club]

Sept 12, 2015 18:06:56 GMT -5 The Sandmen said:

How is it different? Cannon upgraded 1 way, it did not work. You upgrade another way, it does not work. I upgrade a third way, it often works. 3 different ways to do something, 3 different results. All using the "same stats we are all have to work with".

I don't upgrade any differently than you, that's just it... and the only "evidence" you have, to the contrary, is that your upgrades work and mine don't, yet you don't explain what, if any, difference there are between how we upgrade. Your answer is simply "upgrade better". That's not advice nor is it giving a difference in ways of upgrading.