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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on May 24, 2014 21:06:38 GMT -5
There's a bit of a debate about capped fighters. I know there's a majority of you that don't have these fighters, but it doesn't make this any less relevant... so here's the skinny... Capped fighter can't evolve past where they are currently at present because of the cap... But why? they're no less than any other fighter on the site. Therefore they are at a disadvantage to the rest of the league, when they're losing more than they're winning. What I'm proposing here is that capped fighters be allowed to re-distribute their attribute points, meaning they'll be able pull points out of one attributes and allocate them to another without penalty; kind of a perk for being the top of the league in terms of overall, but not necessarily top of the league in terms of being the best fighters. We see this with Rousey & D'Alelio currently with the women's division. This would make it so that even capped fighters can continue to improve without going over the cap but also allows them to keep up with the rest division at large. I think this would help with not only folks experience of having fun with the league but also aid in creating better competition through all the divisions while allowing even capped fighters to continue to grow.
That said, these are the vote options.
Yes - Allow capped fighter to reallocate points to fine tune their skills and allow them to progress forward even though they're capped.
No - They're capped. Period.
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Post by The Sandmen on May 24, 2014 21:49:33 GMT -5
Umm, if I understand this correctly, this involves far too much of me going into fighters attributes and tickering with them. I do not want this much information from fellow fighters when I am developing my own.
Since I am unwilling to do what is proposed here for fear it will give me an unfair advantage (or open the door to accusations of such), we'll have to discuss this farther and nullify the current poll, regardless of outcome.
I have no problems with the current system of delete a point add a point, as I don't have to see as much information to make that tweak. Plus there is a trade-off. A con, if you will, in that you pay a point for that re-distribution. This system, if I understand it correctly, has no "trade-off" cost.
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Post by xx - Team GAP on May 24, 2014 21:53:27 GMT -5
i agree that capped fighters should be able to fine tune... but it should come with a drawback... note my idea to drop a point in order to rebuild your fighter back up... i don't agree to just allowing a fighter to swap at no cost or no drawback.
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Post by The Sandmen on May 24, 2014 21:54:32 GMT -5
i agree that capped fighters should be able to fine tune... but it should come with a drawback... note my idea to drop a point in order to rebuild your fighter back up... i don't agree to just allowing a fighter to swap at no cost or no drawback. Yes, this is what we have now and I really like this. If the proposed change in this poll is to make free-shifting of attributes any time you want, then I am against that. |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on May 24, 2014 22:12:06 GMT -5
i agree that capped fighters should be able to fine tune... but it should come with a drawback... note my idea to drop a point in order to rebuild your fighter back up... i don't agree to just allowing a fighter to swap at no cost or no drawback. Yes, this is what we have now and I really like this. If the proposed change in this poll is to make free-shifting of attributes any time you want, then I am against that. I disagree and I honestly don't see why... They're capped. They can't get any better overall-wise, why would they need a drawback? If you're searching for a drawback though, they've already got the drawback of not being able to go beyond where they are, re-allocating points is just working within their confines. |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2014 22:45:24 GMT -5
I say no. Once you place the attributes, they are locked in. If you didn't put them in the right spot the first time, then that is your fault.
I vote if you want to move 1 attribute from 1 spot to the other, you need to give up 2 other attributes from the category.
So say
Punches: 10
Kicks: 10
I want to move 1 from punches to kicks, it becomes
Punches: 7
Kicks: 11
Anything else, no, go fuck yourself
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Post by xx - Team GAP on May 24, 2014 23:25:10 GMT -5
that idea doesn't make sense cause then the fighter would be 1 point under cap. my idea makes sure that everything is even and it keeps balance as well as giving the ability to fix faults with a drawback (you need to re put points into your fighter) This poll i don't think was presented right. The choices should be to offer a -1 from a skill and then re-allocate, or re-allocate with no drawback, or make it so nobody can switch stats up once your capped, or other solution. then lets see what people think.
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Post by The Sandmen on May 24, 2014 23:28:28 GMT -5
Yeah, cor's thing is just...what? But I agree with GAP. Except I also believe in the old saying, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. And I don't think it's broken anymore. I really think what we have in place is perfect. It also forces people to fine-tune fighters, instead of do huge, dramatic overhauls that could mess up capped fighters even more.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on May 25, 2014 0:53:06 GMT -5
Yeah, cor's thing is just...what? But I agree with GAP. Except I also believe in the old saying, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. And I don't think it's broken anymore. I really think what we have in place is perfect. It also forces people to fine-tune fighters, instead of do huge, dramatic overhauls that could mess up capped fighters even more. lol That's bullshit... You 'fix' things and change things constantly that don't need fixinng... so don't sit there and say you follow the 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' adage, cuz you don't. To say you do is a joke and a complete waste of time. The reason I brought this up is that most of us with capped fighters have already invested upscale of 40-50+ points into these fighters already, so the investment into the fighter has already been put in. Now, we want the best of the best in this league, do we not? If these fighters are capped, then should they not be allowed to be at their best within the confines of being capped while the other fighters around them are being upgraded? I say yes. |
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Post by Lord Byron's Conquistadors on May 25, 2014 1:01:07 GMT -5
whats this now?
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on May 25, 2014 1:07:58 GMT -5
It's a poll/suggestion  lol |
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Post by Lord Byron's Conquistadors on May 25, 2014 1:09:14 GMT -5
i know man i don get it. hows it different than what sandmen and gap are doin now???
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on May 25, 2014 1:24:40 GMT -5
i know man i don get it. hows it different than what sandmen and gap are doin now??? The difference is that what Sandmen/GAP are saying is that you should drop points that you've already invested in a fighter and then spend more points to upgrade a different stat. I'm saying that we've already spent the points and once the fighters are capped, we should be able to tweak them to make them the best the can be without penalty because we've already invested 40-50+ points into said fighter and it's a point of fine tuning the fighter, not upgrading. |
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Post by Lord Byron's Conquistadors on May 25, 2014 1:32:47 GMT -5
oh. no i like there thing better. if you got capped guys you got the points to spend to upgrade them that much. plus i don get to move my points around my fighters for free shouldnt be no different for guys with capped guys.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on May 25, 2014 1:58:13 GMT -5
oh. no i like there thing better. if you got capped guys you got the points to spend to upgrade them that much. plus i don get to move my points around my fighters for free shouldnt be no different for guys with capped guys. That's a misconception Byron... Having a capped fighter doesn't mean you have points to spare, especially if you traded for the capped fighter. Also, it doesn't mean you have the points to spare now... With all the restrictions that have been placed on me due to my activity, despite my own efforts to counter that by increasing my roster, I still don't have the points to do what I'd like to with my team... Then you look at a team like Sandman's and he has no capped fighters, he's one of the league's best teams and it's normal for him to be floating upscale of 20 points in his bank.... Yet no one targets him for anything. |
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lol
Have 9 points in celebration of this monumental achievement!