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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Jul 4, 2013 21:30:42 GMT -5
As Cannon touched on, "not many ppl on the site care about their female fighters and would rather upgrade their big name male fighters". And it's true. But why is that? Because when we discussed bringing women into the league, nearly half the members PMed me asking, "do I HAVE TO take a woman, or can I take another guy instead." WMMA is a niche market in MMA, and especially here. The ones that have cared strongly about their women have been upgrading them. The rest could not care less. That is not a biased answer, that is providing you with information you would not have known, as it was before your time.
Everyone in the simulator (male, female, or muffin), have strengths and weaknesses. If you develop them right, you get Sarah Kaufman (lowish rating, so so number of upgrades, Champion performer). If you develop them wrong, you shovel 60 points into them and they barely crack the top 4 (Rousey - power upgrading at its worst example). hey now rousey fights for the belt next now that submission are working she might win! |
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 4, 2013 21:39:15 GMT -5
maybe...hey look, a flying pig!
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Post by xx - Team GAP on Jul 4, 2013 21:45:38 GMT -5
can my muffin fight the flying pig?
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Post by The West Coast Knockouts on Jul 4, 2013 21:46:02 GMT -5
shut the fuck up PHX weput upgrades into our fermale fighter where the rest are neglected your just mad cuz u upped d'alelio the wrong way and she fucking sucks suck it up buttercup everything is fine the way it is I LOL'd so hard when I read the first few words |
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Post by The West Coast Knockouts on Jul 4, 2013 21:57:11 GMT -5
I like Suggestion 2 but tbh the teams who are not looking inot this divsion should start investing more time into their woman fighters lol I will start so too
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Jul 4, 2013 22:49:02 GMT -5
well if its option 2 then I haven't upped the rest of my women fighters and I will just build them into more rouseys with the 15 free points they get also phx ur just estimating the rousey point maybe u should actually calculate them I doubt its 36 but I don't like the idea of getting 15 free point with 15 free point the women fighter in danger would never be effective thus giving phx his 8 women an advantage
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Jul 4, 2013 22:59:31 GMT -5
itll make fighter in danger list useless and instead of weening out the neglected fighters
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 4, 2013 23:03:31 GMT -5
can my muffin fight the flying pig? Yes. |
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Jul 4, 2013 23:06:27 GMT -5
FYI PHX rousey had 31 upgrades, she sucked to begin with worse then tara larosa, ur 18 points into d'alelio she still suckls the way I see it u have 10 ups left for he to still suck if ppl get 15 freee points then I want 15 free upoint that I spent on rousey to use at will on another fighter
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 4, 2013 23:10:23 GMT -5
if ppl get 15 freee points then I want 15 free upoint that I spent on rousey to use at will on another fighter As unintelligible as this mess is, it's my problem with handing out free points too. Some people CHOSE to spend their points on thier women, while during that time others ignored their women to upgrade men. That is why we have so many different male champions. To hand those teams 15 free points for their women but not compensate those who did NOT neglect their women is absurd. |
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Jul 4, 2013 23:15:30 GMT -5
exactly I neglected my male fighters for rousey thus never winning any belts well other ppl have 10 belts like sandmen who upped his male fighters
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Jul 4, 2013 23:15:45 GMT -5
a) if this was true, she would be winning. Not true. Take a look at Coenen, Davis, Fujii, Nakai. They don't win every fight either. She's had 1 fight at her current build, and as you said yourself, wait and see what the next fight brings before I start changing stuff up. I planned to anyways, but for you to come out and say that shit above is just more of your BS trolling and not helping this at all. b) she was created using the exact same standardized, streamlined format as every other woman ever made on this site. You wanted me to watch one of her fights and I refused because it would bias her build - that is, and has been true, of every single woman created here. Which is complete bullshit, a cop out and a pitiful attempt at absolving yourself of any fault in the bad builds, when they happen... But the funny thing is that it totally absolves you from any credit in the good builds too, yet you'll take the credit for the good ones and tout yourself as some sort of MMA genius... :  It's ridiculous. Especially when you have seen fighters like Carano, Cyborg, Kaufman & Davis before, yet you claim it's bias to look at other fighters that you haven't seen fight before?! Seriously? Do you even think before you speak? If anything, it's bias not to watch the fights since you have seen those other fighters and have opinions about those fighters and their styles already. I can't believe you're so oblivious to that fact. I had no intentions of replying to this suggestion, but that clarification needed to be made. No clarification needed to be made at all. What I said was fact. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 4, 2013 23:19:30 GMT -5
Fact: Ferocity asked you questions; you are ignoring her to argue about the sim program you have never touched with the simmer who has been using it for almost 2 years.
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Jul 4, 2013 23:19:49 GMT -5
a) if this was true, she would be winning. Not true. Take a look at Coenen, Davis, Fujii, Nakai. They don't win every fight either. She's had 1 fight at her current build, and as you said yourself, wait and see what the next fight brings before I start changing stuff up. I planned to anyways, but for you to come out and say that shit above is just more of your BS trolling and not helping this at all. b) she was created using the exact same standardized, streamlined format as every other woman ever made on this site. You wanted me to watch one of her fights and I refused because it would bias her build - that is, and has been true, of every single woman created here. Which is complete bullshit, a cop out and a pitiful attempt at absolving yourself of any fault in the bad builds, when they happen... But the funny thing is that it totally absolves you from any credit in the good builds too, yet you'll take the credit for the good ones and tout yourself as some sort of MMA genius... : It's ridiculous. Especially when you have seen fighters like Carano, Cyborg, Kaufman & Davis before, yet you claim it's bias to look at other fighters that you haven't seen fight before?! Seriously? Do you even think before you speak? If anything, it's bias not to watch the fights since you have seen those other fighters and have opinions about those fighters and their styles already. I can't believe you're so oblivious to that fact. I had no intentions of replying to this suggestion, but that clarification needed to be made. No clarification needed to be made at all. What I said was fact. rousey had no stand up so she lost her second fight to larosa she was mostly a ground fighter her submission where nearly maxed also submission weren't as effective until the new tweak so I added more ground to her game and stamina ko resistance and toughness perks but yeah her build was alright but would she lose to larosa irl prolly not but I complained abit like u and finally did something about it I upgraded the shit outta her like ur doing d'alelio so why the whyne fest would you like cheese with that whyne |
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Post by The Sandmen on Jul 4, 2013 23:26:41 GMT -5
We're still moving away from the point I agree with - people need to upgrade their women. Someone already mentioned here they would start doing that, and that's great. Maybe just having this discussed publicly is enough of an eye-opener to how close people are to that top 3-4 spot. That's why I posted the "rankings based on overalls" - they are not that far apart! Coenen is damn close, Yamanaka has a great build (that is developing pretty well), and I'm working on all of my women at once, so they will be moving up as a group, rather than one individual. Maybe Phoenix just having the balls to suggest something was enough to fix the problem?
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x8 
It's ridiculous. Especially when you have seen fighters like Carano, Cyborg, Kaufman & Davis before, yet you claim it's bias to look at other fighters that you haven't seen fight before?! Seriously? Do you even think before you speak? If anything, it's bias not to watch the fights since you have seen those other fighters and have opinions about those fighters and their styles already. I can't believe you're so oblivious to that fact. 
