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Post by The Rocketmen on Aug 27, 2016 18:36:13 GMT -5
Shut up.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Aug 27, 2016 21:58:02 GMT -5
xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club, it's like you remember nothing from our phone call. As I said then: 1) it doesn't matter "what it looks like", it's math. Cold, uncaring math. 2) It's not a problem of what people COULD do. That is part of it. It's a problem of what IS happening, which can cause more people to do it. As I said, it's a problem I observed, then was later mentioned to me as well. 3) Just because you keep saying the problem doesn't exist doesn't mean it's true. Book a season (yes, using that Master Roster document you told me on the phone was so damned intimidating to you) and THEN you will understand. Right now, you are talking about something you know nothing about, and your main argument is "No, cuz just no". It's silly. 4) You seem so concerned about the 2 members this is targeting. While the same number of members mentioned the problem to me, so if 2 matters, then 2 matters. You can't pick and choose which 2 members' opinions matter just because you are part of one group, guy. 4)If you want to officially propose your "FiD based on weight class" solution, please do. Write-up the math in a suggestion thread. I think, as we saw on the phone, people will see it gets awfully messy, and you would still be sitting at 3 straight losses for FiD per season, but if you think that is more fair, I'm sure people like Byron (who would get about 6 straight losses for FiD for some fighters) would support it. Seriously, post it. Talk is cheap. I'm just as on board with your change as I am my proposed change, so go ahead and get others on board with it and I'll express my support for it in the thread, once you make it. 1) It does matter what it looks like because your "math" is inconclusive because you keep changing shit and not seeing if there really is a problem or not. Period. You're making up a new rule for the sake of making up a new rule every 10 secs. lol You have no basis because we haven't even had a concrete full season of you 3PT-PC rule working, nor have we seen a season where all teams have the same number of total fights either. 2) People "are doing it", only in your warped little mf-ing mind.  lol That's it. The only person that was allegedly doing it with knowledge they were doing it, was you. And after all I did to help get the numbers even in the league by downsizing, this is the "thanks" I get... more restrictions and stupidity from you placed on my teAm because of "roster size", and I don't even really have a large team by the league numbers. It's pathetic. 3) I didn't tell you it was intimidating at all...  Where did you come up with that BS? If I had the time to book an entire season, I'd do it. I have no qualms about that... but, the fact is that, I don't sit at home all day anymore like you do. I work for a living. There's a vast difference. So don't be sitting there and projecting your bullshit ideas and theories without facts, especially about other people. I know plenty about it. I clearly see that your 3 fights per team/per card rule, while evening out the fights per team/per season and was needed at one time with the size of my roster, created a problem for yourself in terms of FiD, whereby (allegedly) "larger teams" (which don't really exist anymore) are getting fewer fights still based on your system, and therefore that impacts FiD because you're still booking teams with the smaller rosters in the league with preference because they're "smaller" and not because of any other reason. If you went by weight class, which pinpoints the issue you're having exactly, where teams that have higher numbers in one weight class have the lower FiD number in that specific weight class, you'd find that would be more fair for everyone in terms of what you're really trying to accomplish with this, because I don't think it's fair that my entire team is penalized when I have say 4 BWs and some other guy's carrying 6. Why should my BWs get a lower cap number than the guy that has 2 more fighters than I do? That doesn't make any sense when the literal problem you were claiming started this shit right from the beginning with your 3PT-PC rule, was so that larger teams wouldn't get more fights than smaller ones, and it was allegedly an even playing field, but in doing so, you created a perceived problem that only you and one other yo-yo were aware of, meanwhile, the two teams that obviously weren't circumventing cap at all, in fact one of them downsized his own roster to help your league, get penalized because you couldn't come up with anything for this past time preceding, the 3 PT-PC rule, that fair for each and every team on the site and not just favoring and pandering to the "smaller" rosters on the site. These "larger" rosters of which you speak, they're teams in this league too brother and you can't be penalizing them at every turn either, especially when they're trying to be a bit accommodating in terms of distributing their talent out to help create more even numbers in the entire league, which they are now. It's just going to be sanction after sanction; penalty after penalty, that's just going to start snowballing (which it already has), all because you keep trying to "fix" a problem that you created yourself, and another problem came up after you "fixed" that one, so you have to "fix" that... and so on and as forth. There is no issue until it's actually an issue Justin... You're such a busybody that you've never realized that, let alone seen past the end of your own nose to see that it's you, yourself, that have created all these issues on your own that you're trying to "fix"... And you're getting so obsessed with "fixing" these problems that the problem you're trying to "fix", has already past and isn't even a problem anymore due to the fact you're basing everything on entire roster size, and there's no huge discrepancy anymore, which you DID tell me in our convo; a rational difference of 1 fighter. One fucking fighter... lol Do you know how ridiculous that is man? Yet you're still going through with this shit like the league is in some dire peril because of it. That's where the BS part comes into play. 4) It's no more messy than this shit you've created here with these last few rules changes bro... and it actually pinpoints an issue of folks having 1/3 to 1/4 (5-6 fighter) of one weight class, yet have a perceived "smaller team" so all their fighters get the higher FiD number, that's not fair to the perceived "larger team" that has 3 fighters in that weight class because, not only do they have a lower FiD number, but their fighters, as a whole, also aren't all receiving all the fights they should, and could be 1-2 of those 3 he has because of his roster size... meanwhile, the guy with 6 is getting fighter preference because of his perceived roster size being "small", and therefore likely getting more fights than the guy with only 3. Honestly, I think it all should be kiboshed... the 3PT-PC rule and this ridiculous new FiD thing, because neither are needed anymore, because again, as you said, we're now talking about a 1 fighter differential here, on average... not 2, 3 or 5... One fighter. None of this is really needed anymore. |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Aug 27, 2016 22:07:14 GMT -5
You shut up for once Mike... After my convo with Justin, I still don't agree with him, but, while being long-winded, I'm not being hostile or anything. If you don't want to read it, good for you... doesn't mean I have to not voice my opinion because of your virgin eyes. lol Grow up already. |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Aug 27, 2016 22:11:09 GMT -5
There's a difference between voicing opinions and beating a thousand horses to death with the same stick, in multiple continents, on live television.
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Post by The Sandmen on Aug 27, 2016 23:08:10 GMT -5
Kruze...if you want your "fighters per weight class" thing, go post it in the suggestion box. You won't get results arguing it here. And try to keep it as short as you can. People are lazy and don't read long essays.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Aug 28, 2016 19:53:25 GMT -5
Kruze...if you want your "fighters per weight class" thing, go post it in the suggestion box. You won't get results arguing it here. And try to keep it as short as you can. People are lazy and don't read long essays. We're debating the points man... You're the one that started making things in points, I responded. There's no arguing here... it's point/counterpoint. Where's the problem, other than you getting frustrated that I don't see it your way and disagree with you. You're actually big the reason that my posts turn into such long-winded "essays" with all the shit you spew that isn't true. lol Sorry you don't like that I call you on it, but too bad... I'll speak my mind and I won't put up with shit. If you say something, have some truth behind it... not theories, conjecture, and, ultimately, ridicule, when someone isn't buying into your crap. lol It's ridiculous. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Aug 29, 2016 1:48:49 GMT -5
So you are not suggesting your change anymore?
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Aug 30, 2016 2:47:11 GMT -5
So you are not suggesting your change anymore? No. On the contrary... I'm fully suggesting my changes, 100% |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Aug 30, 2016 6:55:52 GMT -5
no one knows what it is. I am also supporting the thing in my secret bag, but you need to travel to Kenya first to know what's in it. Less words. More direct to the point. I'll read something condensed.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Aug 30, 2016 11:00:32 GMT -5
But the thing is here The Sandmen, with the "new team" supposedly coming in, none of this FiD crap will be relevant anymore anyways because of the fighter donations and more spreading of the fighters. Cuz honestly, if you keep it in place after that team joins, all you'll literally be doing is just targeting myself and GAP for pleasure, not for any other reason. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Aug 30, 2016 11:43:34 GMT -5
Stop posting here. You are burying the new team thread.
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lol That's it. The only person that was allegedly doing it with knowledge they were doing it, was you. And after all I did to help get the numbers even in the league by downsizing, this is the "thanks" I get... more restrictions and stupidity from you placed on my teAm because of "roster size", and I don't even really have a large team by the league numbers. It's pathetic. 
Where did you come up with that BS? If I had the time to book an entire season, I'd do it. I have no qualms about that... but, the fact is that, I don't sit at home all day anymore like you do. I work for a living. There's a vast difference. So don't be sitting there and projecting your bullshit ideas and theories without facts, especially about other people.
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Have 9 points in celebration of this monumental achievement!
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