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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 9, 2017 9:51:48 GMT -5
In other news, Austin has informed me his friend is not joining now, so thank you very much to those who volunteered to help out ( xx - The Broad Street Bullies, The Rocketmen, The Mighty Ducks, Lord Byron's Conquistadors, xx - Team GAP). Your generosity is appreciated. So much so, in fact, that you can all have 2 points. The Texas Rattlesnakes can also have 2 points for the work he put into trying to get Isaac here and to stay, etc. Thanks again, guys! I think I should be eligible for this since I did end up ultimately saying that I'd donate 2 fighters due to the new roster limit next season. It shouldn't really matter if I was specific as to which fighters I was going to donate yet. Your snide comment as to who you thought I'd put up shouldn't even come into play here, but as you can see by Rocketmen's comment above, that's all that's being looked at. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 9, 2017 10:54:08 GMT -5
Sorry xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club, this does not count as "I was willing to donate to help out": Oh right.. There's the goofy 16 roster limit thingy too. 😂 I'll wait til the team standings are posted after Zenith... And no, neither Lesnar or Cruz will be donated, sorry Lanterns. YOu did not clearly say THAT you were donating, nor WHAT you were donating. It is not the same as a clear offer, and in light of your previous post: Yah, I probably won't be donating anything this time around either. I had enough problems this season... Don't need anymore. Sorry. ...though there is still the possibility of my team opening up completely if this stip for the versus challenge gets changed from what I agreed to. So there is that, unfortunately. That you had no intentions of willfully donating anything. Losing 2 fighters that a new team has access to becuase of the roster limit does not acount as trying to help out a new team. Sorry dude. I guess if it happens again, be more clear with your intentions (i.e. "I'll donate someone good, once I see my standings", etc, vs "I probably won't be donating anything. Oh yeah, roster limist, I'll wait til standings are posted". Which, in context, reads as though you are waiting until standings are posted to decide who you are dropping to adhere to roster limits, not who you are willing to donate to help out) |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 9, 2017 12:53:19 GMT -5
Sorry xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club, this does not count as "I was willing to donate to help out": Oh right.. There's the goofy 16 roster limit thingy too. 😂 I'll wait til the team standings are posted after Zenith... And no, neither Lesnar or Cruz will be donated, sorry Lanterns. YOu did not clearly say THAT you were donating, nor WHAT you were donating. It is not the same as a clear offer, and in light of your previous post: Yah, I probably won't be donating anything this time around either. I had enough problems this season... Don't need anymore. Sorry. ...though there is still the possibility of my team opening up completely if this stip for the versus challenge gets changed from what I agreed to. So there is that, unfortunately. That you had no intentions of willfully donating anything. Losing 2 fighters that a new team has access to becuase of the roster limit does not acount as trying to help out a new team. Sorry dude. I guess if it happens again, be more clear with your intentions (i.e. "I'll donate someone good, once I see my standings", etc, vs "I probably won't be donating anything. Oh yeah, roster limist, I'll wait til standings are posted". Which, in context, reads as though you are waiting until standings are posted to decide who you are dropping to adhere to roster limits, not who you are willing to donate to help out) I disagree. I've been having/forced to downsize for nearly 4 straight seasons now. Whether it's been from member pressure, donation pressure or whatever... As a result of that, in part, I'm now, again, faced with being the last place team in the league. Giving my team a season assessment before committing to specific fighters that I'd be dropping/donating is more than fair considering the position I'm in. I shouldn't be penalized/exempt from this for simply not revealing who I would be putting up since none of this would've transpired until the season was over anyways. It's not my fault Lanterns decided he couldn't wait. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 9, 2017 13:28:46 GMT -5
1) You gave no clear indication that you were planning on donating.
2) lol @ "I've been having/forced to downsize for nearly 4 straight seasons now. As a result of that, in part, I'm now, again, faced with being the last place team in the league" Just lol. You constantly say your team is guys you like. That is fine. But the guys you like are not "best of all time" guys, so they bring your team down. If you did not have Bennett, Jardine, Rory MacDonald, or Tweet this season, you would not be in last place. If you did not have D'Alelio or Jason MacDonald, you would be in a GP spot. Your team suffers from size. Being forced to downsize is in your best interest. So to say that argument is hogwash is about the understatement of the century.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 9, 2017 13:52:53 GMT -5
1) You gave no clear indication that you were planning on donating. 2) lol @ "I've been having/forced to downsize for nearly 4 straight seasons now. As a result of that, in part, I'm now, again, faced with being the last place team in the league" Just lol. You constantly say your team is guys you like. That is fine. But the guys you like are not "best of all time" guys, so they bring your team down. If you did not have Bennett, Jardine, Rory MacDonald, or Tweet this season, you would not be in last place. If you did not have D'Alelio or Jason MacDonald, you would be in a GP spot. Your team suffers from size. Being forced to downsize is in your best interest. So to say that argument is hogwash is about the understatement of the century. Again, I disagree. Just because you don't like them, or don't think they are "best of all time", doesn't mean anything dude... As much as you love to think it does. We have folks like Kyra Gracie (for example) here in ManMMA that couldn't even hold a candle to any of those fighters off my team that you mentioned, not to mention that we also have overachieving current/nowadays fighters, if you want to use the "best of all time" measuring stick, that are current champions or contenders... So, no... It's not hogwash at all. It's your opinion... Nothing more. |
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Apr 9, 2017 14:47:54 GMT -5
1) You gave no clear indication that you were planning on donating. 2) lol @ "I've been having/forced to downsize for nearly 4 straight seasons now. As a result of that, in part, I'm now, again, faced with being the last place team in the league" Just lol. You constantly say your team is guys you like. That is fine. But the guys you like are not "best of all time" guys, so they bring your team down. If you did not have Bennett, Jardine, Rory MacDonald, or Tweet this season, you would not be in last place. If you did not have D'Alelio or Jason MacDonald, you would be in a GP spot. Your team suffers from size. Being forced to downsize is in your best interest. So to say that argument is hogwash is about the understatement of the century. Again, I disagree. Just because you don't like them, or don't think they are "best of all time", doesn't mean anything dude... As much as you love to think it does. We have folks like Kyra Gracie (for example) here in ManMMA that couldn't even hold a candle to any of those fighters off my team that you mentioned, not to mention that we also have overachieving current/nowadays fighters, if you want to use the "best of all time" measuring stick, that are current champions or contenders... So, no... It's not hogwash at all. It's your opinion... Nothing more. He's right though, you can't disagree. Those fighter's losses are what brought your team down to last place, if you didn't have those losses, the rest of your teams wins would have been enough to put you in the GP spot. |
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Post by xx - Team GAP on Apr 9, 2017 16:05:43 GMT -5
Honestly... it appears to me that if you have a team full of A rated fighters then you win if they are capped. If you have a team of B or C rated fighters you make the gp. If you have a team full of non rated fighters you will not do well. The less poop fighters you have and even if you have only a small handful of great fighters. Then you will do well as long as you dont have many fighters on your team.
BUT....
This should somehow be changed so that teams who decide to build a larger team... can. And can do well. At least well enough to compete.
BUT.... That has been pooped on when Sandmen said teams will be capped at 16.
Note: poop fighters equal project fighters or fighters who havent been upgraded very much.
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 9, 2017 16:12:03 GMT -5
You left out the part where it's literally physically impossible to have a large team of project fighters, (who by your own definition are below average), and still make the GP. I cannot make project fighters who are averagely-upgraded beat legit fighters who are well-upgraded. If you have a big team, and you are not upgrading 8 project fighters, but you are fine-tuning 1 already legit fighter, I can't help you. No matter what we change. Also, xx - Team GAP, I feel like you should book a season. You have a really good understanding of the things you understand, and a good head on your shoulders, for seeing reason and logic when things make sense. But I feel like since you don't understand the mechanics of booking a season (you would have no reason to, you have not booked a season), and the effects big teams have on the whole league, you say things that you would not believe if you fully understood the impact all of these things have throughout the league. |
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Post by Lord Byron's Conquistadors on Apr 9, 2017 20:55:43 GMT -5
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Apr 9, 2017 21:18:12 GMT -5
When did he do that? If you don't want them I'll take them lol. |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 9, 2017 22:00:57 GMT -5
Again, I disagree. Just because you don't like them, or don't think they are "best of all time", doesn't mean anything dude... As much as you love to think it does. We have folks like Kyra Gracie (for example) here in ManMMA that couldn't even hold a candle to any of those fighters off my team that you mentioned, not to mention that we also have overachieving current/nowadays fighters, if you want to use the "best of all time" measuring stick, that are current champions or contenders... So, no... It's not hogwash at all. It's your opinion... Nothing more. He's right though, you can't disagree. Those fighter's losses are what brought your team down to last place, if you didn't have those losses, the rest of your teams wins would have been enough to put you in the GP spot. Ummm... I think you quoted the wrong post bro. |
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Post by The Texas Rattlesnakes on Apr 9, 2017 22:09:21 GMT -5
He's right though, you can't disagree. Those fighter's losses are what brought your team down to last place, if you didn't have those losses, the rest of your teams wins would have been enough to put you in the GP spot. Ummm... I think you quoted the wrong post bro. No, that was the correct post. I'm saying Justin is right. |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Apr 10, 2017 8:34:46 GMT -5
PROCESSED
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Post by xx - Team GAP on Apr 10, 2017 13:42:50 GMT -5
I cannot make project fighters who are averagely-upgraded beat legit fighters who are well-upgraded. Also, xx - Team GAP, I feel like you should book a season. You have a really good understanding of the things you understand, and a good head on your shoulders, for seeing reason and logic when things make sense. But I feel like since you don't understand the mechanics of booking a season (you would have no reason to, you have not booked a season), and the effects big teams have on the whole league, you say things that you would not believe if you fully understood the impact all of these things have throughout the league. 1. You could make project fighters able to beat legit fighters. If a project fighter were to be given a a b or c rating... and time and effort was put into them. 2. Not sure what you mean exactly by "book a season". Do you mean the scheduling of fights? Or something else? |
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Post by The Rocketmen on Apr 10, 2017 14:08:57 GMT -5
I think guys who have a proper build can beat anyone.
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Have 9 points in celebration of this monumental achievement!