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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Apr 2, 2017 4:36:52 GMT -5
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 2, 2017 4:37:26 GMT -5
Here's what I need you clowns to do then. Both of you agree on the details (since right now all you agreed on is "my team vs. your team" and "loser loses their whole team". Give me the details and I will see after I get everything if I am comfortable simming it. Because right now...it seems stupid and poorly thought-out. Then you're either an idiot or you just don't read Justin... |
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 2, 2017 4:38:02 GMT -5
Yes, Kruzey, I can read. The difference is, unlike you, I actually think things through. So here are a few questions your all-talk, no-thought challenge has not answered. Just a few. Off the top of my head.
1) Who chooses the fights?
2) Does the loser have to leave ManMMA, or can they re-draft a new team?
3) Can they participate in the draft?
4) Can they participate in the GP?
5) Who is fighting? How many fights?
6) Does the team get to keep their team name?
7) Can the losing team re-acquire their old fighters? If so, when? Any time?
8) Can you guys keep trolling each other afterwards if the loser stays?
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 2, 2017 4:51:27 GMT -5
Yes, Kruzey, I can read. The difference is, unlike you, I actually think things through, so here are a few questions you have not answered. 1) Who chooses the fights? 2) Does the loser have to leave ManMMA, or can they re-draft a new team? 3) Can they participate in the draft? 4) Can they participate in the GP? 5) Who is fighting? How many fights? 6) Does the team get to keep their team name? 7) Can the losing team re-acquire their old fighters? If so, when? Any time? 8) Can you guys keep trolling each other afterwards if the loser stays? Now these are great questions  1) GP format where we choose the fighters 2) I'd be open to either 3) A new team should be able to participate in the draft if we go that route 4) Of course... we're at this point now... Be stupid to say no. 5) I'd say all 1 vs. 1 down the line until you can't... has to be a team effort IMO 6) No. 7) I don't see a problem there. It's a new team... let them pick who they want. 8) No. Trash talk and banter is fine... No trolling. |
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Apr 2, 2017 4:58:17 GMT -5
Yes, Kruzey, I can read. The difference is, unlike you, I actually think things through. So here are a few questions your all-talk, no-thought challenge has not answered. Just a few. Off the top of my head. 1) Who chooses the fights? gp style champs and injured ppl allowed to fight 2) Does the loser have to leave ManMMA, or can they re-draft a new team? draft or leave 3) Can they participate in the draft? yes 4) Can they participate in the GP? yes i say keep the team till after gp until we figgure out #9 5) Who is fighting? How many fights? hw,mw,ow,fw,woman 6) Does the team get to keep their team name?yes 7) Can the losing team re-acquire their old fighters? If so, when? Any time? anyone but sarah d'alelio lol 8) Can you guys keep trolling each other afterwards if the loser stays? yes trolling allowed.. 9- where do fighter go free agency or other team has not been discussed at this time. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 2, 2017 5:07:35 GMT -5
Here's my counter-offer, as site administrator. 1 & 5) What about 10 fights, you each choose 2 per weight class, then I randomize the matchups from there. 2) I would prefer they stay. 3)  6) If the loser stays, they keep their team name. Changing team names is a GIANT pain in the ass, and I vowed never to allow it again after I realized how big of a pain it was after Mike did it that one time. The only exceptions we have had since are teams that quit for a while, then signed back up as a new team. Even then, it made a big mess. If the member is not leaving, but just taking a team of different fighters, then I want them to keep their team name. 8) Trash talk about beating the other in this challenge? Doesn't that just make the whole thing worse? I also propose these: - losing team's fighters go into the draft - losing team cannot draft any of their own fighters in the first round of the draft, but can draft their fighters in subsequent rounds. - depending on the look and make-up of the draft, Justin reserves the right to allow the losing team to have an additional draft pick at the very end of each round. We will see. - the losing team will then re-flesh out his team at the end of the draft with available fighters. - the losing team IS eligible for charity trades if necessary to re-establish itself. edit to Cannon's #9 - Draft. NOT to the other team. |
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Apr 2, 2017 5:13:48 GMT -5
i dunno 10s a little too much im down for 5 v 5 hw,ow,mw,lw,f
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 2, 2017 5:23:11 GMT -5
I'm going to add some more administrative stipulations.
- If a flash "small cut" stoppage comes about somewhere stupid (chin, cheek, kneecap), I, in my sole discretion, have the right to rematch the fight with no whining or bitching or carrying on from either of you. The rematch is sucked up and accepted, no additional discussion. I do not want someone losing their team due to a shitty cut.
- If 2 members object to this challenge, it is cancelled.
- IF i agree to sim the challenge, I can cancel that at any time with or without explanation, and without ridicule towards myself or your opponents.
- Since you both dabble in alchohol, I am also adding that you both have to agree to this challenge and the eventually-finalized stipulations twice, with the second accept coming more than 24 hours after the first. No "I was drunk/high when I accepted" crap.
(more coming, I'm sure, but its 6:30am and I want to go to bed). I will leave that there for further discussion amongst yourselves.
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 2, 2017 5:33:49 GMT -5
Here's my counter-offer, as site administrator. 1 & 5) What about 10 fights, you each choose 2 per weight class, then I randomize the matchups from there. 2) I would prefer they stay. 3) 6) If the loser stays, they keep their team name. Changing team names is a GIANT pain in the ass, and I vowed never to allow it again after I realized how big of a pain it was after Mike did it that one time. The only exceptions we have had since are teams that quit for a while, then signed back up as a new team. Even then, it made a big mess. If the member is not leaving, but just taking a team of different fighters, then I want them to keep their team name. 8) Trash talk about beating the other in this challenge? Doesn't that just make the whole thing worse? I also propose these: - losing team's fighters go into the draft - losing team cannot draft any of their own fighters in the first round of the draft, but can draft their fighters in subsequent rounds.- depending on the look and make-up of the draft, Justin reserves the right to allow the losing team to have an additional draft pick at the very end of each round. We will see. - the losing team will then re-flesh out his team at the end of the draft with available fighters. - the losing team IS eligible for charity trades if necessary to re-establish itself. edit to Cannon's #9 - Draft. NOT to the other team. I agree with all but the bolded point. |
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Post by xx - Camp Cannon on Apr 2, 2017 5:37:58 GMT -5
if it takes 10 to get er done then stop applying the cream cruzey boy
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 2, 2017 5:37:59 GMT -5
- losing team cannot draft any of their own fighters in the first round of the draft, but can draft their fighters in subsequent rounds.I agree with all but the bolded point. Then the losing team's draft pick is moved to the end of the first round. I want every ManMMA team to have a shot at the losing teams fighters, since they all had to wait for this event to be simmed and likely none of their fighters will be on the card. It's only fair. |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 2, 2017 5:42:41 GMT -5
- losing team cannot draft any of their own fighters in the first round of the draft, but can draft their fighters in subsequent rounds.I agree with all but the bolded point. Then the losing team's draft pick is moved to the end of the first round. I want every ManMMA team to have a shot at the losing teams fighters, since they all had to wait for this event to be simmed and likely none of their fighters will be on the card. It's only fair. Yes, but you're also talking to the current last place team... No. Just no... IF I lose, I should atill be eligible for the 1st overall pick... And pick whoever I want... That's not unfair at all. |
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 2, 2017 5:47:01 GMT -5
Then the losing team's draft pick is moved to the end of the first round. I want every ManMMA team to have a shot at the losing teams fighters, since they all had to wait for this event to be simmed and likely none of their fighters will be on the card. It's only fair. Yes, but you're also talking to the current last place team... No. Just no... IF I lose, I should atill be eligible for the 1st overall pick... That's not unfair at all. You can still take the 1st overall pick, but not a fighter from your team. If the league has to sit through the challenge, the league gets to benefit in SOME way. Having a chance to draft the losers fighters is that way. |
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Post by xx - Former Phoenix Fight Club on Apr 2, 2017 5:49:33 GMT -5
Yes, but you're also talking to the current last place team... No. Just no... IF I lose, I should atill be eligible for the 1st overall pick... That's not unfair at all. You can still take the 1st overall pick, but not a fighter from your team. If the league has to sit through the challenge, the league gets to benefit in SOME way. Having a chance to draft the losers fighters is that way. They'll still benefit either way the challenge goes... You're being ridiculous now |
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Post by The Sandmen on Apr 2, 2017 5:52:51 GMT -5
League needs first shot at your team.
ALSO, and more importantly, since your team is in last place and Cannon's is not, it is also an inherent advantage you have over him. If you lose, you get first pick at having any fighter you want back from your team. If he loses, he gets about 8th pick to get one of his fighters back. So you would get your first choice from your former-team, and he would get his 8th choice. That is the difference between a game-changer, and a depth fighter. That gives him WAY more to lose than you. Hardly fair. Deal-breakingly unfair, in fact.
It's a non-negotiable stipulation.
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x8 
Have 9 points in celebration of this monumental achievement!